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Ultishrum
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How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I?
#26881675 - 08/15/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey guys, I am a 27 year old with an extensive drug history. The only things I hadn't done are street meth (I consider Adderall meth, which I have done) and Heroin. Besides that when I was 18 to 21 the sky was the limit. Cocaine, pills, weed obviously, mushrooms only a couple times. LSD alot, but primarily, unfortunately, research chemicals; such as 25i, 2ce, you name it. We had it everywhere because we could get it so cheap Anyways to make my long history short, I generally had a good experience with these things.
The only real problem I had from tripping was falling asleep, it is very hard. Mainly because, I know it seems unbelievable and I'm hoping someone shares this: I can't stop triping until I fall asleep. The mindset, the remembering of that...I can't even explain it. That makes the trip infinitely more terrifying. Since I have gotten older, I have always had problem falling asleep. I love staying awake. So I now take melatonin to help me, when and if I trip again, I will definitely be using melatonin.
So why did I stop tripping?
My last trip, I was starting at a friend's house and another friend wanted to trip on done 25i, sure why not. I took 1 tab and he took 4, Long ass story short, my friend attacked me that night, he attacked me then kissed me. It is a long troubling story. I ended up running away to a gas station where they called the police and I was then put in the ER for an overdose. Now let me tell you, the room they put you in for psychiatric evaluation is like out of a horror movie. As i looked around all I saw were people who were absolutely gone psychiatricly. That's a whole experience. Anyone wind up in one of those rooms? Anyways, i get evaluated and brought to the normal hospital beds Crazy! (Maybe I was just tripping hard), anyways my parents came to pick me up, and low and behold, since I was tripping I didn't think anything of it, they were feeding me coffee! On a RC chem 'overdose', they decided to feed me coffee, my parents are no strangers to drugs, and they chewed out the hospital staff for that. Anyways. I got brought home that night, struggled hard to fall asleep, and have not tripped again.
Anyways. I know that this story only happened because of the RCs, they are disgusting drugs, and I wish I stuck to LSD and Shrooms only. As I have just started to grow my own shrooms for friends and innn, I know that I am going to want to try my product first.
What are some tools or methods I can use to overcome my subconscious of turning these memories into a bad trip? Tripping use to be my favorite thing, now I can't muster that familiar feeling, although, I know when I recognize it again, i am going to remember all of the psychedelic teachings that are forgotten after tripping that I am reminded of everything I start, no matter which one.
Just to note, I did not narc on my friend. I told them I was attacked and tripping but I did not need the police launching that kind of investigation because we had alot, and i mean alot of the stuff.
So yeah. I'm just worried about the memories and the fact that I now have a bunch of responsibilities compared to when I was younger. I don't have any kids but I own a home, work alot.
Thanks for reading my story. Any questions, comments, or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Edited by Ultishrum (08/15/20 01:31 PM)
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Ultishrum] 1
#26881813 - 08/15/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ultishrum said:
Long ass story short, my friend attacked me that night, he attacked me then kissed me.

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Ultishrum said: I ended up running away to a gas station where they called the police and I was then put in the ER for an overdose. Now let me tell you, the room they put you in for psychiatric evaluation is like out of a horror movie. As i looked around all I saw were people who were absolutely gone psychiatricly. That's a whole experience. Anyone wind up in one of those rooms?
Whoa. Yeah that was obviously a traumatic level trip experience.
But heck yes I would trip again. Are you cool with tripping solo? Every negative experience I've had, the next time I trip I always trip solo and in a perfectly comfortable setting, and it almost always is a great and positive experience.
I would trip solo if I were you and somewhere where you're safe and comfortable. I think if you do that you'll have a positive experience & trip.
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Niffla] 1
#26882165 - 08/15/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you are right as well, I rarely tripped solo. It was a traumatic experience, but to be honest, it set me straight. Its not that pshycedelics are bad but I was in a place where I was unproductive. I still thank my friend for the experience, haha. (never tripping with him again though, rarely ever see him infact)
I think tripping solo is probably a good idea.
It is definitely something that I will look into when my batch is done. Thanks for the reply
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Niffla] 1
#26882845 - 08/16/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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But heck yes I would trip again. Are you cool with tripping solo? Every negative experience I've had, the next time I trip I always trip solo and in a perfectly comfortable setting, and it almost always is a great and positive experience.
I would trip solo if I were you and somewhere where you're safe and comfortable. I think if you do that you'll have a positive experience & trip.
This. The few times I had a trip that left me in a bad place, the next trip has always been a positive one. I always trip alone though.
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Ultishrum] 1
#26882918 - 08/16/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The thing about bad trips is, you have to ask yourself if that situation could have happened any other time, any other substance. If the answer is yes it's not a bad trip. It's a bad experience. A bad trip is not being able to handle the visuals, you're overwhelmed by your feelings, your thoughts become too much, you're falling all over the place or puking constantly. That is a bad drug experience. OP you had a bad life experience but don't mistake me for saying that the drugs had no influence, because they did. But the point is that this falls in to set and setting. A bad trip is when set and setting is perfect but it doesn't turn out great anyway. Shit drugs in a weird place with someone you're unsure of. Read that again, lol.
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26883303 - 08/16/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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your nasty time was on 25i not mushrooms.
that nasty time is still part of your mental universe and always will be, however, you can find your peace with it. As long as you do not cringe and try to run away from your difficult memory, then it will not hugely impact any of your trips.
the memory is part of your mind, like a tattoo. it's ok, often we have tattoos that no longer represent where we are at or headed, but are mementos of where we have been for better or worse.
so in simple terms, find some peace about it now (remain calm while thinking of any and all aspects of the problem that nite), and more peace will come later on mushrooms as well, it's ok, don't panic.
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26883348 - 08/16/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want to hear about why your friend attacked and then kissed you.
Was he repressing being bisexual?
I'm also going to agree that tripping solo on a light dose of mushrooms is a good start.
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Ultishrum]
#26883359 - 08/16/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"What are some tools or methods I can use to overcome my subconscious of turning these memories into a bad trip? "
- I don't think there are any like that. I think it is you who make the bad trip if the dose is right. Like if you can't face some memories without spiraling into a bad trip that you just want to end, there's no point in taking psychedelics after all the shit you have been through. Look the fear and the realness of what you have experienced straight in the eyes. IF you are afraid of something coming up and don't want it to, then either it will come up and devastate you or just the anxiety of something possibly going wrong will do that for you.
Yes and I would add that tripping solo eliminates all the potential bad trips from other people if that is what you are referring to as well. Always trip solo FTW (until with good tripping friends)
Edited by InnerWisdom (08/16/20 12:00 PM)
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: InnerWisdom] 1
#26883362 - 08/16/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Terence McKenna: "don't be afraid to go at it alone"
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26883387 - 08/16/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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be happy and try to be more happy to youself happy mentally like skillful sage talk nice to yourself and funny
and try to be happy to others
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Ferdinando]
#26883390 - 08/16/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok maybe not funny but you know be a happy person be nice to yourself
like yourself
I'm just trying to get you to be light happy
just like going in a direction to be more happy 
like one day it's ok (all of it or almost) you wake up you are happy you treat others happily kindly become more and more happy
like being in the right direction with your behavior
smiling outwardly!
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Ferdinando]
#26883675 - 08/16/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You seem like you understand yourself and the substances involved, and that neither yourself nor psilocybin caused that terrible experience - indeed it sounds like you dealt with it perfectly, being able to mollify the authorities and protect your friend, all whilst tripping through trauma.
You got this, do a solo journey with a reasonable dose and take it in your stride - if these past experiences are going to come up (they probably will at some point), embrace it, will them, knowing that they made you stronger and that this process will too.
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26883772 - 08/16/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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GK-7 said:
This. The few times I had a trip that left me in a bad place, the next trip has always been a positive one.
Weird how that works, huh? It's not like I ever want a less than positive experience, yet when I do have them I know that almost always that next trip is going to be a positive one for some reason.
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larry.fisherman said: The thing about bad trips is, you have to ask yourself if that situation could have happened any other time, any other substance. If the answer is yes it's not a bad trip. It's a bad experience. A bad trip is not being able to handle the visuals, you're overwhelmed by your feelings, your thoughts become too much, you're falling all over the place or puking constantly. That is a bad drug experience. OP you had a bad life experience but don't mistake me for saying that the drugs had no influence, because they did. But the point is that this falls in to set and setting. A bad trip is when set and setting is perfect but it doesn't turn out great anyway.
Definitely. Well said.
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Niffla]
#26884052 - 08/16/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very nice hearing everyones point of view and opinion on it. Thank you very much.
I will be dosing slowly when my grow is done, I will report back here after I do so!
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Re: How to get over a 'bad trip'? How to trip again? Should I? [Re: Ultishrum]
#26884263 - 08/17/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Meditation with a breathe focus is my suggestion. A busy mind can force itself to focus on that which it least wants to. If you become good at meditating, that issue can be subdued as it arises by just focusing on the breathe.
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