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OfflineSeriously_trippin
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
    #26883734 - 08/16/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I hear the narrative from the president and his supporters that we are in his words "close to number 1 when it comes to covid" meaning we are doing better then other countries this is a flat out lie for political gain that will directly kill people that take him at his word and also think the virus is also in his words 99.9% harmless. I also hear that everywhere got hit so it's inevitable which is another bold face lie. Yes everywhere got hit and all across the world countries took action with mask wearing, way more travel bans much quicker, contact tracing,temp checks,testing more, took lockdowns serious and what we see is they've reduced the amount of deaths and infections all around the world. In some cases 170x then we did  which allows them to live a semi normal life. It allows their economies not to be shut down and reopened 3 times nd people to live their lives. As long as we fight about masks a will never return to any kind of normality for the US


Just for starters canada has a little over 9 thousand deaths total, We are the worst country in infections and deaths to deny that is to empower covid19 to kill more people. Spitting in the face of the dead,doctors,nurses funeral homes. Accessory to murder is what it is. Here's the actual number of just deaths : Britain 41,366, Spain 28,617, France 30,410, Australia 396 deaths, Italy 35,396, Germany 9,290, South Korea  305,India is at 50k and even second place in deaths in the world which is Brazil has 108k deaths and their country is run by a brutal true communist piece of shit. Saying we are first place is beyond stupid.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #26883747 - 08/16/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

In contrast, the U.S. vaccine schedule (see Table 1) prescribes routine vaccination during pregnancy, calls for the first HepB vaccine dose within 24 hours of birth—even though 99.9% of pregnant women, upon testing, are hepatitis B negative, and follows up with 20 to 22 vaccine doses in the first year alone. No other developed country administers as many vaccine doses in the first two years of life.

The HepB vaccine injects a newborn with a 250-microgram load of aluminum, a neurotoxic and immune-toxic adjuvant used to provoke an immune response. There are no studies to back up the safety of exposing infants to such high levels of the injected metal. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) upper limit for aluminum in intravenous (IV) fluids for newborns is far lower at five micrograms per kilogram per day (mcg/kg/day)—and even at these levels, researchers have documented the potential for impaired neurologic development. For an average newborn weighing 7.5 pounds, the HepB vaccine has over 15 times more aluminum than the FDA’s upper limit for IV solutions.

Unlike Japan, the U.S. administers flu and Tdap vaccines to pregnant women (during any trimester) and babies receive flu shots at six months of age, continuing every single year thereafter. Manufacturers have never tested the safety of flu shots administered during pregnancy, and the FDA has never formally licensed any vaccines “specifically for use during pregnancy to protect the infant.”

Nice to see Australia doing so well at 396 deaths?

Did I read that right?

A majority of deaths in US happened in 5 states, NY and New Jersey being the top two.

And we're at like 9th for deaths per population.

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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26883788 - 08/16/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
I hear the narrative from the president and his supporters that we are in his words "close to number 1 when it comes to covid" meaning we are doing better then other countries this is a flat out lie for political gain that will directly kill people that take him at his word and also think the virus is also in his words 99.9% harmless. I also hear that everywhere got hit so it's inevitable which is another bold face lie. Yes everywhere got hit and all across the world countries took action with mask wearing, way more travel bans much quicker, contact tracing,temp checks,testing more, took lockdowns serious and what we see is they've reduced the amount of deaths and infections all around the world. In some cases 170x then we did  which allows them to live a semi normal life. It allows their economies not to be shut down and reopened 3 times nd people to live their lives. As long as we fight about masks a will never return to any kind of normality for the US


Just for starters canada has a little over 9 thousand deaths total, We are the worst country in infections and deaths to deny that is to empower covid19 to kill more people. Spitting in the face of the dead,doctors,nurses funeral homes. Accessory to murder is what it is. Here's the actual number of just deaths : Britain 41,366, Spain 28,617, France 30,410, Australia 396 deaths, Italy 35,396, Germany 9,290, South Korea  305,India is at 50k and even second place in deaths in the world which is Brazil has 108k deaths and their country is run by a brutal true communist piece of shit. Saying we are first place is beyond stupid.




OOps didn't hit quote

My favorite part about the Travel bans is when Trump tried to implement some he was called racist for wanting to do it lmao.

What a shit show



Also take not we have 8.5x canadas population, which is the equivalent of us having 75,000 deaths in the USA per capita. Sure we are a bit over double that but we are also adding people who got shot in the damn head to our death count lol 


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OfflineIce9
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26883810 - 08/16/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

budmanman said:
Quote:

Seriously_trippin said:
I hear the narrative from the president and his supporters that we are in his words "close to number 1 when it comes to covid" meaning we are doing better then other countries this is a flat out lie for political gain that will directly kill people that take him at his word and also think the virus is also in his words 99.9% harmless. I also hear that everywhere got hit so it's inevitable which is another bold face lie. Yes everywhere got hit and all across the world countries took action with mask wearing, way more travel bans much quicker, contact tracing,temp checks,testing more, took lockdowns serious and what we see is they've reduced the amount of deaths and infections all around the world. In some cases 170x then we did  which allows them to live a semi normal life. It allows their economies not to be shut down and reopened 3 times nd people to live their lives. As long as we fight about masks a will never return to any kind of normality for the US


Just for starters canada has a little over 9 thousand deaths total, We are the worst country in infections and deaths to deny that is to empower covid19 to kill more people. Spitting in the face of the dead,doctors,nurses funeral homes. Accessory to murder is what it is. Here's the actual number of just deaths : Britain 41,366, Spain 28,617, France 30,410, Australia 396 deaths, Italy 35,396, Germany 9,290, South Korea  305,India is at 50k and even second place in deaths in the world which is Brazil has 108k deaths and their country is run by a brutal true communist piece of shit. Saying we are first place is beyond stupid.




OOps didn't hit quote

My favorite part about the Travel bans is when Trump tried to implement some he was called racist for wanting to do it lmao.

What a shit show



Also take not we have 8.5x canadas population, which is the equivalent of us having 75,000 deaths in the USA per capita. Sure we are a bit over double that but we are also adding people who got shot in the damn head to our death count lol 




I don't think per capita means what you think it means


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
    #26883822 - 08/16/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No it is you, if we have 8.5x their population and you times their deaths by 8.5x you get 75,000. So it is the equivilent of about 50% our deaths per capita and you're making medicine?


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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.


Edited by budmanman (08/16/20 06:50 PM)


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
    #26883827 - 08/16/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hello hehe I am trUmp 14 year old with orangewow brain:highdog:


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: twighead]
    #26883838 - 08/16/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Joe Biden nailed it. Everything he says here is correct .



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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26883850 - 08/16/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Jobs is a three letter word. ~ Joe Biden


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: twighead]
    #26883902 - 08/16/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Hello hehe I am trUmp 14 year old with orangewow brain:highdog:




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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
    #26884024 - 08/16/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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No it is you, if we have 8.5x their population and you times their deaths by 8.5x you get 75,000. So it is the equivilent of about 50% our deaths per capita and you're making medicine?




If 75k Americans died per capita, that means that for every American, 75k Americans died...get it now. Fucking morons in the PUB, guess I'll take my leave, talking to people with grade school educations whom act like they understand and know anything gets tiresome.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #26884038 - 08/16/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Ice9 said:
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budmanman said:
No it is you, if we have 8.5x their population and you times their deaths by 8.5x you get 75,000. So it is the equivilent of about 50% our deaths per capita and you're making medicine?




If 75k Americans died per capita, that means that for every American, 75k Americans died...get it now. Fucking morons in the PUB, guess I'll take my leave, talking to people with grade school educations whom act like they understand and know anything gets tiresome.




So what I should have just said which is the equivalent of us having 75,000 deaths in the USA? And not reference what statistical formula I am using to land on that number? Maybe if I added a word such as
Also take not we have 8.5x canadas population, which is the equivalent of us having 75,000 deaths in the USA using per capita.

Would that have been better?

No, you knew exactly what I meant and are using intellectual dishonesty to detract from the point I am making.

Side swiping the conversation onto an un relevant point.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26884061 - 08/16/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pot kettle black as fuck.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods] * 1
    #26884371 - 08/17/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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koods said:
Joe Biden nailed it. Everything he says here is correct .






Restricting international travel probably could have made a huge difference if done early enough. But yeah the cat is out of the bag now.

And "we need a plan" seems like a pretty useless statement. Does he have a plan now, or will the search for a plan begin if he gets elected?


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: psi] * 1
    #26884415 - 08/17/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I spoke to a guy at the gym who is developing one of the major vaccines. Cant remember the company he said he works for. Anyway he said he thinks it wont be ready til 2022


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: psi]
    #26884531 - 08/17/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

psi said:
Quote:

koods said:
Joe Biden nailed it. Everything he says here is correct .






Restricting international travel probably could have made a huge difference if done early enough. But yeah the cat is out of the bag now.

And "we need a plan" seems like a pretty useless statement. Does he have a plan now, or will the search for a plan begin if he gets elected?




Believe it or not normal government does things like plan.  It isn't a fucking secret to pay people to stay home, mitigate the worst of community spread, then slowly reopen with contact tracing.

It isn't like a James bond movie or something.  Just because trump decided this was a great situation to fleece the public and pretend the virus is a hoax doesn't mean the rest of the non ignorant world is searching for a "plan".

I'm sure you had a point saying it was a useless statement but I think you misunderstood the point of Biden saying that, he's obviously pointing out that trump has zero plan.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26884579 - 08/17/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Crazy_Horse said:
Jobs is a three letter word. ~ Joe Biden




He was only off by one. He's running against someone who payed a guy to take has SAT's and mixes up World War One and World War Two.

True, once he's President he will be the American idiot. But until then, it's Trump.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
    #26884580 - 08/17/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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budmanman said:

Quote:

budmanman said:
No it is you, if we have 8.5x their population and you times their deaths by 8.5x you get 75,000. So it is the equivilent of about 50% our deaths per capita and you're making medicine?





So what I should have just said which is the equivalent of us having 75,000 deaths in the USA? And not reference what statistical formula I am using to land on that number? Maybe if I added a word such as
Also take not we have 8.5x canadas population, which is the equivalent of us having 75,000 deaths in the USA using per capita.

Would that have been better?

No, you knew exactly what I meant and are using intellectual dishonesty to detract from the point I am making.

Side swiping the conversation onto an un relevant point.








I think what he was pointing out is that 75,000 deaths PER CAPITA would mean there are 26,250,000,000,000 deaths, which doesn't make sense. 

I'd like to point out that according to the numbers in the graph above, America has ~45 times as many reported cases than Canada and ~19 times the number of deaths. 

USA total cases:deaths ratio    5,476,266 : 171,535 = .031
CANADA  total : death ratio      121,652 : 9,020 =  .074
                                 
Seems like the disease is twice as bad for Canadians, or there's more than twice as many Canadians not getting tested until they die.  If we had Canada's death-from-covid rate, we would have 405,243 dead people from COVID.



Edited by MrBlueYoMind (08/17/20 10:16 AM)


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #26884587 - 08/17/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know where you are getting this James Bond stuff. I disputed that Biden "nailed it", i.e. said anything substantial in the quote. From a guy running to lead the country it does not really sum up what he would do better. As political quotes go I find it pretty lackluster.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: psi]
    #26884597 - 08/17/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I said the names bond aspect to show how insane your idea about if biden even has a plan or will have to search for one after the election. 

The rest of the world is all doing the same plan, it isn't a secret.  If you are acting like there isn't a plan you are being obtuse.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #26884620 - 08/17/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm acting like the quote is not an example of Biden "nailing it", and like it does not make it clear what his plan is.


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