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!! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far.
#26880410 - 08/14/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Golden Teacher syringes
Syringes left in the refrigerator for 4 months before using.
Grew them using 12 kits from I couldn't be bothered to read the rules before posting and asking for free advice 
This is my 5th operation. The previous 4 using the same methods/materials were all very successful.
The only difference was putting them in a new room, away from direct sunlight. Plenty of light in the room, just indirect.
Fruit came out pretty large, about 7-12 inches fresh. Looked beautiful. Harvested at a mix of different stages, before veil breaking, after veil breaking.
So far 5 people have tried them. One group of 3 people. One group of 2 people. The two groups do not know each other. All 5 people reported ZERO effect. One person took 7 grams with no effect.
I know there are certain things that can affect a trip. Dosage, up-regulation, Rx meds such as anti-depressants, etc.
The only reason I haven't tested them myself is because I took acid a couple days ago and I don't want there to be any up-regulation interference.
I would be very grateful for anybody's input. Thank you -
My question is, has anyone ever heard about harvesting fruit that has no effect on people?
Edited by bodhisatta (08/14/20 04:57 PM)
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: Teocalli]
#26880420 - 08/14/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe this time around you fruited genetics with no or extremely low psilocybin. But its so weird that all the mushrooms would be like this since its an MS growth and not an isolated strain.
You havent stored this msuhrooms for a long time right? I mean they are relatively fresh? How did you dry them, and if you didnt dry them how were they taken?
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: redhandmat]
#26880427 - 08/14/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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These shrooms were put into a dehydrator immediately. Not stored, eaten within a week of being bone dry.
I don't have details how they were taken, but I assume they were just eaten normally.
Golden Teachers from xvideos.com. You would think the psilocybin levels would not be too low, right?
Ms growth vs. isolated strain. I am still an newbie and trying to research what this means. Would you be willing to tell me?
I am so confused and pretty upset about this right now. Thank you for your input.
Edited by bodhisatta (08/14/20 04:58 PM)
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: Teocalli]
#26880435 - 08/14/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Teocalli said: These shrooms were put into a dehydrator immediately. Not stored, eaten within a week of being bone dry.
I don't have details how they were taken, but I assume they were just eaten normally.
Golden Teachers from quoted removal. You would think the psilocybin levels would not be too low, right?
I am so confused and pretty upset about this right now. Thank you for your input.
was there blue bruising? out of curiosity.
Edited by bodhisatta (08/14/20 04:58 PM)
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: rickomalley238] 2
#26880450 - 08/14/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bruising has nothing to do with potency determination so who cares
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Anastomosis
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#26880468 - 08/14/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rick cares
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: Anastomosis] 1
#26880476 - 08/14/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sometimes you grow shit shroomz. It happens.
Or your pals are lying to you/they all coincidentally didnt consume them properly I once gave a friend some shrooms. He said they were bunk. I asked how he consumed. He said he ate 1 gram every 3hrs and felt nothing AFTER he ate an entire pizza He failed hard at doing drugs
Only 2 things you can do. Eat the ones you got and find out.. and/or grow more.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: mushboy]
#26880479 - 08/14/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good point. And with the astronomically high amount of people on antidepressants these days, that's also something to consider.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: Anastomosis]
#26880486 - 08/14/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is a bunch of hot garbage unless you grew winecaps or something and can't tell the difference.
Nobody eats 7grams of cracker dry psilocybe cubensis and feels nothing unless they're a hard core benzo addict or taking large doses of SSRI's.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: Capsicum Chinense]
#26880504 - 08/14/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Capsicum Chinense said:
Nobody eats 7grams of cracker dry psilocybe cubensis and feels nothing
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26880515 - 08/14/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’ve seen a couple legit members say they had whole batches of useless shrooms. I forget who but somebody said they even had a grow of pe that had no effect.
I just had my first weak batch recently, ms Tasmanian I ate 4g and it felt like a microdose that was a little too big.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26880531 - 08/14/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
rickomalley238 said:
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Teocalli said: These shrooms were put into a dehydrator immediately. Not stored, eaten within a week of being bone dry.
I don't have details how they were taken, but I assume they were just eaten normally.
Golden Teachers from quoted removal. You would think the psilocybin levels would not be too low, right?
I am so confused and pretty upset about this right now. Thank you for your input.
was there blue bruising? out of curiosity.
There was bruising on a few fruit, yeah.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: A.k.a]
#26880537 - 08/14/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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From multiple grows of Golden Teachers I have found that by genetics they're not as potent as other cubes. I have grown four different syringes all from different vendors and I have three prints from trades, all of which under performed. I'd suggest getting a different kind of cube, like B+ and try again.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: A.k.a]
#26880542 - 08/14/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I’ve seen a couple legit members say they had whole batches of useless shrooms. I forget who but somebody said they even had a grow of pe that had no effect.
I just had my first weak batch recently, ms Tasmanian I ate 4g and it felt like a microdose that was a little too big.
Interesting... Still though... 7 grams?! Vert tha ferk...?
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26880802 - 08/14/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Bruising has nothing to do with potency determination so who cares
Can you site where youre getting that info, bod? I'd be curious to read that.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: LotKid]
#26880950 - 08/15/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isnt bruising more of an indication of the oxidation and degradation of actives?
So not an indicator of quantitative potency, but at least an indicator of qualitative presence (and furthermore, degradation) .
Ive often wondered if the super potent fruits that barely bruise contain more stable actives than the ones that bruise (breakdown) more readily
Lmk if im misunderstanding something
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Edited by c10h12n2o (08/15/20 01:13 AM)
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26880956 - 08/15/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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IDK but I have a jar of PF Classic x Fiji in the closet that didn't bruise one bit even after rough handling that are hands down the most potent cubes I have.... Freakishly. I sure wish there was more solid science behind bruising vs potency because the last journal articles I saw referenced here cleared exactly bupkis up.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26880968 - 08/15/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26881024 - 08/15/20 04:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: This is the best paper ive seen on it
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/anie.201910175
TL;DR - it's not clear that all the blueing is from psilocin exclusively, therefore blueing =/= potency.
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Re: !! Multiple people eat my cubes - has had ZERO effect so far. [Re: Capsicum Chinense]
#26881674 - 08/15/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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as far as i understand it it means degradation of actives, right?
Which is more of a qualitative indicator that actives (were) present, than a quantitative measure of potency
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