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Tall and thin fruits
    #26880663 - 08/14/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This was my first grow and first flush ever.

I know I had surface condition issues. And the substrate was drying out like mad I followed an unmodified tub tek, and I can't do that where I live. Today all the mushrooms went from looking like they might get fat to falling over in the heat of the day.

I harvested what I could and left about half of them because they could still grow. The "root structure" was super small and the fruit body didn't have much connection with the substrate. Also, there never really was a veil. They just kinda opened and sporulated.

Would those issues be solved by keeping temps down and H2O up?



100g wet, 100g left to harvest in a couple days and probably just as much in side pins.


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Re: Tall and thin fruits [Re: eldoclimber]
    #26880689 - 08/14/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Looks good enough. Congrats! Did you keep them in the dark? What were your fruiting conditions?


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Re: Tall and thin fruits [Re: eldoclimber]
    #26880694 - 08/14/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You need to increase FAE judging by the base of your fruits. Fruits will elongate quickly seeking oxygen.
High temperatures can be at play as well. High fruiting temperatures seem to cause fruits to grow and mature very quickly which leads to low weight and skinny very hollow stems.

I am finding a sweet spot with an ambient room temperature between 68-70.


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Re: Tall and thin fruits [Re: checkmatsis]
    #26880706 - 08/14/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fruiting conditions? Lets see....above field capacity on days 1-3 with inside temps around 72. Ambient lighting.

Then steadily increasing to indoor temps sometimes pushing 90, regardless of my AC. At night I had to cool off the room, so heavy mist with an attic fan on down the hall. In the morning they were dry.


Tall, hollow stems are what I'm seeing. I will definitely have to use a modified tub next go around, hopefully here in a week.


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Re: Tall and thin fruits [Re: eldoclimber]
    #26880744 - 08/14/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

90 is not optimal for anything but speed. You will see thicker, meatier fruits by keeping things around 70. All cubensis are hollow by nature but the wall thickness of the stipe will be reduced dramatically.

Unless my understanding is completely off base a fruiting body will at some point cease cell division and begin to swell existing cells when ready to mature. Lower temperatures seem to slow the growth rate allowing them to really bulk up before maturity.


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Re: Tall and thin fruits [Re: eldoclimber]
    #26880750 - 08/14/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It looks like you had pretty bacterial spawn. That tub isn’t really colonized, most grains show a little bit of expansion after spawn but not healthy. It looks like each grain just has it’s own fuzz of mycelium thickened up around it. I’m surprised it fruited like it did but not surprised about the lack of stability. It’s like each mushroom is coming from a little colony of a couple grains that reached out to each other.

It’s hard to judge surface conditions until you have full colonization up top because then you can really see the water bearing up or not on the myc. A little lower heat would be ideal but clean spawn is king always.


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Re: Tall and thin fruits [Re: starbones]
    #26880751 - 08/14/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I had problems with high temps recently too. I thought they’d handle it better but anything above low 80s started causing serious problems.


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Re: Tall and thin fruits [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26880774 - 08/14/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Roger Clemency said:
It looks like you had pretty bacterial spawn. That tub isn’t really colonized, most grains show a little bit of expansion after spawn but not healthy. It looks like each grain just has it’s own fuzz of mycelium thickened up around it. I’m surprised it fruited like it did but not surprised about the lack of stability. It’s like each mushroom is coming from a little colony of a couple grains that reached out to each other.

It’s hard to judge surface conditions until you have full colonization up top because then you can really see the water bearing up or not on the myc. A little lower heat would be ideal but clean spawn is king always.




I don't know enough to really argue the point, but my gut tells me it wasn't bacterial. I threw out the questionable jars and it smelled good from day 1. Day 1-3 showed a lot of growth, and I have reasonable weather and could maintain 68 in my grow room. Day 4-9 I had a feeling it was drying out, and have been fighting super high temps ever since. It hasn't gone below 75 at night for almost 2 weeks. 2 weeks of 100 deg temps is abnormal for my area.

I spawned to bulk 6 days after this photo, and it was *much* thicker:


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