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A few beginner questions please!
    #26883997 - 08/16/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Firstly, thank you for the wisdom.

1. If I have 7 cakes the size of (1/4 pint, 4 oz), is a 70qt tub ideal for the SGFC for these cakes? Is this too large, too small?

2. Are you supposed to dunk 4 oz cakes for the same time (24 hrs) as 8 oz cakes?

3. Before setting this fruiting chamber, is it best to clean it/sanitize it with alcohol? Or just water?

4. Is it best to bake your vermiculite before rolling? Also, I left the vermiculite unsealed/open air for around 12 hours by accident, is this a big deal?

Thanks folks


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26884005 - 08/16/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

hey man u dont have to keep making new threads everytime u get a question we will happily answer your questions in thread u start first. all these threads for the same damn gow arent needed so plz pick a thread and stick with it already 

1. use your best judgement on what u want just cuz u have 7 this time what if u want 18 next time why build a new fc??

2 well they are half the size so id go half the time

3 no but dont be a slob so just clean it your cakes will be colonized u can scratch your ass then pick them up and it aint gnna matter

4 i never did but it cant hurt anythkng its not needed but if it makes u feel better then do it


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884041 - 08/16/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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hey man u dont have to keep making new threads everytime u get a question we will happily answer your questions in thread u start first. all these threads for the same damn gow arent needed so plz pick a thread and stick with it already 

1. use your best judgement on what u want just cuz u have 7 this time what if u want 18 next time why build a new fc??

2 well they are half the size so id go half the time

3 no but dont be a slob so just clean it your cakes will be colonized u can scratch your ass then pick them up and it aint gnna matter

4 i never did but it cant hurt anythkng its not needed but if it makes u feel better then do it




I have no judgement dude, that's why I'm asking here. It sounds like you're very opinionated but do not have much confidence in regards to questions 2 and 3. Don't really understand.

Does anyone else know these questions for sure?

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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26884044 - 08/16/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Are you following a tek that requires 1/4 pints? I've always seen 1/2 pint jars used for brf cakes. It's a lot simpler if you can just follow a tek and learn from someone who has already figured all of this stuff out. If no one on the boards has any experience with 1/4 pint cakes you'll just have to figure it out for yourself.


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26884057 - 08/16/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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hey man u dont have to keep making new threads everytime u get a question we will happily answer your questions in thread u start first. all these threads for the same damn gow arent needed so plz pick a thread and stick with it already 

1. use your best judgement on what u want just cuz u have 7 this time what if u want 18 next time why build a new fc??

2 well they are half the size so id go half the time

3 no but dont be a slob so just clean it your cakes will be colonized u can scratch your ass then pick them up and it aint gnna matter

4 i never did but it cant hurt anythkng its not needed but if it makes u feel better then do it




I have no judgement dude, that's why I'm asking here. It sounds like you're very opinionated but do not have much confidence in regards to questions 2 and 3. Don't really understand.

Does anyone else know these questions for sure?

tysm




dude shall i go fetch every single thread to prove my point. im telling u that we will be more than happy to help u but u dont need 30 fucking threads for the same grow and questions about shit for that grow all your doing by doing that is making it harder on the ppl that actually use the fucking search engine by making a ton of threads that dont need to be there. all u gtta do is have 1 thread man i know for a fact im not the only one to notice this here. i want u to succeed here man but so far your not very good at reading comprehension. as all of this has been covered a million times before and even some of your questions from you have become redundant

oh and 2 and 3 are kinda common sense answers  🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884076 - 08/16/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ if ud dunk a 8oz cake for 24 hours how long would u dunk a 4 oz cake?? the answer is 12hrs 4 is half of 8 and 12 is half of 24 where was the confusion in the response i gave u to that question?? i wasnt giving any opinion on anything just a simple common sense to the point answer.


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884137 - 08/17/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ if ud dunk a 8oz cake for 24 hours how long would u dunk a 4 oz cake?? the answer is 12hrs 4 is half of 8 and 12 is half of 24 where was the confusion in the response i gave u to that question?? i wasnt giving any opinion on anything just a simple common sense to the point answer.




lol calm down dude we're all here to help eachother.. you're taking this forum way too seriously.

That isn't common sense because you're assuming water absorption is based on size not material.. jesus man relax

Anyone else got input?


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26884168 - 08/17/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

He's right about what he says, he's just a dick about it. :lol: its a right of passage, dont mind him.
I used 1/4 pint jars my first grow because they were already there and they didnt pan out. they dried out too much. If i were to do it now i would bury them in coir in shoeboxes to keep them from drying out.

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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26884283 - 08/17/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

first off im not being a dick about it so go fuck yourself for sayin that. did i ever call u a names and right now i kinda feel like it but still not gnna go there as much as id like to.  i never resorted to name calling. its just that there is no need to beat around the bush and prolong these kind of questions that can be easily answered by simply using common sense along with the search engine and putting in 5 min worth of reading. who knows in that 5 min you may even learn something else. god damn you soft fragile ppl with your muh feelings bullshit. im tryin to help you but its frustrating when u dont even wanna help yourself. we see this same shit over and over and over again. this search engine here is awsum you can basicly talk to it and ask it questions and when you dont even try to use it that really shows your character and proves that your absolutely lazy and just basicly want ppl to do it for you without takin the the time to at least try to find the info. hell you can even lie and say i cant seem to find this info but it seems your too lazy to even do that. this isnt about feelings here ppl im a direct and to the point kinda guy. all of my posts are made via my phone mostly while im at work so forgive me if i dont write a 1,000 word gender neutral non micro aggression containing compliment filled reply to something. but i answered his questions with the detail they were warranted. all i asked was to pick a thread and keep it. i dont care if he asks a hundred questions a day in the same thread thats fine but u dont need a new thread for every single question regarding the same grow is all i was getting at.


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26884284 - 08/17/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I feel I could start studying astrophysics, invent a time machine, travel to the year 3657, purchase a book called "Fisher Price's Baby's First Step-by-Step Psilocybin Mushroom Grow and Follow Along" come back here, transpose every image and word and then struggle to get you to understand basic concepts about this shit man.

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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884288 - 08/17/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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first off im not being a dick about it so go fuck yourself for sayin that. did i ever call u a names and right now i kinda feel like it but still not gnna go there as much as id like to.  i never resorted to name calling. its just that there is no need to beat around the bush and prolong these kind of questions that can be easily answered by simply using common sense along with the search engine and putting in 5 min worth of reading. who knows in that 5 min you may even learn something else. god damn you soft fragile ppl with your muh feelings bullshit. im tryin to help you but its frustrating when u dont even wanna help yourself. we see this same shit over and over and over again. this search engine here is awsum you can basicly talk to it and ask it questions and when you dont even try to use it that really shows your character and proves that your absolutely lazy and just basicly want ppl to do it for you without takin the the time to at least try to find the info. hell you can even lie and say i cant seem to find this info but it seems your too lazy to even do that. this isnt about feelings here ppl im a direct and to the point kinda guy. all of my posts are made via my phone mostly while im at work so forgive me if i dont write a 1,000 word gender neutral non micro aggression containing compliment filled reply to something. but i answered his questions with the detail they were warranted. all i asked was to pick a thread and keep it. i dont care if he asks a hundred questions a day in the same thread thats fine but u dont need a new thread for every single question regarding the same grow is all i was getting at.




I've started scrolling and looking at the names of the poster that posted the thread just to see what silly questions are being asked by good ole Rick


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: Wall.E]
    #26884314 - 08/17/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

its not even really a matter of silly questions. its more so a matter of general information that is 9 times out of 10 contained within the tek info its self and if not it sure as shit can be found with little to no effort via the search engine. id say when getting into cultivation 90% of the time put into a first grow is usually research and reading what others have gone thru and experienced and the results they produced. there was nothing mean about my answers not the answers nor the intent behind them. the only frustration expressed is the fact that there is no need for a new thread for every single question regarding the same grow was my basic point


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884325 - 08/17/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Jcm is right.

Rickomalley - if you followed a tek then you wouldn’t have so many questions as to why it’s going wrong. Follow the tek. What PF tek uses 1/4 pint jars ? None so why are you basing your learning off of an unproven tek ?


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884332 - 08/17/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I guess he didn't see trusted cultivator...🤷🏻‍♂️


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: CagedApe]
    #26884343 - 08/17/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

its not even the matter of a tc tag or not i can be wrong just like everyone else and i often am thats life. but a lil common sense goes a long long ways also as in life. its hard to help those who dont wish to help themselves. and i agree i often see ppl saying oh that tek sucks and didnt work then u find out they didnt really even follow it and they used it as a guideline for some unproven off the wall grade school level science project. but had they actually followed the tek as written they most likely would have results to show for it. not that 1/4 pints wont work but thats prolly the only jars that were available at the 1 store he prolly went to. cuz if he cant put in the effort to read why would he put in effort to go hunt down the correct supplies needed


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884350 - 08/17/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A lot can be done with a solid foundation and understanding of mycology. Like jcm said, you can follow a tek and fuck it up because you forgot a detail. The first run I ever did was the mudafucka tek I think? It was brown rice, dog food, oats, wheat bran and some other shit. I wound up fucking up the cooking process, the substrate came out sopping wet and it didn't seem right. I said "fuck it, its what the tek called for" and inoculated with mss syringes bought off a website.

I felt like something wasn't right and kept looking at pictures of colonized jars and was thinking my shit was too wet. I didn't have anymore oats or brown rice (pandemic supermarkets being out of food) but I had popcorn. So I came up with my own recipe based off that other one and inoculated those.

The jars I improvised colonized and the others just sat. Didn't even contam out, just nothing.

The next experiment I did was agaim just my own that I wanted to try off spent brew grains. Those turned out fantastic.

I'm not saykng I'm any better than anyone, but I am saying that a lot of research and understanding helped me with a lot of stupid questions and some hard ones and I just don't think this rick guy is going to be in the same boat ever based off his track record.


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: Wall.E]
    #26884364 - 08/17/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

well i wish everyone success i really really do and im not even concerned with the questions asked even. im more bothered by the responses givin to the answers that were givin to the questions. i think they were pretty basic questions that deserved basic common sense answers. and if the asker isnt gnna take the time to look it up on his own when its something that can be found in 20 sec by usuing the search engine why should i take my time to give a long drawn out answer but especially when its something like that🤷🏼 i was only concerned with the fact that a new thread need not be started each question about the same grow is all. i and many many others are happy to help someone along and and answer all questions and then as a result that info is better contained for the next guy who may actually take it upon himself to use the search engine and find said information is all.


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884373 - 08/17/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

but just cuz im to the point and direct dont make me a dick. im here to help ppl grow mushrooms and to learn to grow mushrooms and learn about all aspects of cultivation and psychedelics ect. not to powder asses and be your mommy or best buddy but if i make some cool friends here along the way hey all the better and i have met several ppl here who in so many ways have been a positive influence in my life in even more ways than just cultivation. but i also challenge anyone to say that i ever blew them off or ignored a direct question by pm or even in a thread i will always take the time to help someone who asks for help no matter how redundant or basic it may be cuz i was once that guy and im thankful to the ppl who were the exact same way to me cuz it allowed me to learn and to make the effort required and im better off now as a result of it. there is no ill will here man simply just tryin to get ya to put in the effort is all and to keep it in one place so its easier for the next guy


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26884403 - 08/17/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There’s a few people on here that stress out over minor details, of which there are many. It’s kinda fascinating to me I guess because I’m almost the opposite but I can’t imagine going through life with that mindset. And I’m not talking shit at all here, everyone is different.

Just don’t be afraid of failure. It’s gonna happen, you’re gonna learn from it, and you’re gonna do better the next time.

Also keep in mind that cubes grow very easily. Ime it’s pretty hard to not grow them. When I started I thought they were way more delicate than they are, but as time went on and I saw how well busted old dried out subs I left in the corner and forgot about flushed I realized they’re crazy resilient.

Another thing is that there’s a lot of perfectionists on here. When I started out I was positive only a small percentage of my jars would survive because of what I’d read. Truth is it’s important to be clean and careful but even if you mess up or something gets bacteria it’s not a total loss. I had it drilled into my mind that anything not executed perfectly would contam out and fail but that’s not the case. It won’t be as good as a clean grow but it’ll work way more often then you’d think.

That said, I’m not a fan of cakes. I’ve said it a million times but shoeboxes should be the beginners grow. They’re so much more forgiving, at least in my experience. Op you should try shredding a couple cakes into coir in a small Tupperware or something and run it alongside the cakes.

And with a SGFC you want it as full as possible, with the cakes close together to create microclimate. So keep that in mind when you’re picking a size.


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Re: A few beginner questions please! [Re: A.k.a]
    #26884561 - 08/17/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Jcm - Please stop blabbering on my thread dude, I appreciate the answers but I'm looking for other input as you're just blabbering, man. If you want to be a mod so much maybe try to apply or ask an admin or something? Just don't poop on my threads please and thanks :smile:

myc_hunt - Stop being a dick. It gets you nowhere, it gets me nowhere, and these questions aren't foolish just because you think they are. We get it, you're self-righteous and "holier-than-thou," hence why when I called you out on reddit for your lack of experience you admitted to being a dick, and here you are reforming to old habits. I try to stay courteous with you, but man, you ask for it sometimes bud.

CrashTest - It is not that I didn't follow this tek to a tee, in-fact I did not realize using 1/4 pint jars is not "following the tek," I did do quite a lot of research and others, like RR, said 1/4 pint jars work, so that is what I went with as that is what I had.

A.k.a - Thanks, dude. I'm sure these small detail questions are overthinking, but still I believe it's a viable question to wonder whether to dunk the 1/4 pints for 24 hours or not, and the SGFC size, etc. Still unsure how long to dunk, but I will attempt to figure that out.


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