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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Patlal]
#26877131 - 08/12/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Im honestly surprised BLM is OK with Biden picking a prosecutor for VP.
You dont seem to understand how identy politics work. She is black and a woman and nothing else matters, she could be literally Hitler and would still be the perfect fit for the current zeitgeist.
i unfortunately have to agree with you here
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Tulipslave]
#26877255 - 08/12/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You think she could literally be Hitler and would be a viable VP candidate as a German Nazi party leader?
The HDS is on.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: christopera] 1
#26877540 - 08/12/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Thoughts on Kamala?
She's... fine. I'll vote for Biden, reluctantly. I'm frustrated with this bullshit two-party system we have going on, but I still value democracy enough to participate in it.
As for Kamala specifically, I think it's a good thing that she represents women and people of color, which is obviously an angle Biden's campaign is trying to pander to. I think it's kind of a cheap political tactic, but I also think diverse representation in our government is a positive thing, so I can't really complain. It's the sort of thing I roll my eyes about, but I'm still happy with the consequences.
In general, that's exactly how I feel about Harris: I roll my eyes a little bit about it, but I'm still ultimately okay with the final outcome. For example, for a long time earlier in her career, she opposed legalization of marijuana in California. However, she changed positions on that eventually, and is now in favor of legal marijuana. The best way to describe it is that she followed the tides of progressive change, rather than leading the tides of progressive change, and this is a pattern you can find in many other issues she's been involved with politically (mass-incarceration, etc.). To that end, I'm frustrated that we don't have someone who has, historically, been a leader for social change as the candidate, but ultimately, I'm glad that she stands where she does now.
She also comes bundled up with the typical frustrations I have with the American Democratic party right now, which is mainly that their candidates aren't left-leaning enough for me to fully support their policies. When it comes to the military and government social programs, Democrats aren't left-leaning enough for me. The mainstream candidate I supported the most at the very beginning of this election season was Bernie Sanders. I'm still sad about what could have been if we weren't so focused on beating Trump that we overlooked discussion of actual policies.
Finally, I'll say that I think that choosing Kamala Harris was an enormous risk in light of recent events: namely, the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement. Harris is a former police officer and, more recently, a state prosecutor. In other words, she participated in the systemically racist institutions that led to the uprising of BLM. I'm very concerned that this is going to hurt Biden's campaign, especially with the younger generations.
Time will tell if this was a good enough choice to win the election. Should be interesting either way 
She never has and never will represent women and people of color, not gonna happen. She going to represent corporate interests, the very rich, the military industrial complex, the criminal justice system and piss on the working class.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: qman] 2
#26877642 - 08/12/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Kamala Is A Cop Except For Billionaire Banksters!"
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Patlal]
#26877662 - 08/12/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its almost like Trump and Biden should go on Jerry Springer before election day. Voting at its finest.
"Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry!"
Can you imagine Trump and Kamala picking up chairs to throw at each other while Biden sleeps through the whole thing?
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: qman]
#26877670 - 08/12/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Thoughts on Kamala?
She's... fine. I'll vote for Biden, reluctantly. I'm frustrated with this bullshit two-party system we have going on, but I still value democracy enough to participate in it.
As for Kamala specifically, I think it's a good thing that she represents women and people of color, which is obviously an angle Biden's campaign is trying to pander to. I think it's kind of a cheap political tactic, but I also think diverse representation in our government is a positive thing, so I can't really complain. It's the sort of thing I roll my eyes about, but I'm still happy with the consequences.
In general, that's exactly how I feel about Harris: I roll my eyes a little bit about it, but I'm still ultimately okay with the final outcome. For example, for a long time earlier in her career, she opposed legalization of marijuana in California. However, she changed positions on that eventually, and is now in favor of legal marijuana. The best way to describe it is that she followed the tides of progressive change, rather than leading the tides of progressive change, and this is a pattern you can find in many other issues she's been involved with politically (mass-incarceration, etc.). To that end, I'm frustrated that we don't have someone who has, historically, been a leader for social change as the candidate, but ultimately, I'm glad that she stands where she does now.
She also comes bundled up with the typical frustrations I have with the American Democratic party right now, which is mainly that their candidates aren't left-leaning enough for me to fully support their policies. When it comes to the military and government social programs, Democrats aren't left-leaning enough for me. The mainstream candidate I supported the most at the very beginning of this election season was Bernie Sanders. I'm still sad about what could have been if we weren't so focused on beating Trump that we overlooked discussion of actual policies.
Finally, I'll say that I think that choosing Kamala Harris was an enormous risk in light of recent events: namely, the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement. Harris is a former police officer and, more recently, a state prosecutor. In other words, she participated in the systemically racist institutions that led to the uprising of BLM. I'm very concerned that this is going to hurt Biden's campaign, especially with the younger generations.
Time will tell if this was a good enough choice to win the election. Should be interesting either way 
She never has and never will represent women and people of color, not gonna happen. She going to represent corporate interests, the very rich, the military industrial complex, the criminal justice system and piss on the working class.
Yes but if she is VP a little black girl somewhere will be like "I can be President too one day when I grow up."
Isn't it all worth it all the corruption and money and lies and evil broken promises to inspire the lives of other people and change the country by total coincidence as people live stronger lives based on the inspiration they believe they are getting from the country's VP? That is why people believed in Obama. Not because he was actually a good President but because of what he represented. And by golly people said their lives were changed getting up every day and living under the leadership of an African American.
Maybe it can happen again. Unless that is the wrong reason to vote for someone. But that is pretty much the reason to vote for Trump right? Because he is less of a pussy then someone else? Not that his decisions are great but because he is about money and business and confidence and he represents strong aggressive leadership while others will crumble.
95% of people who vote have no idea what they are voting for. Its a vote about ideals and which candidate appears to hold the ideals the person values the most.
In which case I would vote for Biden because he represents the ideals of the African American community and was Obama's VP. But if we are voting for which candidate has the best track record of being a competent leader in politics neither candidate to me has done shit but brag about their failures as though they represent someone else's mistakes they corrected. Yet even that is a lie because their own mistakes someone elses mistakes which need to be corrected never seem to be fixed by the President anyway.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: imachavel]
#26877693 - 08/12/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thats terrible reasoning dude. And i have a feeling you're only saying that because Biden said it in his speech today
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123]
#26877746 - 08/13/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't watch Biden's fucking speeches. Which part did Biden say in this speech? How he is a full of shit representation of a greater dream? A total hollow reflection of something believe he is? I would love to see that clip
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: imachavel]
#26877795 - 08/13/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes but if she is VP a little black girl somewhere will be like "I can be President too one day when I grow up."
Biden said that in his speech today. But if you didn't see it, you didn't see it 
I just think people should be picked based on merit, not because you enjoy playing the optics of pandering to minorities.
I actually think its kinda funny they keep playing up the colored female card because if they didn't tell you that she in fact was part black, you wouldn't know any better. Its kinda weird how being black is the most important part. Like Obama was half and half yet they only cared and talked about the 1 half
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123] 1
#26877832 - 08/13/20 03:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jeez you got a chip on your shoulder
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: koods] 1
#26877836 - 08/13/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm looking forward to watching her tear them apart.
She's clearly going to be th standout player on the field. Her team mate is sluggish and will want the ball in her hands.
Her biggest mistake right now would be something along the "deplorables" line.
I do not agree with this next sentences reality but it is so. She must tread very carefully as a black women to not overeach here....for many fucked up reasons.
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When trump first found out about covid he wasted crucial amounts of time by calling it "another russian hoax" since then hes done everything he can to not devide people into mask wearers and antimaskers. Telling people not to believe science. rump has already killed more people then could have been saved and people like you helped him kill people so the sentiment is returned. Obviously Trump didn't work, look where it got us. You blamed Obama for the state of the US but refuse to hold Trump to any of the same standard truth is you don't care if more people die because you have to have your way politically.
Many people will never forget Trump voters in this particular moment in history either. We have people here that lost family and friends and any hoax talk is spitting in the faces of grieving families and laughing at their suffering. It will go down in history as one first world society ignoring science in favor of politics. It'll say how many people died, how the rest of the world managed it and the anti maskers and Trump supports became akin to millions of typhoid Mary's and literally are advocating more death and longer lockdown/businesses collapsing as people are dying and businesses collapse.
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i dont ever recall trump ever saying the invisible Chinese virus was a Russian hoax or did he ever tell people not to believe science. What a make believe post
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: MagicMush123]
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He thinks criticism of his response is a hoax. He only cares about how the pandemic plays politically. He’s a psychopath.
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I just think people should be picked based on merit
Yet you are for Donald Trump?
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: qman] 1
#26877937 - 08/13/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Terrible choice, maybe among the worst he could have made.
Yet, it's a smart choice to win the election. Harris is a non-white female, it doesn't get any better. She also is a good public speaker, much better than Biden or Trump.
Is she a nasty Establishment cunt? Absolutely, but the vast majority of the voting population doesn't look at it in those terms.
Yup
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26877948 - 08/13/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Harris has a stronger progressive voting record than even Bernie, at least in some cases. I guess maybe the Dems have propped her up as some middle of the road Dem, but her voting record says otherwise. While I understand that her criminal reform policy is lacking, the doesn't make her a worse candidate than somebody like Hillary or Tim Kaine.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: qman]
#26877953 - 08/13/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: Trump has never been in any kind of position where he had to be held responsible for his actions or accountable to another human being . That’s why he’s such a worthless piece of shit and sucks at everything .
It's time to recover from the TDS, there's just a few months left at this point. Why keep going down that hole, move on already.
Sorry, I can't help you with that one. These are the funnest of times. I have dreams of an electoral slaughter.
After the Democrats take power things will be all fucked up again, and they will only be able to blame it all on Trump for a little while. But there will be Trump's rest of his life in court to cheer me up.
And to the people who are complaining that he picked someone based on race and gender instead of the most qualified person, when has anyone ever picked a VP candidate based on them being the most qualified? They are picked to help win the election, period. Some people are just pissed off because she's female and black; and apparently Asian, but I didn't know that till yesterday.
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Re: Kamala Harris gets the veep pick. [Re: Brian Jones]
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Pretty much every democratic VP going back almost to at least LBJ have had the best credentials and often even groomed for years sfor the position. Hell u could even throw dick Cheney in. His selection wasn't based on party politics but simple he was the slipperies snake in the grass most qualified to get the job done. But yah almost every democratic VP has been a solid pick where as Republicans typically pick purely political running mates.
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