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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: imachavel] 1
#26879481 - 08/14/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know where she stands on the death penalty. Honestly, it's not a terribly important policy issue to me at this point. I'm focused on other issues, so you're asking the wrong guy.
I like everything you said. Strong words. To me no candidate is above looking into their heart to see how much guts they have about sticking to other issues. I know they are all corrupt and greedy as fuck to get as far as they get to be eligible to be elected into a position of power to begin with.
My main issue is any President that does not have an issue with such policies as prisons and finance of such things and policies regarding prisoners should not be eligible to be President. I hate Trump deeply but he is clear on that he totally 100% supports the death penalty and does not want it removed and if possible would put it as top priority for all states to strongly re enforce it.
I agree some things are of much more immediate concern. Still anyone that wants to take Trump on is asking to get their ass handed to him. He is so manipulative and powerful I almost imagine he would try and amend the constitution to allow himself a 3rd term if possible. Most Presidents are not even that retarded. Or are they? Maybe in private they all want to rewrite the constitution. Trump is very boastful and I am surprised he has not put this on his list of things to do.
On the other hand you have Biden opposing him. I knew of the 2 dementia candidates Biden and Bernie Sanders one would become the next major running party official. I feel any dementia ridden candidate has a very low chance against Trump despite Trump's lowering popularity he is extremely manipulative and uses his press to gain popularity and even his bad press is something he uses to turn towards his advantage. He gains followers by insulting retards that try and expose him and gains popularity while ruining peoples credibility.
Its obviously a game a child could figure out. But a smart child. And voters are not smart children they are retarded children.
So Biden's weak stance on policies like "the death penalty" which many people may overlook during these horrific times of economic distress and pandemic hardship to me signifies even more he is looking for weak minded votes based on him wanting to capture anyone who simply does not like Trump.
While this may be a good move since most voters are as stupid as children if Trump gets even a little bit intellectual and starts pulling policies on old sleepy Joe that he is not prepared for as he cannot remember where he was all morning Trump can turn it around and chew Trump up.
I personally hate Trump. I feel like anybody with half a brain would vote against him. He is a moron. But this is his persona. He is a smart manipulative motherfucker. He gets people to think of him as a child then at the last minute pulls out a lot of shit a smart person would say and wins peoples hearts and minds. Retarded peoples hearts and minds of course.
Then you have Dementia Joe Biden who also wants to win the retard vote but the other side. But retards are easily swayed. Biden is smart enough to know people don't like Trump and that is it. If Trump makes Biden think even a little and Biden is forgetting to spell his own name Biden will lost like 10 million votes. While Democrats act loyal they are not. Republicans are in a sick way. They will vote for their favorite Hitler while Hitler is shoving them in a gas chamber because no blue voter votes anything but blue.
But Biden is fucked if he thinks his own Democrats won't turn on him. So if I were Biden I would have a strong stance on the death penalty.
Not that he cares. Not that it matters. He doesn't give a fuck. He needs to lie like Obama and get ride of a few prisons while keeping hundreds and act like the few he removed are severely part of his master plan while the rest was blocked in Congress or some shit. But these days sleepy Joe ain't half ass lying his way through a decent debate. I see Trump winning and me kicking myself.
you know the overconfidence on the left side is the weakness. Real talk man. I hate Trump but he is going to win if Biden just keeps acting like "a good person" expecting it to matter when elections come up. He needs to lie better. He needs to make something up. He needs to pretend like he has a stance on the death penalty. I mean its sad and politics are sad but a candidate like Trump who has an opinion will win against Biden if Biden doesn't.
Trump supports the death penalty. Biden needs to lie and say he doesn't. Even if he does. To be a strong political candidate. Then we can move on to other issues like covid-19 and the economy when he matters. Politics are a sick game but you have to play the game right.
fucking Biden. What an asshole. Don't they have medication for dementia? Is he not taking it? Old man Joe needs his naps while Trump runs the country into the ground.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I don't think Trump is currently politically strong and effective at manipulation. Ever since corona, he's acting the same but the public's reception of his message has changed entirely.
There were so many highlights to your post. I especially like the battle for the retard vote, and that Biden just needs to lie.
And sadly no, there is no medication for dementia. They can calm it down and slow it down, but they can't reverse it. And thus, Trump's arrogance and stupidity and Biden's Dementia (and he wasn't too sharp when he was younger either), brings us the first female President of the United States. Hurray...maybe.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123]
#26879482 - 08/14/20 02:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: No, i clearly understand the majority of voters in big cities voted Hillary. And btw people do live those spaces and their vote counts. The electoral actually gives those small folks a voice and makes their votes count.
You're right about the last election, but between then and now, Trump lost the suburbs. Game over.
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Trump doesn't stand for the Americans losing family members to covid. This is meme garbage
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MagicMush123 said: Why would trump do that? Why not let states decide for themselves what they want? Any private company can issue whatever policy they want regarding customers wearing masks. A nation wide mandate is unnecessary and would piss people off
At this point pissing people off or not is not a priority with all the carnage their snowlflake asses have already caused its completely nessicary to open any part of the country with any success many scientists have said just that.
The rest of the world disagrees with you and science around the world disagrees with you. Also historically when he calls himself a wartime president he isn't far off about the war part this is a war on covid. In WW2 americans had to truly sacrifice to save jews from death camps and protect our country from ruin. Civilians rationed food,plastic, rubber,no cars were manufactured for civilian use and many people gave money and any metal object they had to fight a war that would protect american lives. Here we are in 2020 and almost half the country are not making even the smallest sacrifice to save lives when we know it's possible from mountains of evidence. We also have a president that has only served to make people doubt the effectiveness of masks,refuses the idea that kids get sixk,refuses the idea that 99.9% of cases are not "totally harmless" and that's one of the biggest reasons why it's never ending.
If Trump would've from the beginning told his rabidly die hard supports to wear masks there wouldn't have ever been a contreversary Trump supporters would be wearing masks that said Trump 2020 gladly. The countries who have the most success in keeping their economy open,deaths down astronomically and so on have either had a short but strict lockdown nationwide or at least everyone knew to wear masks. Now it's us and a few he'll holes like Brazil that can't produce a unified response based on the good in people it's been the exact opposite. If they instituted Nationwide mask order hospitals wouldn't be overflowing,not as many businesses would close,much less people would die and yesterday wouldn't have been the highest death count date in months.
Considering the cases vary widely per state and many private businesses have already implemented mandatory mask wearing in stores why would the president need to implement mandatory nation wide mask wearing when states can decide for themselves if they should based on their cases? I get trumps at the top, but i dont know why you're throwing so much blame on him. The virus isn't trumps fault. Obviously mistakes were made and hindsight is 2020 but what could he really have done but implement strict quarantines for returning citizens? He closed the border to china and Europe (got shit on for it) and even told people in late March to wear masks. Even going as far to suggest using scarves or other cloth to use to supplement masks because of the shortage at the time. He even recently tweeted that it was even patriotic to wear a mask
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26879534 - 08/14/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: No, i clearly understand the majority of voters in big cities voted Hillary. And btw people do live those spaces and their vote counts. The electoral actually gives those small folks a voice and makes their votes count.
You're right about the last election, but between then and now, Trump lost the suburbs. Game over.
Sadly you're right. Trump's done nothing to grow his base and even turned some of his base off. Still though, i have faith that he'll win. Trump's always got a ace up his sleeve and Bidens gonna slip up big time during the debates. The debates are what will win trump the election
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123]
#26879547 - 08/14/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think the debates are going to turn this around. Sure Biden's a blithering idiot, but so is Trump (a lot of it's just his psychological issues), but nobody is blaming Biden for what's happening right now, and a majority blame Trump.
Trump's best chance would be to dump Pence, and find someone less dumb than Sarah Palin.
If the corona thing had improved, it would have changed a lot. But there's good news one day and the more bad news the next day.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26879630 - 08/14/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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All biden has to do in the debate to combat trumps brand of hroseshit is to point out everytime hes being a childish boorish bully. Thats basically all the guys got is to be a bully and then act like a pompous jackass about it. Thats what won him the election. Thumbing his clown nose at the liberals. Thats what I've been saying this whole fucking time. Do politicians not understand tact anymore? Pissing people off just pisses people off i tried to tell you guys this the entire obama administration. Be nice to eachother I said. but ppl like koods and everyone thoufht it was funny to throw shit in peoples faces and now we have trump on our hands. U cant just jump into bed and fuck someone over. U have to wine and dine them. Otherwise u just make urself look ass and give more ammo to the otherside. It doesn't get anything done to be constantly trying to be mean to one another. How stupid are u ppl?
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Love that our conservative patriots here are going all in on the “Kamala is a cop” language, as if they gave a shit about the prison industrial complex. It’s just much more palatable to do that than spam the n word.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26879942 - 08/14/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Love that our conservative patriots here are going all in on the “Kamala is a cop” language, as if they gave a shit about the prison industrial complex. It’s just much more palatable to do that than spam the n word.
I don't know what Republicans would even have an issue with Harris, she's a perfect one. Biden isn't much different, they're both moderate Republicans.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: qman] 1
#26879972 - 08/14/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well they have a D next to their name so I think you mean “far left Marxists who want to tax you and give the money to BlackLivesMatter abortion clinics”
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26880407 - 08/14/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Between the 2 candidates I would chose Trump. Trump is not my type of candidate I do not approve of the death penalty and Trump's foreign policy to me is terrible. Biden to me will simply make the same decisions Trump will but under a false guise and will sway between decisions with no sense of assertiveness. I fear my reaction to who wins this year. One candidate to me is extremely overly aggressive and the other is incompetent secretly envying Trump and wanting to be just like him.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: imachavel]
#26880452 - 08/14/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trumps foreign policy has been pretty good though. Hes been tough on china, stands with Taiwan and yesterday had a major win in the middle east
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123]
#26880495 - 08/14/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Now that is real talk bro
I hope. I am not big on researching things I agree with but will assume that is as real talk as it gets
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: imachavel]
#26880507 - 08/14/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: koods]
#26880546 - 08/14/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wny are you guys so worried about the death penalty anyway? They execute so few people thats really not worth worrying about
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123]
#26880569 - 08/14/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because it’s immoral
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: koods]
#26880576 - 08/14/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I mean i guess. More people die on death row awaiting execution than actually die of execution
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: koods]
#26880597 - 08/14/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Wny are you guys so worried about the death penalty anyway? They execute so few people thats really not worth worrying about 
Boy on that note
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koods said: Because it’s immoral
Its extremely wasteful. Most people appeal the rest of their life out on death row. Its wasteful and immoral and impractical and tons of people later on are found innocent with updated forensic technology after they are executed. Politics is the biggest pick and choose game ever. Its like if someone wants a good teacher for their kids and they are like "we are looking for a teacher that does not smoke or drink or beat the kids ass and makes them do their homework" and someone presents to the parents "well this teacher beats the kids ass but doesn't smoke or drink in class and will make them do their homework" then the next proposal is "well this teacher won't beat the kids ass or smoke or drink in class but won't make the kids do their homework" and its like "choose now!"
Nobody lives like that so why pick a President like that? Then again who am I to question the expectations of voters. Most of them don't expect shit.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123]
#26880599 - 08/14/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: I mean i guess. More people die on death row awaiting execution than actually die of execution
Yes its costly and wasteful
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: imachavel]
#26880604 - 08/14/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: I mean i guess. More people die on death row awaiting execution than actually die of execution
Yes its costly and wasteful
I mean isn't it the opposite? Its more cost effective to execute prisoners rather than house them for life? Not arguing for the death penalty by any means, just addressing the cost issue
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Patlal]
#26880615 - 08/14/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I give trump a 100% chance to win the next election. If you look at where Clinton was polling at this point, and you compare it to how biden is doing, biden is doing significantly worse than clinton and clinton lost.
If you subtract where clinton was on election day from where the polls had her at this point, that'll give you the difference between what the polls said vs. reality. If you then subtract that number from Biden's current figures, you'll see he's losing in a landslide.
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