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Questioning some assumptions
    #2688398 - 05/16/04 09:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

With the news of these prisoner abuses, I've realized recently that I've just immediately made a couple of assumptions--I think because it was generally held/assumed by the mainstream. I thought I'd put them out to see if anyone questions them as well:

1) At first I assumed that Bush shouldn't be held responsible really at all for these actions since he is on the opposite end of the chain-of-command ladder from the people who were committing these acts. But in a way, isn't he responsible for putting everything into such black and white terms when he talks about politics? "These people are members of the axis of EVIL...they hate our freedom" and the idea that these factions in Iraq are the overwhelming minority and simply evildoer terrorists. Thus, the military people see these guys at less than human, not fighting for any real cause, just evil.

2) Having said that, is what they did really that bad? I mean, I haven't seen ALL of the pictures, but when you consider that one of those neat and tidy smart bombs can easily kill 10-50(?) people in one bomb and some figures say we have killed upwards of 8-10,000 iraqis, is humiliating 20 or so of them during an interrogation process really THAT relatively bad? I mean I know its bad, I sure as hell wouldnt want it done to me, but when we're talking about a war where people are dying every day all the time--embarassment is a hell of a lot better than dying, no?

I acknowledge that regardless, it was definately a bad move politically as it seems like we have lost just about all the remaining credibility we had.


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Re: Questioning some assumptions [Re: Tao]
    #2690803 - 05/17/04 12:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

not a single response? anyone think either of these points?


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