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Penis envy grow
#26877380 - 08/12/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have 3 PE tub each a different configuration. One EZdial one Unmodified and one with standard hole configuration. All tubs 100% colonization and a casing layer. The first casing layer colonized and I just put another last casing layer. Hopefully more fatties follow πππ
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26877396 - 08/12/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The bright white patches are kind concerning. I'm not the best at identifying contams from pictures unless it's green. Perhaps someone else will chime in.
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I agree with Tight Lunchbox, the white patches need some further inspection. Could be blobbing or could be trich?
I am curious to your results as i am also running a PE test with 3 configurations. I also didnt case 1 of them.
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: maxmush]
#26877472 - 08/12/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The second picture is a tub that has only casing layer. I believe that maybe a bacterial infection but there were several knots so I cased it just to seeπ I will post updates
Edited by seand04 (08/12/20 08:16 PM)
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26877480 - 08/12/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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seand04
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Tight Lunchbox said: The bright white patches are kind concerning. I'm not the best at identifying contams from pictures unless it's green. Perhaps someone else will chime in.
Two of the three tubs were cased and the mycelium ate it. This is the second casing layer on those two. A late casing layer on the one with the places water pooled, but I will let it ride πππ Fruiting conditions at 7/29 first casing 8/4(first 2) final casing today.
Edited by seand04 (08/12/20 08:59 PM)
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26877717 - 08/12/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Best of luck man! Looking forward to seeing progress pics
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Got a couple pins in the Ez dial tub.
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26893665 - 08/22/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26893701 - 08/22/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks nice so far. PE takes a frustrating amount of patience, but it's very rewarding once it finally starts to fruit
I did my first PE grow without any casing. The yield was solid, but a ton of blobs and mutants. Are you using a peat moss/verm casing? I've got clone PE jars colonizing right now and plan to case this new batch so I'm quite curious to see how your pinset turns out
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: meowjinx]
#26893720 - 08/22/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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meowjinx said: Looks nice so far. PE takes a frustrating amount of patience, but it's very rewarding once it finally starts to fruit
I did my first PE grow without any casing. The yield was solid, but a ton of blobs and mutants. Are you using a peat moss/verm casing? I've got clone PE jars colonizing right now and plan to case this new batch so I'm quite curious to see how your pinset turns out
I did a coir verm casing. I am going to clone the biggest ones to agar plates, see how it goes.
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26894091 - 08/22/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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meowjinx said: Looks nice so far. PE takes a frustrating amount of patience, but it's very rewarding once it finally starts to fruit
I did my first PE grow without any casing. The yield was solid, but a ton of blobs and mutants. Are you using a peat moss/verm casing? I've got clone PE jars colonizing right now and plan to case this new batch so I'm quite curious to see how your pinset turns out
I did a coir verm casing. I am going to clone the biggest ones to agar plates, see how it goes.
Ah ok, yeah I grew mine on pure coir and did a "pseudocasing" or top layer of coir. They colonized the shit out of it, obviously. For my next grow I plan on doing a peat/verm/lime casing
Definitely take some clones. It's a fairly easy process and it'll let you quickly roll over into your next grow
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: meowjinx]
#26894151 - 08/22/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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meowjinx said: Looks nice so far. PE takes a frustrating amount of patience, but it's very rewarding once it finally starts to fruit
I did my first PE grow without any casing. The yield was solid, but a ton of blobs and mutants. Are you using a peat moss/verm casing? I've got clone PE jars colonizing right now and plan to case this new batch so I'm quite curious to see how your pinset turns out
I did a coir verm casing. I am going to clone the biggest ones to agar plates, see how it goes.
Ah ok, yeah I grew mine on pure coir and did a "pseudocasing" or top layer of coir. They colonized the shit out of it, obviously. For my next grow I plan on doing a peat/verm/lime casing
Definitely take some clones. It's a fairly easy process and it'll let you quickly roll over into your next grow
Next time I am gonna try and get some peat moss for the casing layer instead of coir. I am thinking for my next PE monotubs agar>wbs>coir>peat/verm casing layer
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26894187 - 08/22/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like a solid plan
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26894195 - 08/22/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im gonna try the Jiffy Mix next time. I did a CVG and straight coir. The CVG worked ok but the plain coir didnt really work well. Myc just ate through it.
Harvested the first flush (lots of upside down mutants lol) and averaged 80g wet each.
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: maxmush]
#26894199 - 08/22/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It helps to case late too
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Agreed. My best tubs were cased a min. 1 week after 100% with CVG. There is a lot of room for improvement however
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I agree. I usually wait about 8 days
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26894258 - 08/22/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anyone else get this dark coloration on the caps?
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26894277 - 08/22/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sub too wet
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Ok. No more misting then. Gonna turn down the ac. I have them facing away from the ac, but its still in the same room cause it gets super hot here.
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26894290 - 08/22/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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meowjinx said: Looks nice so far. PE takes a frustrating amount of patience, but it's very rewarding once it finally starts to fruit
I did my first PE grow without any casing. The yield was solid, but a ton of blobs and mutants. Are you using a peat moss/verm casing? I've got clone PE jars colonizing right now and plan to case this new batch so I'm quite curious to see how your pinset turns out
I did a coir verm casing. I am going to clone the biggest ones to agar plates, see how it goes.
Ah ok, yeah I grew mine on pure coir and did a "pseudocasing" or top layer of coir. They colonized the shit out of it, obviously. For my next grow I plan on doing a peat/verm/lime casing
Definitely take some clones. It's a fairly easy process and it'll let you quickly roll over into your next grow
Next time I am gonna try and get some peat moss for the casing layer instead of coir. I am thinking for my next PE monotubs agar>wbs>coir>peat/verm casing layer
Sounds good. Just remember that if you use straight-up sphagnum peat moss bags that you will need to balance the acidic pH somehow. Hydrated lime is the way I've seen it done in the teks I've read. Check out Lotkid's post, this is basically what I plan to do:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24558634
I believe that the pre-made jiffy mix stuff already comes pH balanced, so you could get that like how maxmush is doing
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: meowjinx]
#26894314 - 08/22/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jiffy mix is in the yellow bag right?
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26894376 - 08/22/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah it says 5050 seed starter mix or something.
Idk if itβs from no casing or airflow or what but I feel like somethings off. The surface is really well colonized it seems like it should have a ton more pins.
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: A.k.a]
#26894463 - 08/22/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That was from dry surface conditions
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I was having the same issues - really healthy looking and well colonized sub with zero pins. This is when i decided to case it them at intervals 3 days, 5 days and 7 days. The later casing with CVG worked the best. The casing layer clearly helped the surface conditions enough to have pins starting only a few days later. I will try Jiffy next (are you guys pasteurizing this?)
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: maxmush]
#26894680 - 08/23/20 01:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah it says 5050 seed starter mix or something.
Idk if itβs from no casing or airflow or what but I feel like somethings off. The surface is really well colonized it seems like it should have a ton more pins.
That is why I initially assumed he had done a peat-based casing, because mature fruits were surrounded by myc but not a bunch of knots or pins
I figured that it looked that way because of the staggered way he added casing layers, could be that the fruits we see originated from knots that had already formed on a layer underneath the late, top-most casing and "pushed through" it
Dunno if that makes sense or is even possible, tbh. Or it could just be uneven surface conditions or genetic variability. I had similar instances w/ my coir pseudcasings of certain spots fruiting much faster, like 1-2 weeks, before the rest of the tub would catch up
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#26895487 - 08/23/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Today's growth. I am gonna clone the last one. The biggest one
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26895513 - 08/23/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Next time cut holes in your tub. A proper mono is much easier to regulate airflow while keeping all that valuable humidity
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tryptkaloids said: Next time cut holes in your tub. A proper mono is much easier to regulate airflow while keeping all that valuable humidity
I have 1 unmodified. 1 Ez dial. 1 regular. The unmodified has the most then the ez then the regular oneπ€·ββοΈ
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26895549 - 08/23/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im guessing they were MS? Maybe you just got bad MS luck but all my PE has had better pinsets. I'd be interested to see the spawn that made them
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Yea , i have gotten better pin sets. Those were g2g but I am going to be doing agar from now on. This is the spawn. MS jars that I have used for g2g 3 times
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Is it ok to late case after you have seen pins??
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yes.
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i wouldn't advise casing past a first flush though
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700g fresh off the first 2π€·ββοΈ
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26897255 - 08/24/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice, nice. Those are some thicc bois. Congrats
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meowjinx said: Nice, nice. Those are some thicc bois. Congrats
Thanks brother
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Re: Penis envy grow [Re: seand04]
#26897530 - 08/24/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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nice 
Mine are all mutants lol growing upside down cap first etc
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