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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26887884 - 08/19/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Reddit had a tried and true RC vendors list that was constantly updated, now prohibited.

That got me high a bunch of times!


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: Asante]
    #26887888 - 08/19/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yep, now it's online hidden in the markets somewhere, but at least it's there. Not sure of the reliability. I haven't done the DNM's in a while. I miss SI, *SIGH*.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: gopher]
    #26887892 - 08/19/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If down votes are so caustic then why is the YouTube community not just destroyed by them? Not that it's a wonderful community, it's mostly very sparse pockets of decent fanbases but why aren't those ecosystems destroyed by downvotes? People are largely scared to bother because they either comment because they're triggered or they get the feel-bads. Those are probably a lot of the same folks as on Reddit. Like honestly how many YouTube comments have downvotes? 0.0001%? I think I've seen two. Why is that? It's because Reddit sucks. The format is trash, it looks like garbage and operates like garbage.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26887910 - 08/19/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If down votes are so caustic then why is the YouTube community not just destroyed by them?




Have you read any youtube comments? The place is a lopsidedly lobotomized dumpster fire.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: Asante]
    #26887913 - 08/19/20 08:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I acknowledged that, what I mean is why aren't downvotes the cause of the dumpster fire? It's nonexistent, the downvotes. It's basically unused.

And if you frequent the right channels it tends to be pretty good actually. Kind of like here actually, sometimes even a little friendlier


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26887934 - 08/19/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, YouTube easily has one of the worst comment sections on the web. There may be areas where you can find some decent stuff, but by and large it is garbage.

A lot of content specific sub reddits are some of the best forums on the web. The main problem being that Reddit doesn't do a good job of long term storage of information. Reddit was designed to have a large turn over of content, and the voting system is critical to that process. Dedicated forums like this one still have the advantage there, and that's why you see good ongoing threads that evolve and grow information. Meanwhile, there's YouTube, where the comments have little bearing on anything. They simply serve the purpose of trolling in most cases.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: christopera]
    #26888908 - 08/19/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

if anyone wants some guaranteed downvotes, head over to r/keto and mention something about "Dirty Keto"

I saw someone do that once and he got downvoted into oblivion and people were pretty close to giving him death threats

I simply asks what was wrong with dirty keto under his comment, and then people started downvoting me

one guy was nice enough to answer me and he said it was gatekeeping, but I disagree and think if someone was still eating processed keto junk foods you could call it dirty keto

every subreddit has its own hive mind, and I totally dont sync with the r/keto hivemind, I have also had other problems there, even with the mods


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: gopher]
    #26888981 - 08/19/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Everybody that has spent on time on reddit has a few shitty experiences. My account is 12 years old. I've been booted off of numerous subs, generally just because a mod is on a power trip. Sure, I've been out of line a few times, but for the most part I try to keep it civil.

The one key to getting on there is to be natural, don't force comments, if you have nothing to say, don't say anything. When you get in a habit of trying to farm karma you are asking for down votes.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: christopera]
    #26888983 - 08/19/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Also, Reddit is garbage now, and it has been for about three years. It's actually what drove me to this site, well that and mushrooms.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: christopera]
    #26889023 - 08/19/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Karma Farm, hmmm...FarmaKarma?


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: gopher]
    #26889067 - 08/19/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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gopher said:
if anyone wants some guaranteed downvotes, head over to r/keto and mention something about "Dirty Keto"

I saw someone do that once and he got downvoted into oblivion and people were pretty close to giving him death threats

I simply asks what was wrong with dirty keto under his comment, and then people started downvoting me

one guy was nice enough to answer me and he said it was gatekeeping, but I disagree and think if someone was still eating processed keto junk foods you could call it dirty keto

every subreddit has its own hive mind, and I totally dont sync with the r/keto hivemind, I have also had other problems there, even with the mods



That's the biggest issue I have with that site and others.

Instead of explaining why "we don't do that here" people attempt to drown the comments that go against the grain.

It's a short sweet dopamine boost that comes with dominating others.

People like to think they're noble, thoughtful, and open minded. But they're often not.


And reddit is structured to encourage it.

Back to why downvoting is less an issue on YouTube. A video that gets mass hate and gets mass down votes is also getting massive activity. So the algorithm is more likely to recommend it.

The default sorting feature on reddit is by "hot" iirc. Comments and posts that get alot of activity.

A mass downvoted comment isn't likely to be the top but it will be up there. Your single upvote is not going to counter 1000 downvotes but it will contribute to making it 2000 downvotes. Participation that matters with 0 effort. Yipee


Meanwhile on YouTube downvotes are hidden and have been for years. I don't even think it brings down the upvote count anymore. Meaning you're not rewarded for downvoting, at all. But then that's also why the comment section can be so nasty. Twats think their half cocked opinion matters and they need to cram it somewhere.

But 99% of people don't want to bother with that much so they just upvote someone who expresses their vitriol for them.




There's a psychological issue at play and it's called negativity bias.

Let's see...


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26889086 - 08/19/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



Yeah. Negativity bias by a professional reddit dramator.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26889103 - 08/19/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Prize for triple posting. If this were reddit I'd be downvoted for it.


I like reason 1. For drama obsession because I think it's the primary motivator on the internet. Distant drama distracts people from their own problems. I've noticed alot of people impassioned by political views and very aggressive with them are trying to avoid their own problems.


There was someone in a reddit community I deeply disliked who was rewarded for scathing dominating one liners to shut down people that went against popular opinion.

Wasn't stalking, just hung out in the community long enough to learn that she's obese and can't stop eating and feels powerless in her every day life.

I didn't feel good with that realization but it does make me mad people feign confidence and superiority without having the balls to face themselves. Like I've seen her argue against the idea of food addiction and that some food is inately bad and eating it regularly is not good for you.

Bro that shits sad. And it's sadder that she's being rewarded for her behavior.



Speaking of rewarding shitty behavior the now defunct eating disorder and shoplifting subs are good examples. Encouraging people to starve themselves and steal shit for giggles is objectively not good but the subs ruthlessly extinguished criticism.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: gopher]
    #26985805 - 10/14/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Dumb asses on Reddit use the downvote and upvote thing incorrectly.

There's usually some sort of unspoken status quo that every sub has on reddit and if you say 1 little thing that goes against it, you will get downvoted to hell and everyone will berate you and Chase you away.

People on Reddit are uneducated and toxic. If you're looking for meaningful intellectual or philosophical discussion, reddit is not the place for you. So many times I made posts that were so we'll thought out and researched expecting to get a good discussion but only 1 or 2 people respond to the real intellectual ones.

I think a comment should be required for a downvote AND upvote.

Shroomery should NEVER have this type of "like" "dislike" system.

After having more than 10k karma and absolutely no meaningful or enriching discussion on reddit, I deleted my account. I don't have time for people's toxic argumentative bullshit.

One night I was planning a mushroom trip but I had to postpone it because some idiot on reddit started an argument with me and it put me in a bad mood. I tried so hard to be the better person but people on Reddit just love to argue and start bullshit because they can't think critically. I don't have time for that fucking bullshit especially if it is going to cause me to have to postpone a trip. Fuck that I don't have time for that.

Reddit is good if you have a simple basic question that requires a quick response. Other than that, reddit should die.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #26985949 - 10/14/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I had always wished there was a -1 button next to the +1 button on this site


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: trees]
    #26986023 - 10/14/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Usually if you say something contrary to the subreddits belief you’ll get downvoted. Reddit is full of very challenged people


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: trees]
    #26986120 - 10/14/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I had always wished there was a -1 button next to the +1 button on this site



Me too.


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26986169 - 10/14/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I downvoted this thread :house:


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: gopher]
    #26986171 - 10/14/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

why do you give a fuck if someone downvotes you?


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Re: Down Voting is a pretty shitty reddit feature [Re: Saul Ptamets]
    #26986740 - 10/15/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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why do you give a fuck if someone downvotes you?



Exactly!:rolleyes:


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