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OfflineAlsetAlokin
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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: maxmush]
    #26883258 - 08/16/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Sub disposal and dehydrator capacity are things people usually forget :thumbup:




This! Not to change topics but how the hell do you dispose of the sub properly, ethically, covertly?


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: AlsetAlokin]
    #26883266 - 08/16/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Toss it in the forest at night. Good for plants and the earth - ethically disposed :smile:

EDIT reason: so more SWIM :smile:


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: maxmush]
    #26883309 - 08/16/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:noswim:  :rules:  :ban:  :strokebeard:


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26883762 - 08/16/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those six shelves took up 55sqft. 10 foot ceilings I think each holds 14 tubs. 6 x 14 = 86 tubs per 55sqft.

1000sqft / 55sqft ~ 18 x 86 tubs = 1,548 total tub capacity.

Conservatively call it a six week cycle on tubs, 1548 / 6 = 258 tubs per week X .25# = 64.5#/week.

Subtract bag space and work space.


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: filthyknees]
    #26883796 - 08/16/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Across 3 flushes, itd be alright sure, but you're not keeping tubs around for 3 flushes in an operation this scale... 2nd and 3rd flushes are great, but to rely on them as part of a large scale operation would prove disastrous most of the time... IMHO, MUCH better utilization of space and time to go single flush and replace them... IF you CONSISTENTLY get 3oz+ 2nd flushes, I could see reserving a little space, but the diminishing results of a 3rd flush, especially if 1st and 2nd rock, are difficult to justify in my mind

I recycle coir twice for my gourmet business, first for oyster, and again with shiitake... I then use it to turn into the compost pile: gives it a nice substance

You dont think you'd be hard pressed to get those numbers alone filthy? prep is a LOT of work... the math works for the space, but doesnt account for time... I guess it's highly dependent on equipment restrictions as well...


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26883814 - 08/16/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

space and time aren't even limiting factors. Sporeload and will power are. You're going to find out really really quick how tough it is to try and put out "maximum yeild" allowed by your space and time. Check it:
Fruit a shoebox and pick a good clone.
Grow it out and master it.
G2g and bam you've got enough for 3 tubs.
12qts of spawn equals 12qts of sub, which at your scale youre going to want to pasteurize considering you've got a lot invested in the op.

Point being, the size of the room doesn't determine maximum yield. You could literally stack tubs on each other with no space and put out 100lbs a week. Your issue is going to be time, fighting laziness (theres absolutely no time to slack when trying to fill a room and hopefully get them all harvested in a similar time frame), and exhaustion. If you want to make full use of that space, quit your job and train 3 friends to grow with you. Give em keys, because you're not going to be able to make it there everytime something has to get done.

Basically I'm saying using that room to its full potential is the easy part. Taking care of everything in it is going to determine your yield.


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26883852 - 08/16/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You dont think you'd be hard pressed to get those numbers alone filthy? prep is a LOT of work... the math works for the space, but doesnt account for time... I guess it's highly dependent on equipment restrictions as well...




It would take at the minimum four-five dedicated workers working every day imo.

Also like you said, equipment, forget using burners, x75s on timers would be the only way.

Also hey pp, see lotkids posts for more on his side of things.


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: filthyknees]
    #26883856 - 08/16/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Right... a crew... I'd be interested in seeing what 1 person could turn out unlimited by space or equipment... like, if I had a bank of 55gal steamers, how many tubs I could turn out... I'd have to start cut harvesting, pluck and shuck takes me a good hour, hour and a half sometimes... it'd be interesting


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26883882 - 08/16/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

My back hurts just thinking about it


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: filthyknees]
    #26883888 - 08/16/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:

My back hurts ANYWAYS lol... I'm running pretty much all the time, but the majority of mine is gourmet... still turning out


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26884709 - 08/17/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

caps why in the world would you harvest by hand? I mean I understand WHY you might do it but you also put out enough mush that cut harvesting would probably actually save you a couple bucks a week in time and effort.


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26884855 - 08/17/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Its a personal thing: giving each fruit attention and positive energy... I cut when I misjudge and end up with 5-9 tubs finishing at the same time... then I pull out the big guns: gutted 20" box fans with one intact fan assembly attached to a hot plate... dry up to 3lbs in about 30hrs lol


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26884935 - 08/17/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Killer dude.

And I totally understand giving each fruit your attention and love. Sometimes I'll finish harvesting a tub and I realize that I only have stems to dry because I couldn't choose just a few to print and ive got 15 clone candidates lol id do them all if i had the time or desire to but i always try to just have a couple cultures going, and its super hard when you get so attached to your fruits to decide


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26885032 - 08/17/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yes... I have probably 2 dozen plus working cultures in my rotation... the struggle of letting go is real


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: filthyknees]
    #27217109 - 02/20/21 04:54 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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filthyknees said:
Those six shelves took up 55sqft. 10 foot ceilings I think each holds 14 tubs. 6 x 14 = 86 tubs per 55sqft.

1000sqft / 55sqft ~ 18 x 86 tubs = 1,548 total tub capacity.

Conservatively call it a six week cycle on tubs, 1548 / 6 = 258 tubs per week X .25# = 64.5#/week.

Subtract bag space and work space.




One would need some sort of crazy air intake/ ventilation system for FAE and to help avoid the excess c02 build up, no?

Is the monotub really the superior fruiting chamber at this scale? Probably easier than dialing in large grow tents with fruiting trays.

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filthyknees said:

It would take at the minimum four-five dedicated workers working every day imo.

Also like you said, equipment, forget using burners, x75s on timers would be the only way.





I feel like 75x's could work if you had 6-8. Although, an autoclave would be a better fit if you're moving at this pace...


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Re: Yield capabilities question [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27217376 - 02/20/21 08:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Is that your sister? I always wonder why people put pictures up of nearly naked women.


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