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#26877769 - 08/13/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've noticed my mycillium drys out rather quickly and I've been misting accordingly, my mycillium is bruising because of it drying out so fast, I pretty much mist every hour because of the fact. Anyways I was wondering if I'm getting mould or primordia or if is something all together that I am doing wrong anyways it's my first grow and my first time on the forum so go easy. Mush love
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Your explaining is totally pointless without pictures. Nobody can give you any advice without seeing the thing. Upload a pic to the site.
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26877790 - 08/13/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think I have figured it out I think. Sorry this site is janky on Mobil.
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The surface doesn't look bad overall. The patches that are blueeing are matted mycelium and this matting is precisely caused by too much misting. Now those patches are always going to look dry shortly after being misted, no matter how many times you mist. It's the way the mycelium has to protect itself from the misting assault.
Misting should be done sparingly or not at all and only when it's really necessary. When you mist, try to do it from a good distance above and at an angle, so tiny drops of moisture fall gently on the substrate.
I would quit the misting for now and leave that tub alone for a while to do its thing.
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26877798 - 08/13/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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On a happier note, I think you are gonna be seeing pins pretty soon.
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26877799 - 08/13/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright, what is a good sign I should mist again? I've read up on surface conditions however it seems to be dry literally every hour. Should I choke up the fae after misting or leave it alone?
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Also thank you brother I appreciate the speedy feedback
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Mushmouthman said: Alright, what is a good sign I should mist again? I've read up on surface conditions however it seems to be dry literally every hour. Should I choke up the fae after misting or leave it alone?
Reading up on surface conditions can be a bit of a double-edged sword for a beginner and can make you enter a state of paralysis through analysis.
Not all healthy grows are gonna show the same myc morphology on the surface of the tub and they're also gonna move water in different ways. So a surface with no water droplets at all on the surface might still be optimal for a particular culture, and by misting it for no good reason to achieve that "ideal" surface conditions look that you read about, you can actually be doing more harm than good.
You can also run into a culture where tiny drops of moisture are naturally present on the surface and maintaining that becomes easy with a prompt misting when needed. Likely, this type of cultures are going to be the perfet example of what you read on surface conditions. I'm not saying this information on surface conditions is misleading, it's just not complete IMO.
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Mushmouthman said: Alright, what is a good sign I should mist again?
You fucked up a little, surface is gonna keep looking dry on some areas, but misting more and more is gonna worsen the condition. Leave it in peace, myc won't recover if you keep misting. Everything looks fine, no need to worry.
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Mushmouthman said: Should I choke up the fae after misting or leave it alone?
Not al all, you should never choke up fae under any circumstances.
What setup are you rocking? Is that a dub tub configuration?
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26877901 - 08/13/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah 6qt dubtub, I waited until the substrate was fully colonized to start fruiting as well if that changes anything lol
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A dubtub uh? I think that's a big part of your problem then. A 6qt sub is too small for dubtubing and it's allowing a lot of air in and drying the surface much faster.
If you have the lid of that box, simply put it on normally and hopefully the surface will amend itself. No more misting.
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26877922 - 08/13/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Josex said: A dubtub uh? I think that's a big part of your problem then. A 6qt sub is too small for dubtubing and it's allowing a lot of air in and drying the surface much faster.
If you have the lid of that box, simply put it on normally and hopefully the surface will amend itself. No more misting.
Maybe a thin casing layer 🤔? Might help the mycelium drying out as much
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Yea I also think adding a lil bit of coir on top right now is a good idea and also putting the lid on, not the dubtub.
Here's a link that OP might find useful. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038695#24038695
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26877972 - 08/13/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've read a casing layer at this point will cause a bacterial problem though. I dont want to cause any issues when I've come this far ya know ✌🏼
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I don't think that's accurate information, nothing is gonna go bacterial if your grow wasn't bacterial to begin with. You should stick to the shroomery and leave those other weird places 😉
There's a thing called late casing, look it up. Your sub is already knotting up and it wouldn't be a good idea to add a coir layer on top at this point under normal circumstances. But in your case the surface is a little matted up and that extra humidity and protection from spray bottle wielders might do it a lot of good.
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26878033 - 08/13/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spray bottle wielders killed me I appreciate the help
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Would coco coir and verm be an ok thing to do and how thick roughly should it be?
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Yes it would, just a finger or less.
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Re: Help [Re: Josex]
#26878050 - 08/13/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A finger? Like girth of the finger deep?
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