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temp problems and trick
    #26875766 - 08/11/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So my question is that if I have clean spawn and monotubs fully colonize and flush great. And others trick after first flush could that be caused by heat and over feild capacity. I usually do many tubs at once an sometimes they will be over feild capacity not by to much but I say fuck it an spawn it anyways. Could that be where my trick problem is coming from. I have also noticed light colonization on the overly wet subs. is that because the myc get weaker cause of that. and bacteria and trick thrive in the hotter temps. and my myc is losing the battle. Cause I'm pretty confident my spawn is clean


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Re: temp problems and trick [Re: Mycobro420]
    #26876367 - 08/12/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trick? Do you mean Trich? Just so you know, if you see a green mold, it might not be Trichoderma, look also into Penicillium and Aspergillus.

Too high temperatures and too wet substrates weaken the mycelium, which could lead to contamination. If you get the contamination after 1st flush, there is a chance that it really is not caused by dirty spawn, although having clean spawn is the no.1 thing to do.

What are your temperatures? Keep in mind that the mycelium expels heat, so the temperature inside tub can be a few degrees higher than the temp outside.

You should try to get the field capacity down, its pretty important and not hard at all. I would suggest writing down your "recipe", and adjusting it until its right.

For my cvg i use: 1 brick coir (700g if im not mistaken), 4L boiling water, 2L medium-sized verm, 100ml gypsum.


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Re: temp problems and trick [Re: Ombisha]
    #26876448 - 08/12/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Lol ya trich I have Ben saying trick for too long now.my recipe is same as your IV been getting irritated so I weigh my coir now but I do 650 grams coir that's how they come from eco earth. My temps sadly with the hot summer months has reached a high of 86. I know that's horrible. I do all research an my buddy watches it an fucks up all the time. I have flow hood I read extensively. And very careful with sterile Tek. I'm convinced that it has to do with feild capacity and my hi temps.and it pisses me off that I can't figure out exactly what is wrong cause I can't watch my own grow. My Petri dishes have good rizo growth. My qt jars of grain take about 21-25 day I only use 1/4 dish to inoculate at jar. I g2g both bags and more qt jars. They take about 14 days to fully colonize. Then wen put to bulk the monotub colonized in 7-10 days so I know my myc isn't weak. I just don't see where my problems lie.so that's y I am here looking for advice


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Re: temp problems and trick [Re: Mycobro420]
    #26876483 - 08/12/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, all the CVG recipes I see here make me end up quite a bit over field capacity. I'm assuming its differences in climate and particular coir/verm. I usually dial back the water by about 1/8 and it ends up right.


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Re: temp problems and trick [Re: ItsaMeShroomio]
    #26876489 - 08/12/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ya I'm convinced it had to be that cause I see zero problem with colonization time. Regardless from jars to bags to bulk in tubs.if it's over feild capacity I try to squeeze it out but never works fully. So in my head I figured it has to be that mixed with high temps that's turning my grows bad


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Re: temp problems and trick [Re: Mycobro420]
    #26876491 - 08/12/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If u guys can try to figure out anything else wrong please let me know but I do everything to the book


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Re: temp problems and trick [Re: Mycobro420]
    #26876704 - 08/12/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When our temp went above 28c it was a disaster. Lost 50% of the tubs :frown: again we feel our spawn was also clean


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