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OfflineBuster_Brown
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"The way you do anything is the way you do everything."
    #26884946 - 08/17/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

https://www.bing.com/search?q=The+way+you+do+anything+is+the+way+you+do}everything.

From experience we might concede that some otherwise peaceful folk get violent when drunk. Chemicals affect our disposition.

From that we might concede that the lack of empathy in a stroke victim or Narcissism may be correctable with chemicals.

From the data presented on chat forums the psychiatrically minded might ponder on the nature of the chemical that might reverse obvious signs of Narcissism or brain dysfunction.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26884958 - 08/17/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

typical.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26884998 - 08/17/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I expected an objection to the idea that signs of a traumatic brain injury could be ameliorated thru drug therapy.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26885013 - 08/17/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think that's nonesense. I've seen my bipolar mate get drunk many times and what happens is not your typical reaction to booze. Over a certain limit he literally turns into a complete twat. I don't think anything much has happened other than lowering of inhibitions knowing him as well as I do.

I solidly reject the cultish science being pushed on us by psychiatrists nowadays that we don't have souls but merely a few chemicals floating around our brains, it reminds me of the Freudian cult. Genome therapy on the other hand might literally be able to change us but I've had trips about that and it doesn't look pretty.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Grapefruit]
    #26885043 - 08/17/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know, but I think my 30 year dependency on cannabis did manage to affect a change in my egoic reactions.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26885077 - 08/17/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I like the phrase "The way you do anything is the way you do everything."
but I don't like having to look at videos to know all the background, to the discussion.

quite likely what I like is not what they (the producers of the videos) meant by using the phrase, especially as I see you guys talking about gene therapy which might hack the biopsychiatric system.

to me it would suggest the core meaning of The Way, as in the 8fold path being a way to conduct oneself in one thing and in all things.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26885091 - 08/17/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Again I don't know, but one could hazard a guess that, from evident qualities, that smoking Salvia increases appreciation of humor.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26885094 - 08/17/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

it's a stretch, but everything gets stretchy on salvia.

did you watch all the videos?


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26885117 - 08/17/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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I don't know, but I think my 30 year dependency on cannabis did manage to affect a change in my egoic reactions.




Yeah to be fair over time I think it probably does change you. But a lot of non drug related things will do (jobs for example). Man is a creature of habit.

What videos is RGV talking about? Did I miss something?


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26885130 - 08/17/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't know, but I think my 30 year dependency on cannabis did manage to affect a change in my egoic reactions.


I'd be curious to hear more about this, if you've written anything about it here, or if you feel like expounding a bit.

I've been examining my long-term relationship to

alcohol (wasted time, worsened health, a black hole);
caffeine (creativity and insight, offset by anxiety, negative effects on nervous system, magnifying repetitive/compulsive behavior);
weed (probably on the whole lots of wasted time and a black hole - certainly lots of paranoia and painful/confusing nights - some positive effects on creativity/flow recently);
and CBD, my newest substance of choice - pretty big shift in mind/body consciousness over time, still not sure if it's more of an aid or a crutch. I also seem to be pretty dependent on it.

Regarding the original topic - I like this quote too. It sounds ridiculous, but as I get older, the Nike slogan "Just do it" actually seems to be pretty profound to me. Whenever I'm able to muster the energy to do something I've been procrastinating on, it helps me take a step forward in some way. The art of life seems to me to be doing the thing that's needed with presence and grace, to the extent it's possible. Just doing the task, being there as fully as one can, breathing, without dwelling on the next ten thousand things that await to be done. It doesn't seem easy.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26885262 - 08/17/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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did you watch all the videos?




Nah, I'm exercising a passive-aggressive response, to the idea expressed in the title of this topic, that narcissists are set in their ways; by pointing out that psychiatric medicine can change a narcissist's behavior.

Perhaps even a label of 'Narcissistic' can be employed in a passive-aggressive attempt to minimize encroachment on one's territory so to speak; the lesson then being that perhaps experimentation with substances can be a benefit to both parties on either side of a dispute.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Grapefruit]
    #26885269 - 08/17/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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What videos is RGV talking about? Did I miss something?




From his response to them I guess we both missed something.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Lion]
    #26885278 - 08/17/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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I don't know, but I think my 30 year dependency on cannabis did manage to affect a change in my egoic reactions.




I'd be curious to hear more about this, if you've written anything about it here, or if you feel like expounding a bit.




I think it was a common conception amongst rednecks during the mid last century that smoking pot contributed to pansyfication.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26885544 - 08/17/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

in the original Post of the thread - lots of videos

link outlined in red, see?



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    #26885616 - 08/17/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Regarding the original topic - I like this quote too. It sounds ridiculous, but as I get older, the Nike slogan "Just do it" actually seems to be pretty profound to me. Whenever I'm able to muster the energy to do something I've been procrastinating on, it helps me take a step forward in some way. The art of life seems to me to be doing the thing that's needed with presence and grace, to the extent it's possible. Just doing the task, being there as fully as one can, breathing, without dwelling on the next ten thousand things that await to be done. It doesn't seem easy.




Totally agree with this.

I took a small dose of mushrooms after work, just half a gram, and once it kicked in I found myself totally stuck trying to figure out whether to order in food. Everything I considered, I was convinced I would only be disappointed in quality somehow.

After about 15 minutes of being annoyed that I wanted something but nothing seemed like a good idea, I finally realized that I just needed to go DO something, who cares if it turned out to be disappointing. I brought a small mason jar of red wine to the park and watched the sun set and it was glorious.



Sometimes I procrastinate and other times I talk myself out of things because I think I won't enjoy them for some reason. But if I just do the thing, it's always better than not doing it and thinking about it.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: the strander]
    #26886048 - 08/18/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Getting back to the manufacturing of sanity in people who have Parkinson's disease, a brain injury or a stroke -

In the film Awakenings, based on a real life experience, sanity is produced in catatonic patients who were exposed to encephalitis.

This supports a premise that traumatic brain injuries may be mitigated, given the right dosage or combination or whatever, by the use of drugs.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26886051 - 08/18/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't like having to look at videos to know all the background, to the discussion.






Oy Vey I share your disinclination, but after reading your reply I confess I may have to get the gist of them myself.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26887498 - 08/18/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

video schmideo

as regards ""The way you do anything is the way you do everything." its got a sort of zen ring to it - but it is totally false - the stereotype of the absent minded professor, I have personally known. Many do some things very well, and others poorly. These professors (man & wife) that understood advanced physics would regularly drive into the neighborhood trash cans. We didn't have to go outside when we heard the noise, we just said: "Oh its the "so and sos", parking or leaving.

As a phrase to inspire Buddhist monks to be constantly 'mindful' it may have some value, as it pertains to everyday simple chores, like sweeping, cooking, doing laundry etc. But when it comes to particular talents, they are often completely out of balance with the rest of the personality.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: laughingdog]
    #26887839 - 08/19/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So you do not like looking at the reality of this.

the nutty professor bumbles through everything, even his equations and experiments. everything he does is repeated because he skips things and makes lots of  errors, that is his nutty path or way of being. in some domains he leaves the mistakes, like his hair, his shoes etc., in others he repeats until nice.

we are all this nutty professor just each one has different priorities and habits.


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Re: "The way you do anything is the way you do everything." [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27333780 - 06/03/21 11:30 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

and different identities

identity affects how one navigates life
and where one goes
and what one does
in the future

and this creates better identity

it is without limit

I'm thinking buddha


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