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OfflinePrimalSoup
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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: jdawg333] * 1
    #26881694 - 08/15/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, well, using any kind of sound bite as a guide to fundamental tripping is just bogus. :snoopyes:

I suppose this has become a classic cliche over the years and this particular thread topic pops up every few months or so. :shrug:

I've tripped well over a thousand times on mushrooms and I'm doing them about every 4 days right now, and it's incredible (of course).  This is after a multi year break. I wouldn't change the amount I've tripped and the way I've tripped over the years for anything.

There is no phone.


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26881763 - 08/15/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yep 👍


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: jdawg333] * 1
    #26881765 - 08/15/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know why many people think that hanging up the phone means stop using psychedelics forever. I remeber that the actual quote continued with something like this "the scientist doesn't keep its eye glued to the microscope".

For me the quote means that after you have a meaningful psychedelic experience (get the message) you have to integrate that experience into daily life before making another call. Otherwise you're going to go deeper down the rabbit hole without making anything good out of it and eventually losing touch with reality.

Unfortunately there is bad propaganda not only against psychedelics but also in favor of psychedelics. And there are stupid people like me who thought that the answers to my issues lied in the trip itself rather than on the message it gave me. If I had followed that quote now I would be able to enjoy a trip every now and then.


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: InnerEternity] * 1
    #26881989 - 08/15/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It’s one of those slogans that can have a lot of different uses & meanings read into it.  So depending how it’s use it’s hit or miss.  But ya I know what ya mean.


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26882053 - 08/15/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

First hand experiences are very important for this reason. Like reading the whole quote in context.


"If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen."


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26882279 - 08/15/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well, it's completely a point of view, isn't it?  Mechanistic western thought paradigm.  Psychedelic drugs are not simply instruments to be wielded by psychonauts, they are far more than that. 

It's more like "if they hang up the phone, hit redial."  Try to connect to hyperspace, not just look for "messages". FWIW.


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26882280 - 08/15/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you get the message, pick up the phone and return the call... or maybe spread the message beyond yourself.

Maybe next time you should hope for an international call.

Sometimes you realize redundancy is a system built with the intention of message confirmation. 

I also feel that most messages have nuance which could take many sessions to decipher.

Most everything in life is a cycle. Hanging up the phone is death.


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #26883222 - 08/16/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

works on what he has seen




I like to work on what I am seeing, and that helps me work on what I will see.

if the phone rings, please take a message. I'm busy.


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26884106 - 08/16/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If the phone rings, pick it up. If it's your mom, talk with her. If it's a telemarketer, block their number. If it's your friend, say hi. and then if it's a neighbor that kicked your dog or stole your paper you cuss them out. And then after you get the message, sell your phone on ebay. And never use a phone ever again. Because all messages are redundant. As a matter of fact, people are redundant. As a matter of fact, this whole life is meaningless. So pick up the phone again!! Wait nevermind dont. Then you take your microscope or hammer, or gun or pencil or whatever tool you have near you and you shove it up your ass. Because tools are only meant to be used once in your life. And once it's up your ass you just leave it in there and walk around until you die.


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Re: ‘If you get the message, hang up the phone’... [Re: 7even]
    #26886144 - 08/18/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If it's an Indian scamcenter calling, don't pick the phone up at all!


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