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23qt capcity for grain bags
#26881511 - 08/15/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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How many 5.5lb grain bags are you able to fit in a 23qt pressure canner? Thank you!
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: maxmush]
#26881549 - 08/15/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not sure about weight but I fit 6 four quart bags in my presto
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: maxmush]
#26881550 - 08/15/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do 4lb bags an I can fit 4 bags in mine I tried 5lb bags an I think since there was so much grain in the cooker the bags got under sterilized in the core and made my monotubs trich out
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Mycobro420]
#26882542 - 08/16/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cool. Thanks guys! Gives me a ballpark (cant wait for that autoclave )
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: natedawgnow]
#26883305 - 08/16/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You never have a problem wit under sterilization doing 6 bags in a presto. Also mine runs outta water if I run it for over 2 hrs
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Mycobro420]
#26883912 - 08/16/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Then you arent doing it right 
I run my presto for 3hrs bare minimum. You have to turn down the heat on your stove once it reaches 15psi. Your jiggler should only jiggle once a minute or so.
I put weight on mine so it doesnt jiggle at all and holds 15psi on low heat after an hour.
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: natedawgnow]
#26883937 - 08/16/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah the coins make a world of difference. I followed ayeplus's bag Tek and never looked back. I don't fill my PC up as much, 6 bags is perfect for a 23qt.
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26883951 - 08/16/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was jamming 6 4qt bags... 2 layers of 3,one layer of jar rings under the trivet and a plate on top of the bags/under the lid... 24qts in a 23qt presto lol
Lower the temp once its rocking, so that it moves very little or not at all while maintaining pressure... should lose nearly no water at all
Bags need 2.5-3hrs (elevation and grain dependent) to properly sterilize
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Caps McGee]
#26884995 - 08/17/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you guys using spacers in between bags I think my seal on my presto has a leak. Do you use 2 quarters to not make it giggle. Wen you run it for 3 hrs. Do you allow your bags to touch the sides of the PC walls
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Mycobro420]
#26885016 - 08/17/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont use spacers, bags against the walls, they're designed for it... I lower the temp to keep it hovering at 150psi it barely jiggles and only occasionally: a coin should work also...
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Caps McGee]
#26885066 - 08/17/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so your Tek is Mason jars lids under the bottom rack then 2 layers of 3 bags. Bags touching bags as well. And a quarter taped to the top of weight. And low temp. I also see mine leak water from the top seal. Do I need need rubber ring. Not a lot of water but a few drops come out. Also bags according folded wit the with second layer on too of the bottoms according fold bags
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Mycobro420]
#26885108 - 08/17/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont use a coin personally: but I've seen a few others say they do... I take the rubber seal out and kind of stretch it slightly, running my finger around the inside of the seal to fan it.back out a bit: once it starts to build pressure, itll hold itself in place... if it's a persistent issue, you can replace the seal with presto parts for like $6USD
I trifold my bags so that the first fold is at the grain, and leaves the patch facing up, then I center the patch face down over the first fold(should be center of the top of the bag) and the 3rd fold back over on top to meet the second fold, stacking them.in the presto with the mouth of each bag facing inward: this allows me to grav the final fold and lift the bag without compromising the mouth of the bags
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Caps McGee]
#26885133 - 08/17/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I put them side by side. Sideways in 2 rows of three
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: Mycobro420] 1
#26885136 - 08/17/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just don't understand how I'm running outta water is it from the weight giggling whole time.i have also broke bags from having the bags touching with no spacers. But if you guys says it works I will deff retry u Update I tried the 6 bags with no spacers worked great put two quarters on the OC weight gage an ran it for 3 hrs. Then I measured the water after the cycle it was about 2 qts thanks guys
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: natedawgnow]
#27090581 - 12/15/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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4 Myco quarts per bag or 4 jar quarts ha? Cause a Myco quarts about a half quart really huh?
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: QM33]
#27090585 - 12/15/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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i always put 4 unicorn bags filled with ca 2300ml substrate (compressed) seems like theres pace for a 5th... 3,5h at 12.5 - 15 psi
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: kassel88]
#27090646 - 12/15/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was able to do 4 5 quart sawdust bags, but I'm about to do grain bags for the first time and have a bunch of hydrated grains. I was going to so 6 4 quart bags. Idk.
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: natedawgnow]
#27090817 - 12/15/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I did 6 4quarts it would be SO packed. Is that okay? Would I use jar lids? I'm only doing 4 4quarts and I'm using a brick as a spacer, gives me like a inch of water.
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: QM33]
#27090916 - 12/15/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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A brick would take up the space of a whole bag or more in a 23qt. No wonder you only get in 4 bags.
Trivet on bottom with a couple rings under it, layer of2 bags separated by rings, trivet, layer of 2 bags separated by rings, trivet, last layer of 2 bags, trivet on top.
Thats how I do it with unsealed accordion folded bags with between 3 and 4 actual quarts.
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: natedawgnow]
#27091169 - 12/15/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been able to cram 13-2 lb bags into my Presto. I use those bags with smaller amounts and inoculate with agar, then g2g to larger bags.
So basically about the same volume of grains that everyone is saying, I just have more bags
  
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Really it's like a 1/4 piece of a brick but I feel you, my last run I ran out of water, even with quarters in my weight, but I think that's because I let to much steam out before putting the weight on idk. And that makes more since, how you arrange them, I was thinking 2 layers of 3, because of caps, but idk it might be more doable with 3 laters of 2, idk it just seemed like everything was touching the wall. I'll try a run like you say Nate, I did my last grain run with 4 4quart bags with that brick and pillowcases/a shirt wrapped around the bags, wet, and it went perfect. Lost like no water even ha. But I'm using gas, and like I said maybe even letting a pc vent steam for 10-15 minutes, aggressively, may have been my culprit as well, it's wierd my burners all kinda burn different and I'm still getting used to it, keeping them even. I'll try it, I sealed my last grain bags, and they're 2um, went great. I'll try 6 next time. With no brick, and rings to separate them, see how it goes.
I just inoculated a 4 quart grain bag with a full petri dish...
And mindatlarge that's definetly the pic I was looking for ha, that just seemed dangerous to me idk why. Wonder if I could fit 24 quarts in 4 bags.. it would be tight after adding about another quart of grain if I transfered, but less bag?
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Re: 23qt capcity for grain bags [Re: QM33]
#27092286 - 12/16/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Quantom Moksha said: I just inoculated a 4 quart grain bag with a full petri dish...
Check out this thread and shred up that dish!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27088090
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