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InvisibleShiithead
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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26885214 - 08/17/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Saving a child. Or anyone really.

The world would look different if everyone was more selfless.


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: ninja cat 09] * 1
    #26885217 - 08/17/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26885221 - 08/17/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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It's demanding and exciting work, that being said a lot of the people there have messed up sleep schedules, which leads to health issues and many develop PTSD, so they're something to consider.



Messed up schedules I like - it's the 9-5 grind that wears me the fuck down.

Surely there's a fuck ton of study required to become a paramedic?


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26885237 - 08/17/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You can be EMT in 2 years I think.

1 year if you work your ass off.


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Hebrews 11:3
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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26885238 - 08/17/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Typically being a paramedic is about 2 years sometimes less in the US. It’s not even a degree, just a certificate. However sometimes it’s an associates or bachelors.

However in Australia, UK and Canada it’s always 4 year degree.


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #26885259 - 08/17/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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However in Australia, UK and Canada it’s always 4 year degree.



Thanks man.

That rules me out then. I'm not willing to go back to a classroom for any reason at all.


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26885292 - 08/17/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I should add that while I know a paramedic (the highest level of prehospital care) is a 4 year degree in Commonwealth countries, I'm unsure the requirements (or existence) for lower levels of EMS care in Commonwealth counties.

For example, in the US, the minimum of EMS certification starts with an emergency medical responder (EMR) which is only 48 hours of material. While EMRs are rarely used in the US due to the plentiful amounts of EMTs (EMT-Basics), they are sometimes the highest level of care in rural communities.

So, maybe there is something similar that you could learn basic life saving techniques and work in rural communities in some regard.


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #26885332 - 08/17/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Jsb there are different levels of paramedic but you can become the most basic level, emt-b in just six months in the states

IMO it doesnt take 4 years to learn to be an effective paramedic. You need the skills to keep people alive until they arrive at a hospital. Compared with other medical professions you dont need learn as much about assessment, diagnosis, medications, or patient teaching. I imagine it can be very rewarding though

I would personally go into er/icu nursing though. Only takes 2 more semesters of schooling and you have a lot more upward mobility/flexibility. Nurse practitioners make around 140k annually here and you have most of the privileges of a general practice MD.


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: morrowasted]
    #26885354 - 08/17/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I actually think the commonwealth nations have the right idea by requiring paramedics to have degrees. Because I think like nurses, paramedics will benefit from the critical thinking skills gained during a bachelors degree and that will lead to more professional practice. Because you don't start learning until you get into the field anyway. Also having a degree will lead to higher wages, which will make people want to stay working as a paramedic and will then lead to better patient care.


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #26886633 - 08/18/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ambulance driver doesnt require nearly as much medical training as the actual medic that rides along

Here at least the driver isn't even certified to give shots. Thats why they always come with two ambulances when there needs to be CPR. You get two licensed medics


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26886737 - 08/18/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That’s cool, in the US it’s more common to have a EMT-B as a driver or even another medic before a driver only.

Thats a good option though JSB, driving the ambulance is important and definitely puts your life at risk.


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26886744 - 08/18/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Can anyone come up with some good/realistic ways that one might do this?

Or even dumb ones. Fuck it, this is the Pub, after all!!





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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26886850 - 08/18/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I entered someone's bedsit that was on fire once to get them out when I was a key worker at a homeless hostel. The guy was a client of mine. I remember being outside the door (which was a fire door) and looking at the smoke and wondering if I was going to be engulfed by flames when I opened it.

Worked out ok in the end; when I got in there it was just a simple chip pan fire that I was able to easily put out, but it taught me something about how I handle a crisis haha.

Incidentally the guy was physically fine after but it was actually a self harm or suicide attempt and I'm not too sure what happened to him in the end as I left that job soon after (I was just a student on a short term placement)


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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: pseudonym88]
    #26887191 - 08/18/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I entered someone's bedsit that was on fire once to get them out when I was a key worker at a homeless hostel. The guy was a client of mine. I remember being outside the door (which was a fire door) and looking at the smoke and wondering if I was going to be engulfed by flames when I opened it.

Worked out ok in the end; when I got in there it was just a simple chip pan fire that I was able to easily put out, but it taught me something about how I handle a crisis haha.

Incidentally the guy was physically fine after but it was actually a self harm or suicide attempt and I'm not too sure what happened to him in the end as I left that job soon after (I was just a student on a short term placement)






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Re: Putting ones life at risk for the good of others [Re: O_Dweeds]
    #26887657 - 08/19/20 02:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Love Team America 👍

And thanks. I was kind of surprised that I'd done it afterwards, I'm not normally known for taking risks.

I guess my thoughts are that these things just crop up unexpectedly sometimes and it's pretty much impossible to know how you'll react until it happens. No idea if I would react the same way if it happened again either so I try not to attach too much pride or ego to it.


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