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Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please..
#26875119 - 08/11/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Long story short, inoculated 5 UB bens in a very untidy way, 2 out of 5 smelled like farts, and I am debating chucking the rest. It's day 6 btw.
I still have 5 more bags to go, and will give these a shot before I attempt other, superior teks.
Anyways, my question is, when building a SAB, do you only suggest I spray water before inoculation? Should I clean the SAB with alcohol?
Does it really matter if I use the top of the SAB or the bottom as the base?
Sorry for the noob questions, just completely new to this. Thanks guys.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26875132 - 08/11/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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rickomalley238 said: Anyways, my question is, when building a SAB, do you only suggest I spray water before inoculation? Should I clean the SAB with alcohol?
Does it really matter if I use the top of the SAB or the bottom as the base?
Sorry for the noob questions, just completely new to this. Thanks guys.
1.) Yeah you should probably spray with soapy water (talking maybe a drop or two of soap per 500 mL) before working in an SAB. As for wiping it down with iso, you can if you have the time and iso on hand. I wouldn't say its required. I would wipe mine down every now and then, but not every time.
2.) No it doesn't matter whether you use the top or bottom as the base. It's just that sometimes using the top as the base sucks cause it's not flat and using the bottom doesnt give you much room if it's a bin that tapers to a slightly smaller area bottom section. I suggest ditching the lid and turning the tub/bin upside down on a table.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Gan]
#26875136 - 08/11/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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we told u this the other night now do u wanna listen
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Gan]
#26875138 - 08/11/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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rickomalley238 said: Anyways, my question is, when building a SAB, do you only suggest I spray water before inoculation? Should I clean the SAB with alcohol?
Does it really matter if I use the top of the SAB or the bottom as the base?
Sorry for the noob questions, just completely new to this. Thanks guys.
1.) Yeah you should probably spray with soapy water (talking maybe a drop or two of soap per 500 mL) before working in an SAB. As for wiping it down with iso, you can if you have the time and iso on hand. I wouldn't say its required. I would wipe mine down every now and then, but not every time.
2.) No it doesn't matter whether you use the top or bottom as the base. It's just that sometimes using the top as the base sucks cause it's not flat and using the bottom doesnt give you much room if it's a bin that tapers to a slightly smaller area bottom section. I suggest ditching the lid and turning the tub/bin upside down on a table.
Glad to see you've left the dark side to come to the light
Thanks, man. Do you spray w/ water literally right before you begin working?
Also, my work area, like I mentioned, had 2 contaminated bags. I didn't open them or anything, just smelled them. Assuming I wipe down the desk it was on, is this area safe to use or will it be contam'd?
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: jcm4620]
#26875140 - 08/11/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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jcm4620 said: we told u this the other night now do u wanna listen
Ya, no argument... I suppose you recommend I toss the rest of the bags? Currently researching SABs.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26875164 - 08/11/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I normally would wipe down everything with iso, put it inside my SAB, spray SAB with soapy water, cover the holes and go chill for 10-15 minutes or so then go back and do my SAB work. Towards the end of my SAB work I was going at it dry with no spraying but I think starting off it's good to spray. Just remember, your sterile technique is the most important thing by far. You'll have some issues starting off and you'll probably wanna blame them on everything but yourself (I did at least) but it probably is from bad technique/movement. Assuming it's not from spores itself.
And that location will be fine. The point of an SAB is that you can work in some pretty fucked places. I've seen people around here do perfect sterile work in places I probably wouldn't even wanna live because they have good sterile technique. I'd say just spray it down and clean it quick maybe.
Here's a good link for making an SAB https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23990888#23990888
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Gan]
#26875176 - 08/11/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26875238 - 08/11/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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rickomalley238 said:
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jcm4620 said: we told u this the other night now do u wanna listen
Ya, no argument... I suppose you recommend I toss the rest of the bags? Currently researching SABs.
good deal man ditch that shit and redit all together il fetch ya that link again hold up
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: jcm4620]
#26875241 - 08/11/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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here u go man it says everything u need in one spot and there is sab info and well everything you need😃👍
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
Edited by jcm4620 (08/11/20 02:43 PM)
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: jcm4620] 1
#26875308 - 08/11/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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And another convert arises from the mold of the easy paths.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26875428 - 08/11/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome, OP. The community fully supports you.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Tight Lunchbox]
#26875435 - 08/11/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome to successland. Where you might get told to throw your grow out but it's because were nicer than lying to you.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26875447 - 08/11/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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u should have posted your comeback in the thread from the other day so it could be used as an example to others lol. but all that matters is you saw the light and your willing to give it a try the way that will work. and you have ppl here that kno wtf their talkin about to help ya do it👍😃
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: mushboy]
#26875491 - 08/11/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just want to say the other bags smell nice and earthy and green... so it's still not a complete bust.. I will update though
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26875657 - 08/11/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: mushboy]
#26875705 - 08/11/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Told ya, 🤙
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Wall.E]
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Wall.E]
#26875785 - 08/11/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Myc_Hunt said: Told ya, 🤙
I said in the last thread here I expect say, 50% contams, especially with my method. But if the others go through proper, well...
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26875792 - 08/11/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Welcome to successland. Where you might get told to throw your grow out but it's because were nicer than lying to you.
Can't throw out grain that smells like earthy mushroom dude!
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26875793 - 08/11/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trichoderma smells earthy.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#26875798 - 08/11/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The best way to learn is from your mistakes. I found this forum a long time ago and I’m glad I did. I went from knowing nothing to picking mushrooms in 2 months in a greenhouse. This forum and these people will get you running just fine. Enjoy the ride, search and read the TEKs. Everything seems more simple this time around.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238]
#26875804 - 08/11/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya but 50% is absolutely terrible failure rate and we cant have that. i say lets get ya up to like 90% success or somewhere around there and thats more than do able if you follow the proper sterile procedures combined with good cultivation methods and the foundation of a good grow is clean spawn. that is absolutely the number one thing you need to have. thats why uncle bens is a terrible way to go about it still air box or not. id rather even see someone buy premade grain than use that silly shit. especially once it comes time to spawning you want good strong grains to work with not shit thats just gnna bust and burst every grain when u spawn it. but you can always go with the pf tek and id suggest doing that for a first grow. its very easy and a good way to learn
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: jcm4620]
#26875809 - 08/11/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Throw all of those bags of rice out and start fresh. I have never seen it work. I tried it as a noob and they all ended up in the trash. Couldn't even get it to work with agar.
Dont fuck around for months trying to inoculate grains with spores. Start agar NOW.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: CocaineBuffet]
#26875832 - 08/11/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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CocaineBuffet said: Throw all of those bags of rice out and start fresh. I have never seen it work. I tried it as a noob and they all ended up in the trash. Couldn't even get it to work with agar.
Dont fuck around for months trying to inoculate grains with spores. Start agar NOW.
if no agar go pf tek
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: jcm4620]
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: jcm4620]
#26875834 - 08/11/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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CocaineBuffet said: Throw all of those bags of rice out and start fresh. I have never seen it work. I tried it as a noob and they all ended up in the trash. Couldn't even get it to work with agar.
Dont fuck around for months trying to inoculate grains with spores. Start agar NOW.
if no agar go pf tek
What if I don't have PC?
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26875835 - 08/11/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Trichoderma smells earthy.
Lmao well that's a buzzkill. Guess we'll see if it turns green.
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: rickomalley238] 1
#26875838 - 08/11/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Steam the cakes with a stock pot I already mentioned that
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Re: Some Uncle Ben's bags smelled like farts, time for a new approach, advice with SAB and more please.. [Re: Gan]
#26875858 - 08/11/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ya you can steam the shit outta them but its better to have a pc is all. but no agar no pc def go pf tek and if u like it then u can progress into bulk. pf tek will still give you more mushrooms than the name that not be mentioned🤭 but i started out with pf tek as did many others its a great way to learn and to grow mushrooms. for yourself and maybe a few friends pending on how many cakes you do but jars are sold by the dozen so id make 12 to start with
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