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PE - 20 days still no fruit * 1
    #26881329 - 08/15/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ok i get PE are finicky. This is my first shot with PE (not others) and spawned on Aug 26th.

Myc was super rhizo and aggressive. Fast colonization times. No visible contams in grain and in sub.

EZDial 26qt tubs with CVG. Cased 7 days after fully colonized substrate (and late cased an experimental tub that i wasnt going to case but started to look blobby). Myc has made its way through but not eaten all of it.

Lots of FAE and 12/12 light.

Its day 20 today and still nothing? Is this normal? I just see more rhizo myc coming through.

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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush]
    #26881456 - 08/15/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Looks good should be any day now.I have some that just popped up today. I made this tub on 7/22. fruiting 7/29.first casing 8/3. final casing 8/11.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: seand04]
    #26881463 - 08/15/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

888 posts seand04 - super lucky! Thanks I am hopeful but wow patience :crazy:

BTW double casing??


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush]
    #26881524 - 08/15/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Did you case it with coir or peat/verm?


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    #26881967 - 08/15/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: seand04]
    #26881974 - 08/15/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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888 posts seand04 - super lucky! Thanks I am hopeful but wow patience :crazy:

BTW double casing??






Yea the mycelium ate through the first casing layer.  I use 50/50 coir verm


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: seand04]
    #26881976 - 08/15/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah coir doesn’t really work for casing PE, you need 5050. I like jiffy mix with a little extra verm added.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: A.k.a]
    #26881979 - 08/15/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I cant find jiffy mix anywhere here 😰 . Maybe on line🤔. The yellow bag stuff right, I found some on Amazon.  I gott shoot down to home depot and double check


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: seand04]
    #26881980 - 08/15/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It'll fruit when its ready


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: LotKid]
    #26882081 - 08/15/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think it’s called seed starter mix. It’s funny they sell something exactly the same as the mix needed for casing. All ph balanced and everything.

Or you could get peat moss and make it yourself.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: A.k.a]
    #26882540 - 08/16/20 12:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks guys. I used coir and a coir/verm. I'll try the jiffy. LotKid, this sport develops your patience skills for sure (my OCD doesnt help lol).


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush]
    #26882559 - 08/16/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Looks wet try fanning and misting when the substrate dries a bit.

AKA is right you can buy the premixed stuff, RR was a fan of hoffman brand.  I'd recommend no coir in the casing coir is food for myc you want fruiting not colonizing.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush]
    #26882933 - 08/16/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks guys. I used coir and a coir/verm. I'll try the jiffy. LotKid, this sport develops your patience skills for sure (my OCD doesnt help lol).



If you think shrooms push your patience... try growing cannabis or cacti...


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: LotKid]
    #26882953 - 08/16/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol yeah one of the best things about cult to me is how quick the cycles are. Growing weed is like a year long process before you have finished buds.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: LotKid]
    #26883187 - 08/16/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks guys. I used coir and a coir/verm. I'll try the jiffy. LotKid, this sport develops your patience skills for sure (my OCD doesnt help lol).



If you think shrooms push your patience... try growing cannabis or cacti...




Actually i do know how that is. Wasnt for me lol. I am also on some cacti projects as well. I guess i was just having such "fast" results with the other sub-species.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: A.k.a]
    #26883422 - 08/16/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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lol yeah one of the best things about cult to me is how quick the cycles are. Growing weed is like a year long process before you have finished buds.




Yeah and when you harvest those huge buds and see white mold inside you're like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26884127 - 08/17/20 12:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Any of you have some pictures of grain spawn of APE? Mine looks so thin and I wonder if it's normal...


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: Bsdgaou]
    #26884179 - 08/17/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The walls look soaked but the surface looks too dry. I case my penises after i see knots


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
    #26884296 - 08/17/20 05:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Slow growing,  only 2 🍄 so far.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: seand04]
    #26884673 - 08/17/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

[UPDATE]

Cased them at day 3, 5 and 8 after 100% colonization:

Cased day 3 coir only:



Cased day 5 coir only:



Cased day 8 coir/verm:



Late casing with coir/verm seem to be performing better.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: Bsdgaou]
    #26884691 - 08/17/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Any of you have some pictures of grain spawn of APE? Mine looks so thin and I wonder if it's normal...




This be some ape -


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26886411 - 08/18/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Looks quite tomentose and less rhizo. How did these APEs work out for ya? I am still waiting for any significant fruiting with my PE tubs spawned on the 28th of Aug. (check 2 posts above). 2 pins so far lol. The myc was mostly rhizo.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush] * 1
    #26886587 - 08/18/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

They’re still growing now. This has been my first run of any PE variety. Definitely slower than I’m used to lol but I hear they’re damn strong. This particular clone is said to rock out on the 2nd flush. I’ve got plenty of knots and little blob pins on the 1st so I don’t know if I set the tub up a lil too dry or it’s just always like that.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26886631 - 08/18/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Did you soak or bottom water before the second flush?

I've noticed millet colonises more tomentose. I bet it has to do with nutrient solubility


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26886688 - 08/18/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those ape I posted are still the first flush but I will float it a bit before the second. I prep my bulk pretty dry but someone here told me ape like a lil more water so I’ll prep with that in mind next time.

I’ve seen the same culture look ropey, fuzzy and in between depending on the agar mix or grain it was on. I don’t really put much stock in the looks of cube myc, beyond how healthy or organized it looks.


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26886694 - 08/18/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Tomentose myc hides contams better ime.

If thats the first flush its definately lacking good surface conditions. The pinset could be better. Read through this https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053


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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26886698 - 08/18/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’ve also found PE/ape to like wetter subs.


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    #26886710 - 08/18/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I’ve also found PE to like wetter subs.


 

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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26886809 - 08/18/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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That's what SHE said!  Right? Nevermind.




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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush]
    #26887195 - 08/18/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

BTW what are you guys finding the average fruiting time for PE from spawn to bulk? I see pins in 14 days for most varieties. This PE was spawned July 28th and just starting to see minimal pins (about 21 days so far). I am optimistic however as these fruits are from the same LC:



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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush]
    #26887264 - 08/18/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don’t remember for sure but it was a while. 20 days sounds about right.


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    #26887273 - 08/18/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ok cool. Now that i know this LC is viable i guess its just a waiting game. My buddy that gifted the LC said it was 3 weeks but i am at 3 weeks and have weak pinset. The late cased test tub is doing the best so far.

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Re: PE - 20 days still no fruit [Re: maxmush]
    #26887481 - 08/18/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I grew some APE last year during the winter and man they took forever, then all the fruits were pretty small.

Of course because of the genetics only a few looked like a penis and they rest were super fat stem and small caps. I did still harvest a few oz out of my monotub though and the stems were very dense. crazy having so many dense small shrooms.


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