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    #26885406 - 08/17/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I have 3 mexicube and 3 PE BRF jars almost fully colonized.

I was wondering if I could spawn each into their own shoebox and do this shoebox TEK Here
Would that tek work if I spawned to coir/verm, and should I case?

Aside from a SGFC, what else could i do with limited spawn?


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26886236 - 08/18/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I would use three cakes per shoebox


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26886251 - 08/18/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fantastic! Thank you again!

I plan on following that Stupid Simple TEK but using coir/verm instead of grain since these are BRF jars.

Should I still get a decent yield?


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26889076 - 08/19/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)




So here is my setup so far. Did not dunk cakes, shredded them straight into the tote w/ substrate and followed the tek. Obviously my liner looks a little iffy and saggy but I don't think it's hateful for a first go. Any tips?

I'm hoping that the plastic bag is thin enough for light to penetrate it since the holes aren't that big??


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26889097 - 08/19/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Looks ok.  Can't tell how level the surface is but looks good.  Every time I've done cakes to bulk I've gotten pretty good yields.  Waaaaay better than fruiting cakes in a HC.  Best of luck.  Look forward to seeing the fruits of your labor.:thumbup:


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26890189 - 08/20/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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alaskappalachian said:
Looks ok.  Can't tell how level the surface is but looks good.  Every time I've done cakes to bulk I've gotten pretty good yields.  Waaaaay better than fruiting cakes in a HC.  Best of luck.  Look forward to seeing the fruits of your labor.:thumbup:




Thank you for the feedback I am excited.


Now I know some of you (if not all of you) will laugh at this but I really don't care, I did too honestly. My situation is a little bit different, I'm very limited on space for these (discreetly) and I need to be able to conceal these shoeboxes. Since I'm using this grocery bag I figured the best way to conceal it would be almost in plain site but camoflouged by other bags LOL

It's in a small closet, which has a fluorescent light. I figured I would just use that as its light source, I'm just hoping that the light will penetrate the bag enough to trigger the pinning process, and I'm mainly concerned about my concealment idea as far as weather or not I'm blocking off more light or FAE. I don't see how it could, the liner is covering the substrate and the grocery bag is covering the entire tote. It looks breathable, I can definitely smell it when I sniff the top of the bag so I'm assuming it has sufficient FAE.

anyway, here's the setup lol.

Please, if this is going to fuck anything up, let me know..


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26891656 - 08/21/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm assuming my setup isn't going to fail (even if its comical) considering I haven't been criticized yet.

lol any takers? Or will it be fine how it is?


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26891777 - 08/21/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Even with a great setup it can fail, so I wouldn't assume lest you get disappointed. You're learning how to give the myc what it needs to grow and thrive. It might take a little while to get the hang of it. But even with the failure lost time and effort etc it's worth it. Looking forward to seeing how your grow goes :thumbup:


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: magoogle]
    #26891819 - 08/21/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think it will work just fine! This is my little bag boy as of 5 minutes ago and he is doing great. I put like 7 holes for FAE and gets 6500k light. Only used a single 1/2 pint cake.



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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: lookintolearn]
    #26892131 - 08/21/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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magoogle said:
Even with a great setup it can fail, so I wouldn't assume lest you get disappointed. You're learning how to give the myc what it needs to grow and thrive. It might take a little while to get the hang of it. But even with the failure lost time and effort etc it's worth it. Looking forward to seeing how your grow goes :thumbup:




This is true. Even when I fail I don't consider it a waste of time unless I do the same thing over again which made me fail.

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I think it will work just fine! This is my little bag boy as of 5 minutes ago and he is doing great. I put like 7 holes for FAE and gets 6500k light. Only used a single 1/2 pint cake.







This is awesome! Congrats! I've done a few cakes in a SGFC before. I have more than 7 holes in the bag that covers my shoebox but that's just because it consists of 7 3 1/2 pint jars worth of spawn so I figured the more FAE the better so long as it isn't completely open.

Like I said, I am just using the closet fluorescent light as its light source and I am pretty much just turning it on and off at the same time the sun comes up and goes down.

It hasn't been in fruiting long at all and it's amazing how quickly the myc is taking over the substrate! (Hoping this is a good sign of strong myc)


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26892294 - 08/21/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks! It was a little experiment that is turning out great so far :laugh:

Yeah I think that shoebox should get plenty of good little guys with 7 1/2 cakes. Hell I even messed up a few weeks ago and spawned 10 1/2 pints to a 66 qt mono (like a 1:4, 1:5 ratio oof) and it's colonized probably the best out of all tubs. Granted, still no pins yet but thats okay haha.

And get yourself a timer for the light! Helps a bunch when I forget to turn it off or I have to work. It's like 10 bucks for two on amazon :smile:


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: lookintolearn]
    #26893321 - 08/22/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

oh wow I didn't realize until now that I said I have 7 1/2 pints in this. I was confusing that with my other Project. This shoebox only consists of 3 1/2 pint jars. I believe I only used about 4-6 cups of substrate.

It would be nice to get a 1/4 - 1/2 oz dry out of it though.
I definitely should get a timer though you're right.

I do need advice on how to tell when the substrate is getting dehydrated during this particular tek. I can see through the holes on the bag, but I can't tell if the substrate is getting dry at all yet.

Is it advisable to take off the bag every now and then to get a proper view of what's going on? Especially if for some reason at some point I have to mist obviously.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26896454 - 08/24/20 06:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Still hoping to get some advice on misting here. Sorry to bump. Looks like some of the top of the substrate is lightening in color as the myc is slowly taking over. Today is day 5 since birthing, I haven't seen much of a change in growth in the past 48 hours as I did during the first 48-72 hours. I hope it isn't stalling for any reason. Temperature is fine day and night. usually in light for 12 hours. 7 to 7.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26897160 - 08/24/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey buddy you can definitely take the bag off to check it won't hurt anything and as far as misting goes check your coir, if it's looking light brown and no mini beads on the surface I'd give it a decent misting just till you see some beads again so it doesn't dry out to much. And by beads like really small ones across the surface.

Misting is hard to get down i'm currently working on dialing in better myself but that's what i've learned over the last couple days of trying to get mine better. I mist my mini at least once a day because it doesn't have much of it's own microclimate but as far as bigger monotubs it's similar but usually less misting and more of set it up for success and wait. (which i've also been having problems with because i'm impatient but thats on me lol)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053

This might help a little it's what i've been trying to get down pat.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: lookintolearn]
    #26897267 - 08/24/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you so much for that reply brother, I truly appreciate it. I did take the bag off today to take a peak and it looks like it's slowly getting towards the dry side but not quite yet dry. The weight is hard to tell since it's such a small container and I can't really remember the weight it had when I first started it. I'm sure some moisture has been lost in the past week, even if it isn't significant. I also know that evaporation and light are what trigger pinning, so I'm wondering if it's a good idea to wait for it to almost get dry and then mist decently with tiny beads as you mentioned. I always used to spray at least a foot about my cakes in my SGFC's and let the mist gently fall onto the surface rather than directly spraying/drenching the substrate that has pre-stages of primordia/hyphae knots.

While taking a peak today, I did notice some of the myc is fuzzy. Doesn't this mean a lack of FAE? (Need to add more holes?) Is it trying to tell me that it needs more gas exchange? Or is this normal behavior?
Here are a few pics of the substrate. I know it isn't easy to judge by pictures like these but it's the best I have. In my opinion, the surface looks slightly dry. Mainly just the coco fibers that linger on the top though. However, I'm sure if they had more moisture, they could be colonized faster (if my knowledge is correct on that.)



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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26897297 - 08/24/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Anytime man, we are here to learn together :thumbup: It does look a tad dry I would totally give a light misting to it just till you see those beads. Since it's more out in the open it will dry up more but should be all good. My little mono is already pinning pretty good again after first harvest.

And yeah the foot or two away is perfect distance. I noticed that smaller containers are quite a bit harder to dial in but a light misting once a day on mine has done wonders :smile:

And aerial mycellium is generally from a lack of FAE but it doesn't look bad in my opinion. I see those tiny knots coming looks like it's gonna be a good one!


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: lookintolearn]
    #26897357 - 08/24/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome man I am so excited and grateful for everybody's help and knowledge on here.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26898229 - 08/25/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just gave an extremely light misting this morning about a foot above from the box.. Tiny beads of water are now visible on the surface and some of the coir looks more hydrated so that's good. I have a feeling the evaporation is really going to trigger the pins, even if it needs another misting before that time comes.

I would hope to see some more signs of growth by the weekend. It would be nice to see pins by then as that's getting close to the week and half mark since they were birthed. 

The PE's that I have are almost done colonizing. 2 of the 3 jars are ready but the 3rd jar still has a tiny patch to cover on the bottom of the jar, so I'm just kind of waiting it out. This is my favorite cubensis! I really hope I can get a decent yield out of everything.



EDIT: I've checked on the tub periodically today after misting and ended up having to do 2 more light and gentle misting as each time I would look in the tub, all of the little water beads were completely gone and the surface started looking dry again already. ( As I said, I did a VERY light mist each of these times.) I did however notice now there is some slight bruising on a lump of myc which is amazing considering how gentle i misted and how high up I misted each time.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26899210 - 08/25/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

New update, I know I just edited this not long ago but I found something concerning that I didn't notice earlier. It looks similar to cobweb to me but I need some more opinions to be sure. Tub smells like straight up mushies but the corner has some very thin cottony weblike looking growth. Here are some pics:



And here are the PE's that I birthed just now. I hope things goes well with these guys. I'm very excited! My goal is to get even just a small canopy. I"m not expecting anything large or spectacular by any means, but I really would like to get a nice small to medium sized canopy with at least an oz or more DRY between both shoeboxes after all flushes when all said and done.

Does this goal seem realistic for a MS BRF and coir grow?



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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26901908 - 08/27/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Any feedback? I keep having to mist, although I thought this was more of a set and forget TEK. Maybe I just made too many holes in my bag?

This would be day 8 since birthing, I would imagine there should be pins anytime now.

It's amazing to see how much has colonized on that PE tub that I JUST DID! Crazy cool:cool:


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