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Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant?
    #26879682 - 08/14/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hello All,

LONG time lurker here.Never had a reason to post before as most of my questions have already been answered/discussed in a previous post, however I finally have one that doesn't seem to have a lot of related discussion.

On to the actual post: I have some pinsets that are best described as very large buttons. The only similar looking pinsets I have seen on this site are that of KSSS, but I am certain I have a PE variant in my tub. They look similiar to KSSS, but still much different, almost looking like potatoes due their spotting & lumpy shape. I saw some other threads that mentioned button like growths, "stroma blobs," etc. but many had their pictures removed by this time, or they really didnt look like what I have.

SO, am I growing some weird contaminant, or are these just a weird genetic mutation? you can see in my pics I have some normal pinsets.

For further reference, those big buttons are about 7 days old. For 7 days they have just grown wider & fatter, with no upwards growth at all.

Oh & for info on the grow: These were put into WBS jars, sat for 4 weeks & were starting to pin in the jar. Put them into my FC with a tried & true verm, cow manure, & coco coir mixture. This sat for 3 weeks, became 100% colonized, & again once I saw pinsets I moved the tub into full fruiting conditions (I know, I keep letting things sit too long). When I first put the tub into full fruiting conditions, I noticed my sub was pretty dry (likely why it was trying to pin while still in colonization mode), so i misted it very heavily for 2 days, let it dry out a bit overnight & gave it a cold shock, viola the next day I had tons of pinsets. That was about 8 days ago.

Any insight would be much appreciated, very curious about these guys.











Edited by Ash Ketchum (08/14/20 07:38 AM)


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Re: Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant? [Re: Ash Ketchum]
    #26879688 - 08/14/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

PE does that if you don't case it properly before fruiting.
Cold shock will also cause this as well.
You should have just done a VERY heavy misting and left it after using a proper casing layer imo.


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Re: Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant? [Re: mushhead]
    #26879712 - 08/14/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

TY for the info.

I have not seen many posts about this SPECIFIC condition, or am I just blind?

The "cold shock" was a drop in ambient room temperature from 75-76 to 68-69. Most nights the room temp will fall to 70 or 71 & raise to 75 to 76 in the day. Is this a problem? I figured this was a healthy swing & replicated mother nature.

Something else I want to mention, this specific tub (the actual plastic container) kinda sucks compared to some other tubs I use. This one never keeps moisture well (no matter how i adjust my polyfill/micropore tape). I am aware of what surface moisture should look like, but if anything I have too much moisture rather than too little due to this tub requiring more mistings than normal.

Also about the casing layer, I never use them & have this problem! Not saying that makes you wrong, just wondering what conditions culminated to happen this time...

Edit: also, any suggestions to improve this first flush, the second flush, future grows? These buttons are continuing to grow by the hour so they seem "alive" still.


Edited by Ash Ketchum (08/14/20 07:57 AM)


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Re: Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant? [Re: Ash Ketchum]
    #26879714 - 08/14/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's a genetic issue with the PE strains.
I have seen many posts about them and the only fix is a proper casing layer.
PE needs to be cased.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26507179
You should head over there and look through some info ask questions.
Use the search function and look up Penis envy blobs.


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Re: Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant? [Re: mushhead]
    #26879720 - 08/14/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This seems to make a lot of sense to me.

This is my first time working with PE so that would explain why my current methods may have lead to this.

I was not using PE or blob in my search so that explains that as well.I will look through that thread & ask some questions, so thank you very much for your help.

The only question that really matters now is, should I case it immediately, should i case it after the first flush, should i just leave it be?

Oh & if I should pick these big blobs immediately, some of them seem to be getting white & fuzzy, like I said the big ones have been forming for 7 or 8 days.


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Re: Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant? [Re: Ash Ketchum]
    #26879748 - 08/14/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'd pick off the largest blobs and attempt not to damage the mother myc before adding a casing layer.
I suggest doing it soon, but this is nothing to panic over, next time before the first flush you will need to add a casing layer.
PE are water lovers, sometimes I just add a puddle of bottom water to their tubs to keep them happy, other times I just mist the fuck outa it.


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Re: Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant? [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #26879792 - 08/14/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah they blob without a casing.

They’re good though, wait til they get soft and they’ll pop right off.


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Re: Weird Button like Pinsets, a genetic mutation or a rare contaminant? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26879811 - 08/14/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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