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InvisibleJohn
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bush or kerry
    #2688464 - 05/16/04 07:53 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

so?
Of the election was today who would you vote for?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (05/16/04 12:00 AM) to (No end specified)
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2688746 - 05/16/04 08:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

kerry is the lesser of two evils.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2688783 - 05/16/04 09:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I was gonna do this, but i think its pointless.
We know who is gonna win on the shroomery poll.

Now everyone has to get out and vote.

I swear if I see any votes for bush there better be an post below that explains why.  :smirk:

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InvisibleJohn
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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Effed]
    #2690292 - 05/17/04 05:50 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

i figured the same but you never know, surprised bush dosn't has even one vote yet because there are sure people that say he's better than kerry here.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2690818 - 05/17/04 10:57 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Neither.

If I do vote, it will be for the libertarian candidate. I don't care if that helps one of the other two fucks get elected. Neither of them are worthy of my vote.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Viveka]
    #2705556 - 05/20/04 12:16 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EvilEye? said:
Neither. 

If I do vote, it will be for the libertarian candidate.  I don't care if that helps one of the other two fucks get elected.  Neither of them are worthy of my vote.




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Re: bush or kerry [Re: grib]
    #2712011 - 05/21/04 04:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

They're all bad choices. Republican, democrat, libertarian...

Bring Bill back!

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Effed]
    #2712033 - 05/21/04 04:14 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Effed said:
I was gonna do this, but i think its pointless.
We know who is gonna win on the shroomery poll.

Now everyone has to get out and vote.

I swear if I see any votes for bush there better be an post below that explains why.  :smirk:



Because while Bush is an asshole, Kerry is a maggot infested, puss dripping asshole.


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2713304 - 05/21/04 11:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Kerry comes across off as a gumby head pussy douche to me. I dont like bush tho either... but with the mess we have i think bush should go for 4 more years then id like to see someone better in.


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: baraka]
    #2714120 - 05/22/04 07:02 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Kerry comes across off as a gumby head pussy douche to me.



An accurate assessment.


Quote:

I dont like bush tho either



Not many do.


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2714439 - 05/22/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I half assed want bush to win so when he's done fucking up the country completely, eight years of Bush malfeasance will be undeniable.I pray the country can survive what is coming.
WR


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2714585 - 05/22/04 12:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You guys are insane if you want bush in again. If he gets elected Im moving to Kanada no shit.  :smirk:
Please think about what the person you are giving your vote stands for, more rights are being stripped away every minute and there is only one thing we can do about it.

VOTE JOHN KERRY!

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Effed]
    #2715089 - 05/22/04 03:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I can't stand either of them.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2715468 - 05/22/04 05:43 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Kerry, for the simple reason that he's not Bush.


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Locus]
    #2715797 - 05/22/04 07:10 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Frankly I cant either, but you have to choose.
I'd love to say eff it all and head or Canada right now, unfortunately this country has me quite tied down ATM.  :smirk:

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Effed]
    #2717465 - 05/23/04 03:45 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder why both of them seem lame and *b.a.d*
Aint there some cool guy like FDR some time ago


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2723384 - 05/24/04 02:53 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: bush or kerry [Re: valour]
    #2737612 - 05/27/04 04:16 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Neither will legalize pot, so it makes no difference. I just dont like higher taxes, cuz I need drug money =b.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: valour]
    #2737682 - 05/27/04 04:34 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

i say that bush -'was just a mother fucking scum bag who had to stick a needle into his dick to get high'-(anti flag daddy lyrics)

and kerry just wants to get 'richbitch' pussy from secertarys and shit fucking copy cat


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Effed]
    #2738196 - 05/27/04 06:52 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Effed said:
I was gonna do this, but i think its pointless.
We know who is gonna win on the shroomery poll.

Now everyone has to get out and vote.

I swear if I see any votes for bush there better be an post below that explains why.  :smirk:




take a stroll into pa&l eFFFFFEd , there are plenty of angry bush supporters in there

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2738781 - 05/27/04 08:52 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Whats it really matter who wins at the end result. This administration is probably better off finishing what they started, instead of having to make too much change right now.

In the end pot is still illegal and your taxes will still be lower.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Redo]
    #2738835 - 05/27/04 08:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

after all, pot and money are the only two things that matter

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: wrong]
    #2740741 - 05/28/04 08:15 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

> This administration is probably better off finishing what they started, instead of having to make too much change right now.

Why would they ever be motivated to finish what they have started if it means staying in office?


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: wrong]
    #2744247 - 05/29/04 12:08 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

after all, pot and money are the only two things that matter





seriously, i was hoping you were kidding when you first said that redo.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2745448 - 05/29/04 11:15 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Neither one, other,,,,


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Tao]
    #2751758 - 05/31/04 11:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I didnt say that Tao =b, but they are damned important :laugh:/.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2772946 - 06/07/04 08:09 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Neither one will make pot legal but I bet Kerry would make the laws more lax and/or not make anymore stupid laws that effect the drug using community.
I think A lot of people are voting for Kerry because he is "not bush" and that is there only reason. They are both not that great of a choice. If we let the bush party stay the will just get lazy near the end of the next four years and not really give a shit cause the cant get back into office unless chaney runs and tell me: Who the fuck will vote for that guy?

If bush stays drugs laws will be stricter and there will be more of this national security bullshit where they can invade your privacy. He will most likly make just about all aspects of the war and America worse and this place will suck even more.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Effed]
    #2773066 - 06/07/04 08:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I chose Bush because I like him, pure and simple. Kerry is a flip flopping, no stance having, blowing in the wind military hating mofo.

Go Bush:)

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: thatbig]
    #2773108 - 06/07/04 09:03 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

And Bush hasn't flip-flopped? If you think this, I could show you some examples to the contrary which make Kerry's "flip-flops"(many of which are changes in his position over a long period of time) pale in comparison.


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: silversoul7]
    #2774184 - 06/08/04 08:27 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Kerry changes on almost everything, some over long periods of time some over days. All politicians change stances, but Kerry likes to have his cake and eat it too, eg the famous "I voted yes before I voted no".

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2774419 - 06/08/04 10:36 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Can someone offer a LOGICAL or REASONED arguement as to why Kerry isn't the better candidate? I mean, I see a lot of school-yard name calling in the posts above, lots of generalized statements about how one is the "lesser of two evils" but can someone discuss this issue without name calling?

I think that those who fall into the arguments presented above are really allowing the propoganda of both parties to get to them. I know neither candidate is the "bee's knees" so to speak, but at the same time there are logical and reasonable arguments as to why one might be "better" than the other that don't involve statements like "He's not Bush" or "He's a puss dripping douche bag" ect.

Comon, elevate the level of debate, for if we don't we are just as much to blame for the failure of our elected officials.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Redo]
    #2774487 - 06/08/04 11:10 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

As a senator, you often vote on the same bill many times because people always attach rider bills to it, so it's likely that many of these "flip-flops" were ones where he supported the bill, but wanted to get rid of the rider. Thus one could "vote yes before voting no" and not really be "flip-flopping."


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: silversoul7]
    #2774507 - 06/08/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Its why senators rarely get voted in. And oddly, Christians dont either. Except JFK, who was both. =b

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Redo]
    #2774523 - 06/08/04 11:29 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Redo said:
Its why senators rarely get voted in.



Truman
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon

All served in the U.S. senate.

Quote:

And oddly, Christians dont either.



:wtf:


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: thatbig]
    #2774538 - 06/08/04 11:35 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Kerry a "flip-flopper?" Saying that you don't have the ability to adjust your policy as circumstances change and evolve around is archaic logic at best. Everyone should have the ability to do this, as long as the arguement behind doing so is REASONED and LOGICAL.

But, in truth as stated above, most of Kerry's alleged "Flip-Flops" come from "riders" on bills that he voted for or against. Not to mention the distortion of truth that is typical of the current Republican attack machine.

Kerry voted for an alternative Iraq funding bill that paid for the operations by rolling back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, but voted against the Republican backed bill which didn't fund the operation is any kind of fiscially respponsible manner... hence the now infamous "I voted for it before voting against it" shit.

But while we are on the topic of Flip Flops.. lets take a look at those executed by our Commander in Cheif:

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]

...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam." [President Bush 3/6/03]

...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]

These are just a few.. the list is long and I didn't want to put anybody to sleep reading it.

The TRUTH with set you free my young republican friends :wink:.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Redo]
    #2774542 - 06/08/04 11:38 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

The ONLY US president that was not an admitted christian was Thomas Jefferson.. and even that is disputed by some historians.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: psilocyber]
    #2774563 - 06/08/04 11:48 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

psilocyber said:
The ONLY US president that was not an admitted christian was Thomas Jefferson.. and even that is disputed by some historians.



Millard Fillmore and William Howard Taft were Unitarian, which derives from Christianity, but could not properly be called Christian, since it denies the divinity of Christ. Also, Andrew Johnson belonged to no church. In general, though, almost every president has been Christian.


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: silversoul7]
    #2776809 - 06/09/04 01:41 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

sorry, I meant Catholic, my head is never on straight.

http://www.usconstitution.com/PresByReligion.htm

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: psilocyber]
    #2777332 - 06/09/04 08:41 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

The ONLY US president that was not an admitted christian was Thomas Jefferson.. 



Ironic as he is ,IMHO, THE MOST like a follower of Christ(as opposed to a christian which has many conotations)
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Re: bush or kerry [Re: whiterasta]
    #2800184 - 06/16/04 06:30 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

you guys should go see www.fahrenheit911.com


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: edisnione]
    #2801271 - 06/17/04 01:34 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

man i voted kerry, cause seriously i think bush is just gonna keep wiping his ass with the country

however i dont know if i will even vote in this election since i dont think too much for kerry either

and anyway bush will probably just steal the election or soemthing making voting pointless


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2811420 - 06/20/04 03:28 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

But i can see people that visit majic mushroom sites being democrats anyways.

And im not even american and I voted for kerry! I really hope he wins, bush is just scary.


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Re: bush or kerry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2829227 - 06/25/04 09:49 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i like them both

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: MinimumEfrt2]
    #2829716 - 06/26/04 02:13 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Northernsoul said:
And im not even american and I voted for kerry!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:


Quote:

MinimumEfrt2 said:
i like them both


Wow!  They both seem all right to me too...each with some things i like and dislike...One thing is certain...whoever is in the white house come 2005, i will probably stick up for him in arguments and such....I think alot of young people take a way too cynical look at things just for the sake of being cynical and rebellious.... :turtle:

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: DieCommie]
    #2829774 - 06/26/04 03:05 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i think alot of young people smoke marijuana

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: wrong]
    #2835205 - 06/28/04 12:32 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

wow i never thought there would be another person that agrees with me

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Help on the Way]
    #2837137 - 06/28/04 05:28 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Not voting is about one of the dumbest things you can possibly do. I'm not trying to encourage you to vote because I think you'll support my guy, but not participating in the democratic process is what leads to crap like evangelical christians taking over the whitehouse, the legislation of morality, and the erosion of civil liberties and freedoms.

You might not like Kerry, but it would take a lot of solid factual arugments to show that he would do worse for the country than the current Chimpanzee in Chief.

Open your eyes, read the facts, look into the issues, be informed, PARTICIPATE.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2837248 - 06/28/04 06:22 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

If you decide you don't like Kerry or Bush, Vote for some one else! They are not the only ones on the ballot!

As for NON-American's voting, Well there were a LOT of dead people that voted for Kennedy, Bush, Gore, and Clinton so why not... :wink:

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: psilocyber]
    #2841546 - 06/29/04 09:51 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

psilocyber said:
legislation of morality


I dont want to pick a fight, but maybe you can show me a law that isnt based on morality? What i mean is all laws are based on morality... isnt immoral to steal? or to drive way to fast and endanger others? Some consider smokin weed imoral, i dont, but it is a law (a stupid law) based on morality. I cant think of any law that isnt based on morality...

Of course im looking at the "letter" of your statement not the "spirit" of it which i assume is legislation based on christian morality. I agree that laws should not be based only on christian morality.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: DieCommie]
    #2844130 - 06/30/04 03:41 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Of course im looking at the "letter" of your statement not the "spirit" of it which i assume is legislation based on christian morality. I agree that laws should not be based only on christian morality.




Yep, you got it. I also agree that all laws are based on some sort of morality. There are generally accepted moral guidelines that civilization (as it is currently defined) agrees to across the board so that it may exhist in a peaceful and prosperous manner (ie not stealing, killing, raping, speeding down the road, ect).

It's the push of the wholly evangelical agenda that scares me. In and of itself, christian morality isn't a bad thing. I agree that one should love thy neighbor, not covent thy neighbors wife, yada yada. But I don't want some asshole telling my friends who happen to be gay that they can't share their lives together in the same manner as I do with my wife, just because the "bible says it's a sin." In fact, the core beliefs of the christian faith are a wonderful foundation for the development of modern civilization. It's just when people take this belief too far and start telling others they are "wrong" or come up with literal, deliberate, and SELECTIVE interpretations of their faith that we start to come into problems.

On a side note, people talk a lot of crap about how Kerry and Bush are the "same."

Well...

Do you believe in a woman's right to choose?

Do you believe in the separation of church and state?

Do you believe in fair marketplace economics?

Do you believe in the protection of civil liberties and freedom from unwarranted goverment intrusion into your private civil life?

Do you beleive that we should only sacrifice the lives of our country's young people for the defense of nation?

There are FUNDEMENTAL differences between the two, but politics often muddies the waters so that policies tend to not be far off when it is all said and done. So what do you FUNDEMENTALLY believe in? Not to mention that Senator Kerry's wife is one of the most giving and philanthropic individuals in the country. She donates nearly 75 MILLION dollars a year to various foundations and charities.

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: psilocyber]
    #2844455 - 06/30/04 05:42 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

we really need to get bush out of the whitehouse. seriously, he is destroying our country and stripping us of our constitutional rights more and more. he is an idiot and doesn't know what the hell he's doing. people give clinton a bad name, but i think clinton was one of the best presidents we had in a long while, he did a lot of positive things for our country....then bush came in and fucked everything up significantly. he is, in a sense, evil...and is in no way capable of running a burger king, let alone our fucking country. kerry isn't anything special, true, but he isn't bush. i know that's not a great reason to vote for someone, but in the situation we're in, it doesn't matter...WE NEED BUSH OUT OF THE WHITEHOUSE!!! he has lied to us on several occassions and tainted the idea of american pride. do your part as an american and get this fucking retard out of office....or trust me, you will regret it...he will continue to destroy all that we have at his expense. he doesn't care about anyone.

honestly, i would like to vote for Ralph Nader but i know he won't win. it's a shame because he could do so much for this country. he is more intelligent than both kerry and bush combined and he actually stands for the people. he has a realistic view on the stance of america. i respect him and his views a lot but i'm still going with kerry. mostly because i know Nader won't win and i want all possible votes to go to kerry to stop the tyranny of bush. at all cost we must remove bush from office, even if it means Nader doesn't get a chance in the polls. but if bush wins again, i can tell you one thing...i'm out! i'm moving to canada and that's that! america's doomed if he wins again. at least in canada i can smoke a joint and not worry about war.


peace

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: John]
    #2862219 - 07/06/04 05:27 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Nader

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: Anonymous]
    #4354025 - 06/30/05 01:59 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

bush is pust!

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Re: bush or kerry [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #4369597 - 07/04/05 02:04 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

tuco_ramirez said:
Bring Bill back!




I heared he did a great job with the economy.
However, going to war with Yugoslavia (even if it was actually NATO) was so damn wrong.

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