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Moving to the USA - which state? * 1
    #26884442 - 08/17/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Contemplating a move from the UK to the US and first step is figuring out possible locations. Work is not a problem so it's all about a nice place to live.

- definitely prefer temperate climate but would like decent summers
- love forests, hate deserts and long winters
- want to avoid liberal cities full of homeless people or carjackers e.g. LA, Seattle
- also gay so don't want to be stalked by fundie nutters, basically want neighbors who would be happy to say hello and then leave us alone
- don't want city life but don't want isolation or small town vibes either. Suburbs or semi-rural near a small city perhaps?

So far I'm thinking Oregon or North Carolina... am I on the right track... any suggestions?


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.] * 2
    #26884449 - 08/17/20 08:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I lived in London for twenty years and have been living in the states for the past three, having traveled the country extensively before I moved here, so I've some experience.

I'd go for NC myself; the deep south is my favorite part of the country by far. Oregon - whilst being 'progressive' - was too far up its own ass due to the fact, IMO.

What makes you wanna do the move though? There are far better countries in the world to live in; ESPECIALLY if work is not a problem...


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26884555 - 08/17/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you are gay don't move to the south unless it's next to a big city.  Lots of repressed st8 discreet pound my ass while my wife is at work types.

Most idealistic places have a high cost of living attached and any decent sized city so have homeless and desperate poor people. That's kinda a staple in the US.

I would suggest Oregon, I love Portland as a city and the surrounding area is great, several gay nude beaches and lots of gay culture.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #26884615 - 08/17/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Minnisota


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.]
    #26884634 - 08/17/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

New Mexico!

I just got back from a little vacation there and it was amazing.











Expansive forests, lakes, mountains...the outdoor opportunites were limitless. And the town I was in (Ruidoso) was small (less than 10,000 full-time residents) but lots of tourism so the main part of the town was very vibrant with people, and the crowd from what I saw when I was there was a diverse crowd with lots of folks of all ages.

It does snow in winter because of the elevation but the summers are mild and being that New Mexico is in the southwest the winters I don't think are particularly brutal.

And if you'd like to get to one of the state's bigger cities then Santa Fe, which is a very unique (but also affluent) town with a big arts scene, is a short 3 hour drive from the part of New Mexico I displayed in the photos.

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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Niffla]
    #26884645 - 08/17/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you're gay you don't want to be in NC. Maybe Boulder Colorado, Newpaltz NY, or Salem Massachusetts.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.] * 1
    #26884887 - 08/17/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

North Carolina is a good choice. The people who are saying don't move to NC if you're gay don't live in NC :lol: It's full of the gays.

Asheville area would be fantastic for you. College town, but not so far liberal that you'll hate it. Fayetteville is nice, too.

The only downside to North Carolina is everybody drives between 40 and 80 MPH in the left lane. I'd much prefer to drive in West LA than any freeway in NC.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Srirachi]
    #26885003 - 08/17/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The only downside to North Carolina is everybody drives between 40 and 80 MPH in the left lane. I'd much prefer to drive in West LA than any freeway in NC.




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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.]
    #26885056 - 08/17/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Colorado. Period.
NC, No thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_North_Carolina


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26885138 - 08/17/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah but only cause my skin is white. Definitely wouldn't have felt that way were it a much darker shade.

Why your surprise, I'm curious?


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #26885268 - 08/17/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah but only cause my skin is white. Definitely wouldn't have felt that way were it a much darker shade.

Why your surprise, I'm curious?




rex despises the south



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North Carolina is a good choice. The people who are saying don't move to NC if you're gay don't live in NC :lol: It's full of the gays.






These days I think people base claims like that off old reputations for entire states. It's 2020 and now virtually every area/town/city with a significant population has a lot of gay people. I think the only cities/towns that being gay is still terrifying would be rural small towns far away from any population centers.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26885271 - 08/17/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Colorado. Period.





He said he wanted a temperate climate. That rules Colorado out completely.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Niffla]
    #26885289 - 08/17/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Oregon.
Colorado.
Northern California.

Anymore, anyone?


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.] * 1
    #26885405 - 08/17/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Contemplating a move from the UK to the US and first step is figuring out possible locations. Work is not a problem so it's all about a nice place to live.

- definitely prefer temperate climate but would like decent summers
- love forests, hate deserts and long winters
- want to avoid liberal cities full of homeless people or carjackers e.g. LA, Seattle
- also gay so don't want to be stalked by fundie nutters, basically want neighbors who would be happy to say hello and then leave us alone
- don't want city life but don't want isolation or small town vibes either. Suburbs or semi-rural near a small city perhaps?

So far I'm thinking Oregon or North Carolina... am I on the right track... any suggestions?




Oregon is okay, rainy most of the year. Only populated area worth mentioning is Portland, or Eugene. I actually hate winters here and will eventually be leaving.

Honestly bro, the USA is only good for working a high-paying job, or seeking capital heavy investors like if you're starting the next Tesla. Everything else here sucks, and I might eventually leave but this is the only place I can make 400k a year in without owning a company. Besides walking up a stream on the side of a mountain in a national forest and feeling like you're in a jungle, the USA is a major :thumbdown:.

Of course this is a subjective statement that it sucks, and I like other people might not.

Conversely I'd probably enjoy walking around the UK (even some boring farm town for a little while), so you will probably find the USA interesting. Problem is the USA is highly undeveloped in certain areas, such as public infrastructure, and very dangerous in specific areas (certain neighborhoods in Chicago, LA, etc). The only way to travel the entire 3k mile width is by a rented car or plane. A train hilariously enough would be as much as a plane, and take over 48 hours to cross the width.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Le0n]
    #26885443 - 08/17/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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and take over 48 hours to cross the width.




The size is absurd, lol. Obviously I see the extreme of that being in Texas, but depending on which direction I'm going, it can take me 9 hours driving just to get out of Texas :lol:

Even when I go to Big Bend National Park, that is in Texas -- I could leave from Dallas and it still takes me like 8 and a half hours to get there...and I'm still in the same state when I reach my destination!!

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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26885456 - 08/17/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Word, it would take me over 8 hours to drive from Austin to El Paso.  So it'd be about a 16 hour drive from El Paso to Louisiana.  Ridic..


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: 1234go]
    #26885480 - 08/17/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There might be some states known as "fly over states". Do proceed with caution.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26885689 - 08/17/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

@JSB: I think the heat is miserable for one thing. I don't necessarily despise the south, but it has a lot of negatives for me. Southern culture I guess. I love the coast, and mild winters. On thinking about it more you do love Australia, and aren't some parts of Australia like the southern USA more or less? :shrug:

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There might be some states known as "fly over states". Do proceed with caution.



Also this.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26885697 - 08/17/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Virgina?


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26885744 - 08/17/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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@JSB: I think the heat is miserable for one thing.




The heat is miserable, I agree. I hate it. I've spent most of my life in TX and I'm ready to put it behind me and experience a new long term change of scenery. Somewhere mountainous. Like northwest Wyoming, or Colorado, or Montana, or New Mexico...hell even Alaska intrigues me. God the landscape is so epic up there...it's just man, those winters are on another level...


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Le0n]
    #26885769 - 08/17/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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aren't some parts of Australia like the southern USA more or less?



Mmmmmm.. not really. I mean, to look at perhaps, and the major industries and such. People are much more friendly (and racist to boot). That's where the similarities end though IME.

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Honestly bro, the USA is only good for working a high-paying job, or seeking capital heavy investors like if you're starting the next Tesla. Everything else here sucks, and I might eventually leave but this is the only place I can make 400k a year in without owning a company. Besides walking up a stream on the side of a mountain in a national forest and feeling like you're in a jungle, the USA is a major :thumbdown:.



I really really agree with this. America is not a good place to live if one values depth and openness of emotion and human closeness and connection. In fact it's the worst place I've ever been for these things.

Amazing place to make money though, if that's your thing. Like nowhere else in that regard.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26885774 - 08/17/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd go for NC myself; the deep south is my favorite part of the country by far. Oregon - whilst being 'progressive' - was too far up its own ass due to the fact, IMO.





Portland and the rest of Oregon are like two completely different states. Lots of right-leaning Trump supporters in rural areas. Oregon was originally founded as a white-only state, and that mindset definitely still permeates some areas.

That being said, my vote is for WA state if you're considering Oregon. No state income tax.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: BigPapaMushroom]
    #26885796 - 08/17/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I thought Eugene was more up its own ass that Portland.

Perhaps if you live around there, but as a visitor it was much of a muchness.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26885908 - 08/17/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Northern California is pretty awesome. We have everything you could want within like a 2 hour drive or closer. We have lots of car break-ins, but it's no big deal. As long as you don't leave a backpack visible then you should be fine. There are lots of homeless people too, but a lot of them are cool hippie types. There are mentally ill too, but just don't hang out under the bridges and you'll be fine.

San Diego is really fun too if you like the beach life.

Michigan was cool, except winter. Wouldn't even consider the midwest at all though, unless you like corn farming. NE is cold, rainy, and rude people everywhere. The South East is the worst area and the West is the Best IMO! If I were you then I would take 2 or 3 weeks to drive the West Coast and see where you land.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #26885918 - 08/18/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Northern California is awesome and if it wasn't governed by California's I'd say it would be a fair option. I'll never live in California again personally. Oregon is cool for sure. You can be a yuppie hipster all over the state if that's your thing but it's not all hipster douchebags like people tend to think (nor is it very racist anymore, I've seen substantially more mixed race families here than anywhere in California) . Honestly this country is not that great I'm not sure what motivated you to consider the states but if your set on it look into the high deserts in the southwest. 4 seasons all mild and very slow pace.

Bisbee Arizona
Prescott Arizona
Anywhere rural in New Mexico
Anywhere in Southern Utah (your sexuality may be judged there but even in Salt Lake city and Provo its not ultra mormony like it used to be.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: pur3bind]
    #26886027 - 08/18/20 04:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Oregon.
Colorado.
Northern California.

Anymore, anyone?



You have to be rich and liberal to move to those states.

I don't think there's anything that satisfies 100% of what OP wants. I know which states I want to move to, but I'm not about to go around advertising them.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #26886105 - 08/18/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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just don't hang out under the bridges and you'll be fine.




What, no hanging out under bridges??

What kinda fucked up place it that?

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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26886155 - 08/18/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I hadn't thought of Northern California, might look into that a bit further. I love everything about San Francisco except for the people. If it's a bit cooler further north and the people are different that could work.

Although I like the climate and forests of the west coast I'm not sure about the mega-thrust earthquake thing. Seems like they're about 50 years behind Japan in alerts and protection.

NC sounds good so far, they also have Biscuitvilles which I've always wanted to visit.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26886156 - 08/18/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Northern California is awesome and if it wasn't governed by California's I'd say it would be a fair option. I'll never live in California again personally. Oregon is cool for sure. You can be a yuppie hipster all over the state if that's your thing but it's not all hipster douchebags like people tend to think (nor is it very racist anymore, I've seen substantially more mixed race families here than anywhere in California) . Honestly this country is not that great I'm not sure what motivated you to consider the states but if your set on it look into the high deserts in the southwest. 4 seasons all mild and very slow pace.

Bisbee Arizona
Prescott Arizona
Anywhere rural in New Mexico
Anywhere in Southern Utah (your sexuality may be judged there but even in Salt Lake city and Provo its not ultra mormony like it used to be.




Aren't these basically sneaky deserts disguised by a few trees? I always thought these states were just an extension of Death Valley. I can't be dealing with too much heat.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
    #26886163 - 08/18/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If you're gay you don't want to be in NC. Maybe Boulder Colorado, Newpaltz NY, or Salem Massachusetts.



Lmao dont listen to this dude, always making super generalizations. Prolly saw southern state and said 'oh no they hate da gays in da souf they are rednecks'.

I lived in the south my whole life and any cities like asheville, charelston SC, shit like that, are packed to the brim with young radical liberals, gays, trannies, that type of crowd. They outnumber every over demographic in leaps and bounds. And obv anywhere with a college/university. The general conservative nature of the south should offset it enough that p much anywhere in north carolina should be exactly what you are looking for. Temperate for the most part, winters arent crazy, summers arent crazy, very forested, near some cities but nothing major, not super suburby either, not super rural but still very naturey. Prolly is exactl what youre looking for. Ive never lived in oregon but I hear it's suuuuuper crazy liberal, and it's also unbelievably expensive. But idrk.


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    #26886164 - 08/18/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Arizona has a lot of high elevation towns that have forested landscapes. Bisbee is a bit more arid but the summers are 85 to 95f whereas the desert floor can reach 120f. Winter in Bisbee is amazing. New Mexico is mostly high elevation and has the southern rockies and landscapes similar to Colorado in many ways but different in many other. The star gazing alone is among some of the best in the country.


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    #26886171 - 08/18/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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America is not a good place to live if one values depth and openness of emotion and human closeness and connection. In fact it's the worst place I've ever been for these things.

Amazing place to make money though.



Not to say anything, but iirc you came to america only to make money and with a pre-concieved notion that you were not a fan of the country. Not exactly at a great starting point for developing a comfortable life in a new country and getting well acquainted with its citizens... I havent had any problem finding, if anyhting, an uncomfortable abundance of depth and openess of emotion in america. Maybe the problem might be you, and not the whole country? :shrug: if youre just gonna use our country to line your euro pockets at least dont be an asshole about it.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26886174 - 08/18/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I had no preconceived notions before I came here Dylan. My opinions were formed after living here.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26886176 - 08/18/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I could obviously find an ocean of quotes that wouldnt support that...


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26886177 - 08/18/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Go start a thread about it.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26886227 - 08/18/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If you're gay you don't want to be in NC. Maybe Boulder Colorado, Newpaltz NY, or Salem Massachusetts.



Lmao dont listen to this dude, always making super generalizations. Prolly saw southern state and said 'oh no they hate da gays in da souf they are rednecks'.

I lived in the south my whole life and any cities like asheville, charelston SC, shit like that, are packed to the brim with young radical liberals, gays, trannies, that type of crowd. They outnumber every over demographic in leaps and bounds. And obv anywhere with a college/university. The general conservative nature of the south should offset it enough that p much anywhere in north carolina should be exactly what you are looking for. Temperate for the most part, winters arent crazy, summers arent crazy, very forested, near some cities but nothing major, not super suburby either, not super rural but still very naturey. Prolly is exactl what youre looking for. Ive never lived in oregon but I hear it's suuuuuper crazy liberal, and it's also unbelievably expensive. But idrk.




Sounds good. I had checked out Asheville (on google maps lol) but will have a look at Charelston too. I look forward to visiting when they sort out a vaccine, hopefully by next summer.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.]
    #26886241 - 08/18/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Northern California is awesome and if it wasn't governed by California's I'd say it would be a fair option. I'll never live in California again personally. Oregon is cool for sure. You can be a yuppie hipster all over the state if that's your thing but it's not all hipster douchebags like people tend to think (nor is it very racist anymore, I've seen substantially more mixed race families here than anywhere in California) . Honestly this country is not that great I'm not sure what motivated you to consider the states but if your set on it look into the high deserts in the southwest. 4 seasons all mild and very slow pace.

Bisbee Arizona
Prescott Arizona
Anywhere rural in New Mexico
Anywhere in Southern Utah (your sexuality may be judged there but even in Salt Lake city and Provo its not ultra mormony like it used to be.




Aren't these basically sneaky deserts disguised by a few trees? I always thought these states were just an extension of Death Valley. I can't be dealing with too much heat.




Short answer -- no. That would be 100% wrong. I actually kinda thought the same about Arizona before driving through some of it, stunned to see vast forests and even a snow capped peak in the distance looking out my car window.

And I just got back from New Mexico and where I was I may as well have been in Colorado. New Mexico has ski resorts, man. So no lol it's not an extension of death valley :lol:


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.]
    #26886243 - 08/18/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you come to CO let me know.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26886263 - 08/18/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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North Carolina is a good choice. The people who are saying don't move to NC if you're gay don't live in NC :lol: It's full of the gays.

Asheville area would be fantastic for you. College town, but not so far liberal that you'll hate it. Fayetteville is nice, too.

The only downside to North Carolina is everybody drives between 40 and 80 MPH in the left lane. I'd much prefer to drive in West LA than any freeway in NC.








Love Asheville.


My dad's half of the family lives in and around Charlotte and it seems like a super nice, solid area. Prices are so much cheaper compared to up North, but idk if they still reflect that - seems like the area has been coming up and changing a lot so it might not be quite a budgeter's dream anymore.


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@JSB: I think the heat is miserable for one thing.




The heat is miserable, I agree. I hate it. I've spent most of my life in TX and I'm ready to put it behind me and experience a new long term change of scenery. Somewhere mountainous. Like northwest Wyoming, or Colorado, or Montana, or New Mexico...hell even Alaska intrigues me. God the landscape is so epic up there...it's just man, those winters are on another level...








I've spent most of my life in PA and I'm done with it too - PA isn't a hellscape though climate wise, it's really just pretty middle of the road :lol:. And it's gonna be tough because my immediate family is all here, and we all live all over eastern PA and it somehow manages to be a very central location for everyone. Probably wouldn't be for a few years but idk. I'm less thrilled about living around people than ever.

I want the mountains and the sea, so the PNW has always seemed like a nice place to settle down, but seems expensive. Hard to pigeon hole myself anywhere though, at this point. For all I know I'll end up finding the perfect property in PA and just getting stuck here forever :facepalm:.


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    #26886272 - 08/18/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I want the mountains and the sea, so the PNW has always seemed like a nice place to settle down, but seems expensive.




Oh gosh yes the PNW is amazing. Majestic. It does feel beyond a realistic price range for myself though. Anything remotely close to the Pacific coast feels that way to me actually. I'll have to browse some of listings though just to kinda get a feel and see if there's anything out there that would be realistically within range.

But yes pound for pound when it comes to the beauty of the landscape it's pretty difficult to beat.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Niffla]
    #26886313 - 08/18/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just out of curiosity, what do you guys mean by some place being "too liberal"?

What does that mean in a practical sense?


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26886339 - 08/18/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Just out of curiosity, what do you guys mean by some place being "too liberal"?

What does that mean in a practical sense?




I was thinking stuff like not having a police force because they defunded it, not being able to go to Wendy's because someone firebombed it, not being able to get your drivers license because of a tent commune blockading the entrance and stepping in human poop because they abolished laws to stop homeless people crapping on the sidewalk.

I've not lived there yet though so I don't really know.


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    #26886342 - 08/18/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Lmao i can assure you that no matter where you go in america and how 'defunded' the police are there, you will be shocked at the level of police presence and activity. Not enough police and cops not taking action will definitely not be problems you'll face here lmao. Will certainly be the opposite.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26886358 - 08/18/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Lmao i can assure you that no matter where you go in america and how 'defunded' the police are there, you will be shocked at the level of police presence and activity. Not enough police and cops not taking action will definitely not be problems you'll face here lmao. Will certainly be the opposite.



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    #26886453 - 08/18/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I want the mountains and the sea, so the PNW has always seemed like a nice place to settle down, but seems expensive.




Oh gosh yes the PNW is amazing. Majestic. It does feel beyond a realistic price range for myself though. Anything remotely close to the Pacific coast feels that way to me actually. I'll have to browse some of listings though just to kinda get a feel and see if there's anything out there that would be realistically within range.

But yes pound for pound when it comes to the beauty of the landscape it's pretty difficult to beat.



Get away from the city centers. I live in the biggest house I've ever rented and pay the least I've ever paid for rent. With an ocean view and can hear waves if the windows are open. It's VERY hard to find housing but if you can find it this is an easy pace to make it as a commoner. My rent is 1400 a month for a 2 bed 2 bath 2 story house with a yard a garage and ocean views from every room. This house in Southern California for instance would fetch easily 4k a month. Food for thought.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.]
    #26886731 - 08/18/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I was thinking stuff like not having a police force because they defunded it, not being able to go to Wendy's because someone firebombed it, not being able to get your drivers license because of a tent commune blockading the entrance and stepping in human poop because they abolished laws to stop homeless people crapping on the sidewalk.

I've not lived there yet though so I don't really know.





You're overthinking this...

There are cops everywhere, and they'll be here for a long time to come.

ONE Wendy's restaurant was destroyed.  There are many more, and other restaurants to enjoy.

Homeless camps will never be blocking any government building, and you'll be able to get your license when you need it.


What else are you worried about?


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: 1234go]
    #26886748 - 08/18/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Massachusetts, North Hampton area.  Winters can suck though and its a progressive/liberal area if that's turn off.  Western Mass in the Berkshires is great if a job isn't a necessity.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.]
    #26886871 - 08/18/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Contemplating a move from the UK to the US and first step is figuring out possible locations. Work is not a problem so it's all about a nice place to live.

- definitely prefer temperate climate but would like decent summers
- love forests, hate deserts and long winters
- want to avoid liberal cities full of homeless people or carjackers e.g. LA, Seattle
- also gay so don't want to be stalked by fundie nutters, basically want neighbors who would be happy to say hello and then leave us alone
- don't want city life but don't want isolation or small town vibes either. Suburbs or semi-rural near a small city perhaps?

So far I'm thinking Oregon or North Carolina... am I on the right track... any suggestions?




Oregon is definitely a good choice. I love it here. Beaches, Coast, Forests, Lakes, Rivers, Mountains, Farm Land, it has a little of everything. Also Washington is a cool state too, similar to Oregon but more populated.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #26889874 - 08/20/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If you are gay don't move to the south unless it's next to a big city.  Lots of repressed st8 discreet pound my ass while my wife is at work types.

Most idealistic places have a high cost of living attached and any decent sized city so have homeless and desperate poor people. That's kinda a staple in the US.

I would suggest Oregon, I love Portland as a city and the surrounding area is great, several gay nude beaches and lots of gay culture.




Nobody gives a shit if your gay. You can fuck whoever you want in the privacy of your own home. You might have problems if you expect everyone to bow down to your homosexuality and have special celebrations just for you, if you demand your local school board to have cross dressers teaching first graders, or if you and your friend want to roam the neighborhood looking like the Village People. Most Americans, even conservatives, don’t care what you do as long as you do it behind closed doors.


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Re: Moving to the USA - which state? [Re: mm.]
    #26889999 - 08/20/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, you would do great in anywhere but Portland in Oregon.  North Carolina sounds great.  South Carolina not so much.  Enjoy it.  :shrug:

Shit man, everything is income. 

Move to Newport Beach, CA.  Where I would go.


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