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My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now.
#26878607 - 08/13/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MY BEST FRIEND, WHO DIED 4 DAYS AGO, TELLS ME WHERE HE IS NOW.
4 days ago my best friend since childhood, died. For 20 years he had a horribly painful disease which in the end killed him. He was a Hindu. My friend and I had the agreement that if God allowed it, his spirit would contact me and tell me about there Hereafter. He died in the year and under the circumstances God had told me, 4 days ago, and God approved of him contacting me and telling me about where he was, in death.
Please read his words closely because this is important for all of us. This is one of the places we go when we die:
He said: "I'm standing here in the body I had when I was 20, in a field of grass. Hanuman (God) is with me. When you die, your consciousness detaches from your body and enters a dreamstate completely. Because you are always dreaming a bit while awake, and when dreaming always anchored to earth, and none of that exists here, I am FULLY IN THE DREAM and because of that, it feels realer than even waking reality, more tangible and you have more abilities. It is completely peaceful here, there is no time pressure, no hurry, no hunger or need. If you knew how wonderful it was here, you'd kill yourself to get here, but that is the last thing you should ever do.
I stand here on a field of grass, because I choose my environment, at this point, to change into a field of grass. I can morph it into any conceivable environment. I have the body of being 20 years old because I choose to have this body. I wear no clothes now but I can morph them on and off my body.
I can enlist dream figures to play out a scenario with me. These are played by either me or God. I can also meet up with actual people on the Other Side. Everything that is possible in any universe is present here, including that which is on earth now. Including you. You are here too.
All consciousness is connected through the field of consciousness that is this dimension of dreams. You are now partially in it, adhered to a body on earth, I am completely in that dimension, not adhered to a body.
God runs me through scenarios that are mandatory, and alternated with scenarios of my own choosing. What God makes me experience are aspects of the life I lived. Happy moments but also sad and horrible ones. I am atoning for my sins, to say it like that. All karma of all my life is neutralized by working through it.
As I work through it, I get bigger and bigger, more and more complete, closer to God and more and more LIKE God. I know it now that my proximity to God and my Godlikeness will merge into one and that this is the point that I am one with all things.
I cannot know what happens there, but I know that from there, I will separate away from God again into my next life, which is a logical sequal to this life. Cause and effect, Karma, continue also between lives.
We have eternal life, but the majority of it is spent in Death, and its the most beautiful place you can imagine. But! I paid for how beautiful it is with my suffering. A person who has brought suffering on others or committed knowing suicide, will enter this place in a terrible torment, going over and over what happened from every angle for a very long time until the Karmic debt is paid and all are done justice. Only then does their burning desert become a oasis for them, an oasis where they like myself, a good man, are completely replenished as they merge into the God. Hinduism has so many Gods but it is all That One God.
A thousand years on the Other Side can happen in a day of Earth Time. Right now I want to be here and meet up with everybody - God Included - for all Eternity, but I know that I will rise to the highest heaven and from there to the next life, over and over, for all eternity, and that there is no fate more wonderful than that.
Live long and live righteous! Sow the seeds of love everywhere you go. Help others evolve and grow, grow, grow. You cannot suffer enough, your earthly suffering is your credit in Heaven.
Be generous and kind - you are NOT rid of me just yet my friend!"
These are the words of my best childhood friend VVA, four days dead, on the day before his cremation.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante] 1
#26878668 - 08/13/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interesting write up!
I am fortunate enough to not have anyone who I knew more or less deeply dead, so I haven't had similar experiences.
Can you try and elaborate on how does he speak to you, do you see him visually? Also, if you don't mind me asking, what substance did you take if you did?
I heared that in eastern traditions it is believed that once you finish your Dharma and become "karma-positive" you stop reincarnating if I understood it correctly. Did he say to you if that's true? How does it work up there?
Sorry for your loss, good to hear he is in a good place now
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante] 1
#26878690 - 08/13/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My condolences for the loss of your friend Asante.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante] 1
#26878713 - 08/13/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have belief in what you say to be true, maybe that is opinion which can countered by another opinion, but that's the most likely, imaginable idea of what it's like to enter the other side, Glorious and Amazing is the Lord and his world's, surely, I've added Sin after Sin through out life, it seemed I was doomed to failure, but I Believe the inspiration and truth of humble man who suffered one of the worst death's possible for everyone on earth and in heaven, that is, for forgiveness of our Sins, the sacrificial Lamb, atonement for our Sins, his words, actions and his Humble Glory inspire me to do better, to look forward and not be weighed down by dead memories, who ever put's his hand to the plow and look's back is not fit for the Kingdom, where taught not to worry about tomorrow, or about what we will eat, or what we will be clothed with, be like the beautiful Lillie's who are content in the present moment, just flourishing in a peaceful, a passive, no harm done life on earth.
I can't yet understand why sacrifice is necessary, why didn't God just forgive us with the power that change's heart from ignorant or bad to awakened and good, maybe that's where the answer rest, we our to be giving into a sacrificial life style, we should be constantly growing, Life seem's to be a School, we are always learning and facing challenge's every moment, I Can't wait to rest from this test, but I must not kill myself, it would hurt too many people, I've had dreams where I saw my younger brother's reaction to my suicide, they were so crushed they may ended up killing themselves because of it, not a good feeling.
Is he in the astral body where he's at? Paramahansa Yogananda described a similar vision/idea of the other side, is he attracted to coming back to earth? whether it be desire for Sensual Desire, or Desire for Being, or out of Ignorance Desire earthly existence or reacting/responding to Karmic influence's?
Is it like telling your friend, "go into the Light, Step into the Light!",,,it's also really cool you had a friend for so long! I suffered a lonely home-schooled life with many years without friends,,,that word "Friend", is very sensitive to me, it means alot, God bless your Relationship!
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: saintdextro]
#26878847 - 08/13/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can you try and elaborate on how does he speak to you, do you see him visually? Also, if you don't mind me asking, what substance did you take if you did?
My spirit guide usually speaks directly through my mouth, I have allowed him to distinguish himself by authorizing to use my voice box.
My friend spoke to me in his voice, in my mind, until I gave him clearance to use my voice too.
I'm a trained channeler. Mediumship, it remains to be seen what level of reality it touches, but as real as it is, I have it, and I can testify it feels completely genuine.
I've had my spirit guide predict and precipitate too many things to doubt him.
When I was six years old he announced himself as God and the longer I live the more certain I am he's not bluffing.
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I heared that in eastern traditions it is believed that once you finish your Dharma and become "karma-positive" you stop reincarnating if I understood it correctly. Did he say to you if that's true? How does it work up there?
My spirit guide kicked in and said "He cannot know this at this point, he lived a life from which he will reincarnate, but even though there are bonus levels to the game, ultimately you will eternally relive evert possible incarnation even if you had some kind of extended bonus level. I use game lingo because you are eternal and all consequences are reversible, as long as you are a good person you might as well consider it a game."
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Sorry for your loss, good to hear he is in a good place now
Thank you, it appears he is, and we all will be. Think of the ramifications if this were it.
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Is he in the astral body where he's at?
He is in the astral body, or dream body, and can morph it in any way he sees fit.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26881102 - 08/15/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Today, the day after his cremation, with the brain gone, my friend returned, as promised to demonstrate continued existence beyond destruction of the brain, with a message:
You will become One with your God Choose your God wiselyThink hard about this one. He also had messages of a more personal nature, which he asked me to omit from my public reporting, What I can say is that he already knows the entirety of his next life, even how he will die, and he has consented to wanting to live it. Thats apparently how it works. So he's on a road to become One with Hanuman, because Hanuman was His God. He said: and you, YOU!! Your God is The God of All Things! This is gonna be awesome
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26881207 - 08/15/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry for your loss sir but I'm glad to hear your friend is doing okay.
Do you think you could you please ask your guide about the subject of suicide as a form of euthanising yourself in great chronic physical and mental suffering for me?
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26881562 - 08/15/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you think you could you please ask your guide about the subject of suicide as a form of euthanising yourself in great chronic physical and mental suffering for me?
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If you exert an influence upon the universe, there will be a counterinfluence that neutralizes it. Action begets reaction. Karma isn't as much a means of punishment and reward, as a mere evening of the balance.
If you end your life, it is likely that the turmoil of the passing will linger after death as a first balance to resture.
It is best to postpone suicide or euthanasia to the very last of moments, when there is no way to endure any longer. That makes it easier on the other side to resolve it.
No one is damned, especially not for all eternity.
Try to avoid it but if you do it, do your utmost to make it positively succeed to minimize suffering.
Be blessed with strength to endure.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26882450 - 08/15/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks dude that makes a lot of sense. I must admit some part of me was expecting some bullshit answer but I vibe with that I think.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26882737 - 08/16/20 03:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My spirit guide only deals in BS when hes wilfully sabotaging a question he doesn;t like.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26882786 - 08/16/20 05:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That was a very convincing explanation.
Why do you think that he didn't mention anything about hell?...You know, "where their worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched"?
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Hartford]
#26882921 - 08/16/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why do you think that he didn't mention anything about hell?...You know, "where their worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched"?
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Hell is the home of the Devil and his Demons. You'd have to become a Demon to end up there, and even if you did, it would be a temporary condition, sooner or later you will give in to My irresistible force, repent and join Me in Heaven again where complete forgiveness awaits. That most certainly includes the Devil himself.
Universes come into existence and end. This Universe began with the departure of the Devil from Heaven and it will end when he, as the last, will return again.
That does not mean a big crunch follows a Big Bang, no, you can see the material universe and everything in it as a collection of bubbles of Void whipped up by the Big Bang. All these bubbles will pop until the Void remains. Since the Void is pure attraction acting upon itself, pure Love in other words, because energy is consciousness, the Void will forever whip up new big bangs, new foams of bubbles of Void that in time will pop.
Heaven is the Void that everything is comprised of. The bubbles, that is The Earth.
Heaven equates to God.
Therefore "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."
The Vacuum od Space is a false vacuum. There is a less excited groundstate that everything including it, inevitably return to. This is the Void of All Things, in which all possible things are present for all eternity.
This universe is a foam of a greater universe that is pure consciousness and pure information.
Now tell me, can you feel what I am saying here?
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26883032 - 08/16/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why, then, does the book of Matthew warn us to take extreme measures to avoid going to hell?
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Hartford]
#26883125 - 08/16/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because you can become a Demon by making the Devil your God. When you die, you become One with your God. If that God is the Devil, you become One with the red guy. That not just makes your afterlife unpleasant, but your subsesquent incarnations will be more Hellish too, until you make amends.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Hartford]
#26883723 - 08/16/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hartford said: Why do you think that he didn't mention anything about hell?...You know, "where their worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched"?
I've always interpreted hell a little differently.
I think hell is what you make for yourself right here, on earth, when you seek happiness in all the material desires, whether it's money, sex, chemicals, food, whatever - you get 'em but it never seems to be quite enough for anyone, does it?
..."the fire is not quenched". You know?
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Forrester]
#26883763 - 08/16/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's an interesting explanation of that verse I haven't thought about, but I would be careful with that because you could be wrong.
Certainly God has prepared a place even better than what Asante wrote, which is wonderful, for those who love him. So this is very encouraging.
Spirit mediums are forbidden to be consulted, though. Wouldn't it be somewhat out of character for a righteous man to even consider basing his worldview off of a supposed word from the dead?
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Hartford]
#26883813 - 08/16/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Explain yourself.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26883890 - 08/16/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Deuteronomy 18:12 says that consulting mediums or channeling the dead is detestable:
9 When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
I'm interested in hearing Asante's defense of his communication with the dead, in light of the fact that consulting witches, necromancers and those with familiar spirits is forbidden in the Torah.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Hartford] 1
#26883933 - 08/16/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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And yet Christ himself is undoubtedly & undeniably Shamanic in the most classical sense of the word.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26884171 - 08/17/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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One thing I don't get about Asantes spirit guide is that he tells us we'll all be fine whereas buddha (sermon of the seven suns) and christ (revelations), both clearly tell us that the sinners and the beasties are going to be burnt into permanent death in some kind of universal fire at some point. Even Ramakrishna used to speak to god though and supposedly got the same message that we'd all be fine.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Hartford]
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Hartford said: That's an interesting explanation of that verse I haven't thought about, but I would be careful with that because you could be wrong.
Certainly God has prepared a place even better than what Asante wrote, which is wonderful, for those who love him. So this is very encouraging.
Spirit mediums are forbidden to be consulted, though. Wouldn't it be somewhat out of character for a righteous man to even consider basing his worldview off of a supposed word from the dead?
Half the bible is rewritten junk mate, Christ himself said so. Also god does like to stay up with the times what with the constant rule changing and all that.
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The whole idea of a fearful, punishing God, to me is nothing but humans putting childish human qualities onto what we imagine God to be.
Not only do we have to give the creator human qualities (a disservice to the idea of God if you ask me) but we have to make him childish, creating his minions and then punishing them for being naughty (as he created them).
A God that would rule by fear just doesn't seem right to me.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Forrester]
#26884255 - 08/17/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is it ruling by fear to pull up weeds and chuck them in the furnace if they don't do the rest of the land good? Just seems like common sense to me. A bit of land management, not sending anyone to eternal damnation though that's just a dumb abrahamic myth born of misinterpretation (partly because frankly muhamed wrote the quran so god damn badly). But why should god concern himself with your precious ego? I think maybe he just wants to see the kingdom set to rights like the rest of us, probably he ain't no boddhisattva.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26884464 - 08/17/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: One thing I don't get about Asantes spirit guide is that he tells us we'll all be fine whereas buddha (sermon of the seven suns) and christ (revelations), both clearly tell us that the sinners and the beasties are going to be burnt into permanent death in some kind of universal fire at some point. Even Ramakrishna used to speak to god though and supposedly got the same message that we'd all be fine.
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If I may, eternal damnation for the finite acts of the wicked is entirely incompatible by a God which is defuined by pure love and forgiveness. Even if there were infinite acts of wickedness, forgiveness after atonement is the only answer.
In Christian terms:
If you die, the imbalances of your life rebalance. You don't "burn for your sins" but your sins burn off of you. This is an entirely painful and very longlasting process. It is an infinity, like a DMT trip is an infinity, a boundless expanse of experience where sense of time is lost.
Purgatory. Atoning for your sins, and then ascending to Heaven where you ascend to become One with the God of your lifetime, what happens there is ineffable and after that you separate out to the next life. That is the fate of all emissions of the Source.
As science says, no energy and information can be lost from a closed system.
The spiritual relevance of this is that nothing is erased, added or separates away from the totality of everything. That means that every possible thing wil recur in every possible sequence and outcome for all eternity. All that is Me. All that is You.
Even the Devil will repent and return to the All Loving, All Forgiving, All Encompassing One and his return marks the end of the material Universe just like his falling from Heaven marked the beginning.
Even the Devil will receive no mercy from God's infinite love and can only resist it for a finite period of time.
The Everything and All is Eternally Beloved.
Sorry for that.
Every single thing is 100% essential and it is 100% essential that it stays in flux, not condemned to a dumpster fire at the edge of the universe.
You must avoid at all cost to burn too much in Purgatory, therefore you must be righteous in your lifetime, therefore you must strive to leave this workd a BETTER place as a steward of the world, and because God is Infinite Love, a Giver and Forgiver, your torments after death, like a DMT experience, will be an eternity that ends.
The only Eternity that does not end is the Tutality of Everything. That had never begun and will never end.
YOU'LL ALL BE FINE.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26885074 - 08/17/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Thus, monks, impermanent are the constituents of existence, unstable, non-eternal: so much so, that this alone is enough to weary and disgust one with all constituent things and emancipate therefrom. Therefore, monks, do those who deliberate and believe1 say this: 'This earth and Sineru, the monarch of mountains, will be burnt and perish and exist no more,' excepting those who have seen the path."
Just because a thing is burnt doesn't mean it's lost from the energetic circle. That dust can be reused anywhere. But the thing itself will be reshaped. As I understand it I cannot truly die because what I really am is the one soul (god if you like) but the forms of energy which I mistakenly have identified myself (jiva in hindu terms) could easily perish. Of course either way I'll be fine because what I am is what you are (god) but what I have made of myself will be burnt unless it is found to be good.
"57. Jesus said, "The Father's kingdom is like a person who has [good] seed. His enemy came during the night and sowed weeds among the good seed. The person did not let the workers pull up the weeds, but said to them, 'No, otherwise you might go to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' For on the day of the harvest the weeds will be conspicuous, and will be pulled up and burned." " - gospel of thomas
I'm just looking at Buddhist and Christian scripture here. Perhaps they are perverted scriptures but the message they are giving seems pretty clear.
I have been in Samadhi briefly and the message was exactly as you say "YOU'LL BE FINE" but perhaps that which I've identified myself with (jiva) will not be unless it is first purified. As Buddhist cosmology has it there are three types of destructions, one by fire, one by water, and one by wind, these go up in order in terms of rarity and devestation of destruction. The destruction by wind reaches the highest and many of the best Jiva (individual soul) do not survive this one.
So yes I'll be fine as I am god not jiva and jiva (little I) is merely a thought created illusion anyway but the constituent things (thoughts) I've mistakenly identified myself with will perish.
This is just my understanding of the general cosmological consensus in religion. It seems to me all the Abrahamic religions have this in some form and so does Buddhism. The only other religion that places any emphasis on cosmology and doesn't have this seems to be perhaps Hinduism. But at the end of the day it is all pretty confusing reading.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26885915 - 08/18/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Reward and punishment come to arise when there is no humility,,,reward and punishment feed the self ("ego" if you will) and cause it growth.
Asante, it would seem rebirth/karma believing Faith's might posit I imagine a strong karmic bond between you and your friend, as you grew up together and now hear him speak from beyond the Ash's,,,do you have any insights as to what this could be about? Or maybe I'm asking about something that only the enlightened would know! 😱
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26885980 - 08/18/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Is it ruling by fear to pull up weeds and chuck them in the furnace if they don't do the rest of the land good? Just seems like common sense to me. A bit of land management, not sending anyone to eternal damnation though that's just a dumb abrahamic myth born of misinterpretation (partly because frankly muhamed wrote the quran so god damn badly). But why should god concern himself with your precious ego? I think maybe he just wants to see the kingdom set to rights like the rest of us, probably he ain't no boddhisattva.
But this is supposing that God, being perfect, would create something that isn't perfect - so we are assuming him to be either, imperfect himself, or intentionally creating something imperfect, to be later culled?
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Forrester]
#26885995 - 08/18/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Is it ruling by fear to pull up weeds and chuck them in the furnace if they don't do the rest of the land good? Just seems like common sense to me. A bit of land management, not sending anyone to eternal damnation though that's just a dumb abrahamic myth born of misinterpretation (partly because frankly muhamed wrote the quran so god damn badly). But why should god concern himself with your precious ego? I think maybe he just wants to see the kingdom set to rights like the rest of us, probably he ain't no boddhisattva.
But this is supposing that God, being perfect, would create something that isn't perfect - so we are assuming him to be either, imperfect himself, or intentionally creating something imperfect, to be later culled?
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I think the argument usually goes something like this, God has created us and angels with free will, able to not like a dog tied to a post can go as far as the rope goes, but in expansive freedom, able to pretty much anywhere ( deeper into materiality or back to our source in God), if God didn't create in us free will we'd be like a computer programed to say " I love you" back to him but there would be no manly strength to choose love, no relationship of romance with the divine, between creator and creature, communion intellectually would be meaningless in the directly literal sense. I think this is how the argument goes. But than there's the whole Adam and Eve thing abouttree of knowledge of good and evil, that's something to the equation. And Buddhist believe and teach we are not our will/ volition, this may actually be a possibility, I don't know how this would equate though.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26886024 - 08/18/20 04:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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He is where he always was just as he is now, he is within your thoughts and memories.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: saintdextro]
#26886068 - 08/18/20 05:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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saintdextro said: I imagine a strong karmic bond between you and your friend, as you grew up together and now hear him speak from beyond the Ash's,,,do you have any insights as to what this could be about?
All his life long we were meant-to-be friends, since elementary school onward, there is karma from lives lived previous and lives lived after.
In death he asked permission to follow me, karmically, but then as he as a part of me more so than I as a part of him. Accrete him, like a black hole does a star.
He is welcome to.
Divinity put us through especially for him to fill me in on the Afterlife, where I had a big blank spot that is now filled in.
Since I was 6 Divinity has been calling upon me to write a book or rather, dictate a book to me, and if I see it is good, to have it published, a book to help the readers help themself, a medicine of words and sentences for a diseased world.
My whole life has been a preparation for it, my constant quest to find out the nature of all things.
I will channel a text that people can use to help themselves and others.
It feels close.
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#26886069 - 08/18/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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pineninja said: He is where he always was just as he is now, he is within your thoughts and memories.
The universe already happened, we're just watching reruns
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26886089 - 08/18/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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the ocean of god’s loving awareness.
Magic. The Great Perfection. The Isiest.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Forrester]
#26886104 - 08/18/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Is it ruling by fear to pull up weeds and chuck them in the furnace if they don't do the rest of the land good? Just seems like common sense to me. A bit of land management, not sending anyone to eternal damnation though that's just a dumb abrahamic myth born of misinterpretation (partly because frankly muhamed wrote the quran so god damn badly). But why should god concern himself with your precious ego? I think maybe he just wants to see the kingdom set to rights like the rest of us, probably he ain't no boddhisattva.
But this is supposing that God, being perfect, would create something that isn't perfect - so we are assuming him to be either, imperfect himself, or intentionally creating something imperfect, to be later culled?
The hindu creation myth has it that god created the world in a series of drunken mistakes due to his loneliness and newness to the world, he was feeling things out. They don't call his work of creation as perfect all over.
I remember an interview with Lee "Scratch" Perry, probably one of the highest souls out there in touch with god through direct medium (or so he claims) even he claims that god must be mad, and this world was an experiment by him.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26886110 - 08/18/20 06:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’ve gone down that route but it’s as nonsensical as the rest. Ended up right back at the beginning.
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#26886112 - 08/18/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you look at Genesis I, not to annoy people only the first 5 lines:
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1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Genesis 1:1-5
Here you see a Oneness split itself up into dualities to create the material universe.
EVERYTHING IS 100% COMPRISED OF THE GOD OF ALL THINGS, OF GENESIS 1:1.
Imagine.
Jesus was tempted in the Desert for 40 days by the Devil.
The God of All Things isthe God that is Jesus, the Devil, the Desert, the 40 days, me reciting this and you reading this.
THAT is The God Of All Things.
If Jesus steps in cat poop, Jesus is not the cat poop. The Holy Spirit, however, is Jesus, the cat poop and the stepping into.
This is why Islam says: "Jesus was a prophet, not God."
But Jesus said "I say, ‘You are gods; you are all children of the Most High." So Jesus is God in the sense of the holographic Universe, that all things are God.
There is Jesus worship, holy book worship, but its all fetishism and God said clearly "Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me."
Who, me?
THE GOD OF ALL THINGS - the higherst God because there is none greater than that of All Things, the rest are emissions, angels, not God in the absolute sense.
I had a Fetish. an actual Nail Fetish, a Nkondi from the Congo, endowed with a Spirit.

He asked me to sacrifice a rooster to my highest allegiance.
The name of the God of All Things was on my lips as I severed the roosters neck and we ate him at Christmas dinner.

My Nkondi wanted to be taken off the altar and a symbol of the God of All Things be put there in his place.
Shortly after his earthly mission was done, teaching me, and he asked to be burned so I could direct myself fully to the God of All Things and he could return to it, and such happened.

Thats where I did away with Fetishism.
The symbol I use for God is a sphere of Shungite, 2 billion years old fossilized carbon from microorganisms from very early primitive like, the shape and color of a Black Hole, the most enduring object in nthe Universe and the source of it, symbol of God as the Unformed Void.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26886129 - 08/18/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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in touch with god through direct medium
so am I and so are millions at any time in human history. So are in fact all of us without realizing it because interfacing with the Universe, yourself included, is interfacing with God.
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even he claims that god must be mad, and this world was an experiment by him.
He just doesn't understand.
God is not mad. All this is perfect, from LSD to Zyklon B.
Ask questions and I'll explain if you want to know.
He's been teaching me my whole life, in part to write a meaningful book that will be balm to the wounds of the readers.
Ask away.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26886218 - 08/18/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: I’ve gone down that route but it’s as nonsensical as the rest. Ended up right back at the beginning.
Don't think I'm going down any particular route? Just chatting the breeze, no one really knows anything for sure IMO.
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Asante said: so am I and so are millions at any time in human history. So are in fact all of us without realizing it because interfacing with the Universe, yourself included, is interfacing with God.
Best believe I know the truth of that, I've been in touch with him very directly myself for a brief period of time before all my physical chakra system burnt itself out. And yeah I have some questions I would like to PM you but I'm biding my time a bit, don't want you to wear you out or anything.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26886231 - 08/18/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If they are not too personal, just post em out in the open so others can benefit from the answers too (remember, these ain't mine)
If its super personal no one must know stuff, try IM.
I prefer by far open dialogue though, in the public eye, where its seen by many and logged into the Internet backups forever.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26886266 - 08/18/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll probably PM it to you first and then give you permission to post it up, or post it up for you whatever. Not at all concerned about whether it's personal but don't necessarily wanna take over the forum with it. We'll see how it goes.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26886739 - 08/18/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Feel free to throw it out in the open, its "that sort of thread" anyway, no problem to toss in some extra channelling, you won't pollute the thread but rather keep it going.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Asante]
#26887189 - 08/18/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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( saintdexto twiddles thumbs dyin' to snoop into Asante's PM's...what possibly could be said! )
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: saintdextro]
#26887992 - 08/19/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not ready to say anything yet, maybe not for a week or two, and it may not even be interesting or relevant to you, so have some patience.
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Re: My Best Friend, 4 days dead, tells me where he is now. [Re: Grapefruit]
#26887996 - 08/19/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No problem
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#26889997 - 08/20/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had a close friend from my past die of an overdose last year, and another friend (who knew the first and used with him) passed away for similar reasons during the early days of the quarantine.
One afternoon on an average, somewhat stressful day working from home I microdosed LSD and then took a full dose of MDMA. I was immediately apprehensive because I wasn't in a particularly good state psychologically and I hadn't carved out any space, so to speak, for a big experience.
I was suddenly and abruptly catapulted into a very connective headspace where thoughts were flowing at lightning speed and my bodily perceptions were expanding and breathing.
Long story short, I felt that I communicated somehow with these two deceased friends, as in they just took hold of my mentation. I can't interpret and recreate what they said as coherently as you have, Asante, but the gist of what they said was: You are well, here, look at all the many interconnected things in your life and how they're all part of a mysterious whole, everything fits, nothing is out of place, you can't go wrong and everything will get better and better, you'll find love, you'll explore, you'll know yourself more deeply, and all the really good stuff just keeps expanding outward infinitely, it's infinite and you're all of it, so just breathe, be here, you're here now and forever.
As could be expected given my lack of preparation (set and setting), I later experienced more dark and negative perceptions, but that shower with all that energy flowing and the certainty that my friends were well and I and everyone else in my life was well and fit perfectly together is what I'll mainly remember from that experience.
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