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OfflineDinoB
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WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell...
    #26880247 - 08/14/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I followed the TEK to a tea. Nothing was there before work and then this shit when I get home. Tops look good too but still...




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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26880253 - 08/14/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You didn't add a liner or cover the side of the substrate to prevent light from hitting it, light is a pinning trigger


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: xXxM1NG0xXx]
    #26880258 - 08/14/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Bods says he never uses one. Dang it.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26880260 - 08/14/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You don't need one if you have the skill to keep your surface proper humidity and moisture content 100% of the time, otherwise pins will form in the most ideal conditions. I prefer liners because it makes it much easier to keep the surface optimal.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26880268 - 08/14/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I never use a liner and never get side pins. Its all about the surface conditions. Take a look at the SFF shoebox factory tek, the cultivator there shows how to set and forget shoeboxes that always get the perfect surface conditions.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26880280 - 08/14/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

use a liner until you dial your shit in - game changer for me :thumbup:


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: shroomshine]
    #26880291 - 08/14/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

add a liner.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: xXxM1NG0xXx]
    #26880292 - 08/14/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Tamp down the edges of the substrate after spawning so there isn't a like a gap between the wall and the substrate.  Also, use a liner that'll cling to the substrate to kind of achieve the same thing.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26880366 - 08/14/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

From the pic it looks like you might have a white garbage bag over the top. If that's the case, then at the sides might be the only place getting good light.

Only repeating what I've read from others: light alone is not a factor in where pins form, surface conditions are the bigger factor. But if conditions are same everywhere and you only have light in one direction then I think the pins are going to form facing the light.

That said I haven't tried using an opaque garbage bag, I used a clear lidded bin. But if I were you I would move the garbage bag up so the light reaches the surface directly and see if that helps next time.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26880606 - 08/14/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Is there anything I can do at this point? (Ie move them to a bigger tub somehow?)

What will happen to those? (ie do they die, break thru, etc)


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26880651 - 08/14/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



This tub fruited on the sides and bottom really prolifically, and I just floated, flipped, and harvested. You should be good doing the same. If the mushrooms wanna grow absolutely everywhere, who am I to stop them.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: Marxcelium]
    #26880779 - 08/14/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Seems like a great idea. Thank you, makes me feel better.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26880794 - 08/14/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Put a liner in, that way if it sidepins, you don’t see it 😁


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: dirtybirdx]
    #26880799 - 08/14/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Liner make clean up easier. Wont stop side pins if you dont have surface conditions on point tho.


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Re: WTF am I doing wrong? Side pinning hell... [Re: DinoB]
    #26882521 - 08/15/20 11:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I always pile a little extra casing material around the edges of my trays/tubs/bins and then tamp them down firmly to the same level as the rest of the tray, making sure everything is tamped down as tight as I can get it, methodically going around the edges to ensure consistency in density and thickness.

It's been my experience that loosely or unevenly packed trays of substrates will develop side pins and /or uneven  pin sets and flushing.


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