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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead] 1
#26883006 - 08/16/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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HamHead said: nah, doctors are free from liability, remember?
Also, it's difficult to separate those pesky DNA/RNA viruses in that porcine gelatin.
NO, it's not, doctors carry massive liability insurance for malpractice, I work at a place that makes oligos, we routinely separate out impurites using a variety of means, not impossible at all. More proof you are an idiot. Also, thinking of you wasting time to look shit up to make a point cracks me up. Also you never answer my questions, like do Leukocytes explode releasing whatever is in them once in the brain, glossed right over that and turned the argument to something different, Deflect much. 
Edit: vaccine liability act does not cover cases of criminal neglect, malfeasance or malpractice. In those cases the maker of the vaccine pays.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
#26883021 - 08/16/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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HamHead said: nah, doctors are free from liability, remember?
Also, it's difficult to separate those pesky DNA/RNA viruses in that porcine gelatin.
NO, it's not, doctors carry massive liability insurance for malpractice, I work at a place that makes oligos, we routinely separate out impurites using a variety of means, not impossible at all. More proof you are an idiot. Also, thinking of you wasting time to look shit up to make a point cracks me up. Also you never answer my questions, like do Leukocytes explode releasing whatever is in them once in the brain, glossed right over that and turned the argument to something different, Deflect much. 
For malpractice, yes, you are correct. They are released from liabilities when administrating vaccines, which is my point.
And I didn't gloss over anything, I posted how MF remain in an inflamed brain, they don't have to 'explode' to release their toxins, they themselves are aluminum containing toxins.
I can paste it again incase you ignored it the first and second time I posted that particular section.
Of, fuck it. Here it is again, because I'm hammer, and nails need beating in.
http://vaccinepapers.org/vaccine-aluminum-travels-to-the-brain/
"What actually happens is a type of immune cell called a macrophage (MF) ingests (called “phagocytosis”) the AANs. Eating foreign material is a primary function of MFs. When MFs detect bacteria or debris, the MFs eat it, and destroy it with enzymes.
The problem is that AANs are not digested by the MF enzymes. Consequently, the AANs remain inside the MFs for a long time. The AANs can persist for years. MFs that consume the AANs become highly contaminated with aluminum, and spread the aluminum wherever they go. And they go everywhere in the body.
The MFs travel across the blood brain barrier (BBB) when there is inflammation in the brain. The MFs, once loaded with AANs, act like a Trojan Horse and carry the AANs into the brain. This is harmful, because the brain is very sensitive to aluminum."
-------------------- The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited, but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders https://www.icandecide.org/
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9] 1
#26883022 - 08/16/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bet you my left nut he is currently digging some more on the interwebz for "proof" your wrong (i.e. posting 8 pages of irrelevant articles to try to make a point he doesnt even know in the first place), for Ham does not sleep he simply saves the world one post at a time
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Psicomb]
#26883029 - 08/16/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psicomvb said: I bet you my left nut he is currently digging some more on the interwebz for "proof" your wrong (i.e. posting 8 pages of irrelevant articles to try to make a point he doesnt even know in the first place), for Ham does not sleep he simply saves the world one post at a time
Edit: yep
I want your left nut then, because I haven't looked anything up today, yet. I simply pulled from a previously posted link, see?
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
#26883036 - 08/16/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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HamHead said:
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Ice9 said:
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HamHead said: nah, doctors are free from liability, remember?
Also, it's difficult to separate those pesky DNA/RNA viruses in that porcine gelatin.
NO, it's not, doctors carry massive liability insurance for malpractice, I work at a place that makes oligos, we routinely separate out impurites using a variety of means, not impossible at all. More proof you are an idiot. Also, thinking of you wasting time to look shit up to make a point cracks me up. Also you never answer my questions, like do Leukocytes explode releasing whatever is in them once in the brain, glossed right over that and turned the argument to something different, Deflect much. 
For malpractice, yes, you are correct. They are released from liabilities when administrating vaccines, which is my point.
And I didn't gloss over anything, I posted how MF remain in an inflamed brain, they don't have to 'explode' to release their toxins, they themselves are aluminum containing toxins.
I can paste it again incase you ignored it the first and second time I posted that particular section.
Of, fuck it. Here it is again, because I'm hammer, and nails need beating in.
http://vaccinepapers.org/vaccine-aluminum-travels-to-the-brain/
"What actually happens is a type of immune cell called a macrophage (MF) ingests (called “phagocytosis”) the AANs. Eating foreign material is a primary function of MFs. When MFs detect bacteria or debris, the MFs eat it, and destroy it with enzymes.
The problem is that AANs are not digested by the MF enzymes. Consequently, the AANs remain inside the MFs for a long time. The AANs can persist for years. MFs that consume the AANs become highly contaminated with aluminum, and spread the aluminum wherever they go. And they go everywhere in the body.
The MFs travel across the blood brain barrier (BBB) when there is inflammation in the brain. The MFs, once loaded with AANs, act like a Trojan Horse and carry the AANs into the brain. This is harmful, because the brain is very sensitive to aluminum."
For damage to be caused the MF (Leukocyte) needs to release it's payload of AAN's into the brain, you have provided nothing that shows this happens or is capable of happening. Otherwise the AANs are safely contained in MF and cannot do damage as MOA of damage is direct action Al3+
Also clarify inflammation of brain, we talking serious illness/TBI or everyday inflammatory responses to stress. My guess would be option 1, where microglia where not sufficient to protect brain so body recruited a generalized immune response in brain via select pathways. I have paper for this, not posted in some dumpster level tier 4 Journal, but in JAMA but I'll let you look it up.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
#26883164 - 08/16/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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See, tbis is how I get into these rabbit holes.
Gotta go look up leukocyte and their functions.
Unless, you can save me some Forbes level research of tier 4 papers and share your knowledge on this subject of aluminum adjuvants and how they get into a sensitive, infant brain.
Key word that should not be overlooked here.
Infant brain.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead] 2
#26883169 - 08/16/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That should be the name of this thread
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#26883179 - 08/16/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC496969/
How do you think they found MF in infant brains...Necropsy of course. So safe to assume so secere illness/TBI/SIDS were involved in all infant deaths, with possible disruption of the BBB, not to mention the MFs were mostly found in the geminal matrix zone and and other parts that make up the BBB, very few were found beyond the last layer of the BBB.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
#26883216 - 08/16/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Immunohistochemical reactions for macrophages, microglia, and HLA-DR antigens were tested on frozen sections of necropsy brain tissue from 20 fetuses and infants ranging in age from 18 weeks' gestation to 8 months post term. No primary central nervous system disease was present but there were four cases of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Macrophages were detected in all the samples studied and were located in the germinal matrix zone, in perivascular spaces throughout the brain, and in the leptomeninges and subependymal layer. Well differentiated microglia were present in all cases examined after 35 weeks' gestation and less well ramified forms were seen at earlier stages of gestation. HLA-DR antigens were detected on a small number of macrophages, chiefly in a perivascular location, in all but three cases. The fewest reactive cells and the weakest reactions occurred in the youngest fetuses. One case of SIDS showed increased foci of microglia in perivascular white matter: this case and one other case of SIDS were the only cases with well ramified microglia that expressed HLA-DR antigens. These findings may be relevant to an understanding of local immune responses in fetal brain infections, including human immunodeficiency virus infection.
Throughout?
Good read. Thanks.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
#26883230 - 08/16/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don’t understand what you’re reading
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#26883234 - 08/16/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Perivascular not in brain, in CNS vascular structure, which is guarded by take a guess, the BBB
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
#26883275 - 08/16/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Medical Definition of perivascular : of, relating to, occurring in, or being the tissues surrounding a blood vessel
Types Perivascular spaces are divided into three main types 4:
type 1: located in the area supplied by the lenticulostriate arteries entering the basal ganglia type 2: located in the area supplied by the perforating medullary arteries as they enter the cortical grey matter type 3: located in the midbrain
Associations They are usually idiopathic, although they are seen in greater frequency in 1,4,11:
mucopolysaccharidoses, e.g. Hunter disease, Hurler disease some muscular dystrophies traumatic brain injury hypertensive encephalopathy 12 cerebral amyloid angiopathy Sener syndrome 17
https://radiopaedia.org/articles/posterior-reversible-encephalopathy-syndrome-1?lang=us
Posterior reversible encephalopathy syndrome (PRES), also known as acute hypertensive encephalopathy or reversible posterior leukoencephalopathy, is a neurotoxic state that occurs secondary to the inability of the posterior circulation to autoregulate in response to acute changes in blood pressure. Hyperperfusion with resultant disruption of the blood brain barrier results in vasogenic edema, usually without infarction, most commonly in the parieto-occipital regions.
Lol, drugs.com
https://www.drugs.com/cg/encephalopathy.html
What causes or increases my risk for encephalopathy? A brain tumor, or a brain injury, such as a concussion Lack of oxygen to the brain, or damage to a brain blood vessel, such as a stroke An infection from bacteria, viruses, or parasites Exposure to a chemical such as carbon monoxide, lead, or ammonia A chronic infection, such as HIV, herpes, or hepatitis B or C High or low calcium, sodium, or glucose levels, or a lack of vitamin B1
A large amount of alcohol, use of certain medicines or drugs, or withdrawal from alcohol or drugs Liver or kidney failure or cancer A mental condition, such as severe depression
Interesting rabbit hole here. Care to dive into all that?
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Hep B vaccine is given at birth.

Edit2.
What are the signs and symptoms of encephalopathy? Signs and symptoms will depend on what is causing your encephalopathy. You may have any of the following:
Mood changes, a short attention span, and drowsiness Disorientation (not knowing where you are or what day it is) Personality changes, or getting angry easily Memory loss Movement problems, such as clumsiness, tremors, or muscle twitches or pain
Any of those autism symptoms?
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
#26883311 - 08/16/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You are not equipped with the knowledge or skills required to comprehend what you just posted
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#26883319 - 08/16/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: You are not equipped with the knowledge or skills required to comprehend what you just posted
How would you know?
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
#26883347 - 08/16/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Obvious as day and night.
Q: Is there a relationship between autism and encephalopathy? A: Most children with an autism spectrum disorder do not and have not had an encephalopathy. Some children with an autism spectrum disorder have had regression and some have had a regressive encephalopathy.
source:https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/mitochondrial-faq.html#:~:text=A%3A%20Most%20children%20with%20an,have%20had%20a%20regressive%20encephalopathy.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
#26883412 - 08/16/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This whole thing is really getting rather embarrassing for the community IMO.
I've never felt this way before in all my time here, but just skimming this thread, it really does come across that way.
Hamhead, what is your vested interest here, other than having time to waste?
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Jokeshopbeard said: Hamhead, what is your vested interest here, other than having time to waste?
Whoa, I feel like I'm being interrogated here.
Are you asking me to explain myself, jsb?
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
#26883519 - 08/16/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: Obvious as day and night.
Q: Is there a relationship between autism and encephalopathy? A: Most children with an autism spectrum disorder do not and have not had an encephalopathy. Some children with an autism spectrum disorder have had regression and some have had a regressive encephalopathy.
source:https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/mitochondrial-faq.html#:~:text=A%3A%20Most%20children%20with%20an,have%20had%20a%20regressive%20encephalopathy.
Right. Pulling from CDC. You don't think CDC has 'vested' interest in vaccines, considering they hold patents on vaccines, why would CDC want anyone to be aware of potential harms from vaccines?
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/vaccines/japan-leads-the-way-no-vaccine-mandates-and-no-mmr-vaccine-healthier-children/
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
#26883653 - 08/16/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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HamHead said: Whoa, I feel like I'm being interrogated here.
Are you asking me to explain myself, jsb?
No, please don't. Please Please Please not that. You've done enough of that for six lifetimes.
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Compare US to all OECD countries and we are either last or 2nd to last in all measures, and you think is due to HepB vaccine, and not the fact that we are the only country without a state sponsored healthcare system.
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