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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Billy Ray] * 1
    #26893124 - 08/22/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I mean, anyone on the fence about whether or not to support BLM has probably (just a hunch) been completely turned away on account of antics like these https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1296680721591889922

So what is the objective? Are they just trying to provoke and piss people off? I mean in the posted video it seems like some immature person indulging in the license to be obnoxious for its own sake and unguided by any ethos. If there's more context to that video I'd like to know.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: yeah]
    #26894255 - 08/22/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

And yet despite some cases of mob action, the public still supports the protests. People are also seeing the police initiating conflict.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26894796 - 08/23/20 05:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

These protest are being used for political reasons the democrats are letting them continue because they think it makes Trump look bad an joe look like hes a hero.

When really trump is gaining more support because people are over this protesting. People are done with business being looted an weak mayers an governors giving these protesters a free pass to cause chaos.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: yeah]
    #26894798 - 08/23/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah said:
I mean, anyone on the fence about whether or not to support BLM has probably (just a hunch) been completely turned away on account of antics like these https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1296680721591889922

So what is the objective? Are they just trying to provoke and piss people off? I mean in the posted video it seems like some immature person indulging in the license to be obnoxious for its own sake and unguided by any ethos. If there's more context to that video I'd like to know.


most of my black friends really hate BLM they say it makes black people look weak an desperate an that it's turning people against what they really want an that just have there voices heard an people to pay attention to what's going on in there communities.

Im all for a good cause as long as your agenda is not forcing people to act or think on there terms


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Mach z 800]
    #26895035 - 08/23/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I can see validity in this post. However, I completely disagree with the one you posted above that Trump is gaining support over this. He's trying to use this as a reason to gain support, but at least so far, it's not working.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26895083 - 08/23/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It’s working..

For anyone paying attention it is.  These mayors are making a good case for why they shouldn’t be allowed to run shit and how nothing is too low for them to try to pull.  You have to be paying attention and not getting your news from Facebook memes though.  Some people are irreparably blind dumb..


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26895431 - 08/23/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I completely disagree that Trump is gaining support over this. He's trying to use this as a reason to gain support, but at least so far, it's not working.



It’s working..



Here's the latest consolidated Trump approval ratings:  https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/



Trump's approval ratings have gone up about 2% in the last month.  :shrug:


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26895446 - 08/23/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trump is still a dead man in this election. It's the swing states that he's losing very badly in, that's not likely to change. At this point, it will still be a landslide victory for Biden.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: qman]
    #26895564 - 08/23/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Why Biden choose a  VP,  not in a swing state was stupid. Undecided if I think Trump will win.... but it seems the Dems are making it a much tougher fight then it needs to be.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26895797 - 08/23/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trump is going to win 2020 by a larger margin than he beat Hillary.

How is everyone falling for the same thing we fell for in 2016? Didn't we learn our lesson once?


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Vahn421]
    #26896159 - 08/23/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Democrats learned their lesson. The only reason trump won is that nobody actually thought someone so absurdly ridiculous could actually win the election.

Trump is going to lose. The question is will he lose in a humiliating fashion or not.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #26896176 - 08/23/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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It’s working..

For anyone paying attention it is.  These mayors are making a good case for why they shouldn’t be allowed to run shit and how nothing is too low for them to try to pull.  You have to be paying attention and not getting your news from Facebook memes though.  Some people are irreparably blind dumb..



Black lives matter polls 30% higher than trump.

Trumps big problem from now until the election is going to be the absolute chaos manifesting in schools. The push to get kids back into classrooms is predictably falling apart in very inconvenient ways. Parents who were expecting their kids to be out of the house again are going to have to scramble to deal with them being sent home for quarantine or worse. I think people are just tired of him being wrong about everything.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: koods] * 1
    #26896190 - 08/23/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

People are more tired of everyone blaming Trump for everything.

A president is not God. America should be taking care of itself, too.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Vahn421] * 2
    #26896479 - 08/24/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trump is wrong about everything, and subsequently being blamed for everything, in part because he's so full of shit that he makes promises he's incapable of keeping. For example, he promised "beautiful" healthcare, and he promised to never cut Medicare and Medicaid.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/la-na-trump-healthcare-20160303-story.html
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/16/15807806/trump-breaking-health-promises

Four years later, there is no health care reform, and the 2021 Medicare budget shows $500B cuts in spending over ten years.

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/medicare-in-the-2021-trump-budget

Trump was at the helm during a time where his party held all three branches, and he wasn't even able to create "beautiful" healthcare. While his party held two branches, they slashed funding for healthcare for older Americans. And, his administration is doing the same for Medicaid, which provides healthcare to the poorest Americans. In fact, they are setting both Medicare and Medicaid up to fail by cutting funding, while acting like it reduces tax burden for non working Americans. Which is a another lie of his, because non-working people don't even pay that tax.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlaszewski2/2020/08/09/trump-calls-for-making-permanent-cuts-to-both-the-medicare-and-social-security-payroll-taxes/#3806ff0a208e

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/trump-administrations-harmful-changes-to-medicaid

So, this leaves us to conclude, that at least in regards to that very "beautiful" healthcare (a serious issue I reckon) we were all looking forward to, Trump is absolutely to blame for a lack of progress. Instead, we have actually regressed under his leadership.

So for those who are tired of him getting blamed for things, BOOO FUCKING HOOO. He's failed in an epic manner with healthcare, and this just one of many examples.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Mach z 800]
    #26896573 - 08/24/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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These protest are being used for political reasons



Isn't that the whole point of a protest?


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #26898082 - 08/25/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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There's absolutely nothing fascist about blm or antifa. That is just some right wing fantasy shit.




You sure?



Yes




It's funny the way some people can't admit fascism is right wing, and just thinks it's a synonym for oppressive government.  I guess because our culture vilifies Nazi Germany so much, and modern conservatives can't deal with being on the same side as them on the political spectrum.  BLM and Antifa may contain some elements of Marxism, but Marxism in the 21st century means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

Everyone is entitled to their own political viewpoint, but at least know the difference between the right and the left.




Ever play Pac-Man? sometimes you go so far left that you vanish and appear on the far right of the screen and BOOM just like that your a fascist!


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26898335 - 08/25/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Some political scientists view the political spectrum as being circular, and the extreme left and right can wind up in a similar place. But there's no denying the role that big capital plays in fascism, and little or no role in communism.


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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26898441 - 08/25/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Personally, I'm a proponent of fish hook theory. There is a strong intersection between centrist neoliberalism and fascism; and historically centrists have enabled fascism with predictable frequency.



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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: Billy Ray]
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Re: Mostly peaceful protests [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26898456 - 08/25/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just another horrible example of how police violence indirectly harms the community. We need to stop killer cops from continuing to create public unrest.

No justice - no peace.


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