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Making Monotubs with Liners * 9
    #26874924 - 08/11/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Making Monotubs with Liners
While liners are great for preventing bottom/side pins, they also make harvesting and cleanup much easier. They allow you to remove a full canopy, which you can then harvest with an electric knife or scissors much easier than having to do it inside the tub. And when the tub is spent, you can simply lift out or slide out the liner into a trash bag, leaving nothing behind to cleanup. Having 10-20 monos going at any time, this is a necessity, or I would spend way too long mixing, harvesting, and cleaning tubs. Please ask if you have any questions!


You Will Need:
- monotub (any design will do, I use the standard holes with micropore tape as a FAE regulator)
- heavy duty lawn and leaf bags (thinner ones will break when you attempt to mix the grains or lift a substrate out of the tub)
- coir / cvg
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- scissors

Process:
- Open your lawn and leaf bag in your mono
- Mix up and dump your grains into the bag
- Measure out approximately 6 quarts of coir and add it to the bag
- Pick up bag and twist it closed
- Toss the contents on the bag around to evenly and thoroughly mix the contents
- Drop bag back in the mono
- Grab the bottom two corners and pull them up (the idea here is the bottom of the bag has creases and won't sit flat. so we pull the bottom corners up so the contents is sitting on the middle of the bag, where it will lay flat)
- Roughly push the contents of the bag out to the corners of the tub (from the outside of the bag, hands not in substrate at this point)
- Use scissors to rough-cut the excess bag off
- Using your hand, level out the surface of the substrate
- Use a razor blade to make a vertical cut along the 4 corners of the bag inside the tub (SEE NEW HOT KNIFE VIDEO BELOW TOO!)
- Use a razor blade to make horizontal cuts around the top of the substrate, and below the holes
- Grab 3 handfuls of coir / cvg to add as a top layer on top of the grains, using your hand to even out the surface
- Tape up your holes and wait patiently for fruits


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NEW UPDATE! Edmunter's Hot Knife Trimming Method:

Edited by Munchauzen (01/24/23 05:52 PM)

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26874948 - 08/11/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Great!

Love them liners 

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Goatrider]
    #26874966 - 08/11/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice write-up and vid to go with it. Never thought to put all the sub/spawn mix in the trash bag and premix before going into the tub. Def will give it a try next round. :rockon:


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #26874977 - 08/11/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Its a super fast way to get everything perfectly mixed with no fuss.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26874991 - 08/11/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Speakin' my language, Munch. I'm sure this is one of those "damn, why didn't I try or think of this sooner" kind of things. I've spent so much unnecessary time in my tubs, mixing by hand, ensuring no clumps at the bottom or lack of grain mixed evenly throughout. All I needed to do was put it in a bag and give it a good whirl. Duh. :facepalm3: But also, ty. :yesnod:


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #26875000 - 08/11/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It's as always,
the easiest things are the hardest to catch :grin:

I'm sure i'll do this from now on :thumbup:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Goatrider]
    #26875008 - 08/11/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ya the traditional liner methods all seemed to be like... measure the liner out, cut it, place it, then fill it. Seemed easier to me to fill it first, then trim it down.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26875017 - 08/11/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

As someone that learns well from watching, I've always loved your vids, Munch. Hope you keep them coming :rockon:

I've never used liners, but I'm going to try this method on the next tub I spawn. The ease of harvest seems too much to pass on.

It seems like the liner sticks to the side of the sub as it shrinks a bit. Does this always happen? If so, is there anything special to do in order for that to happen? Or does it happen naturally if you set it all up correctly?


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Gan]
    #26875035 - 08/11/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I timed harvesting my last round of tubs and with an electric bread knife I was able to harvest all my full canopies in 5 minutes each. Using scissors I typically take about 20 minutes each.

the mycelium will just kind of grab onto the plastic as it colonizes so the liner will shrink pretty much always with the substrate so you don't really have to do anything besides having clean spawn.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26875106 - 08/11/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hot damn Munch, this is some 800 IQ stuff right here. You just cut my time to spawn a tub in 1/3. Awesome job as always, and thanks a ton for sharing.

Electric knife is also a great bit of info. I've wondered about them, good to know they work!


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Rapjack]
    #26875120 - 08/11/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I will film my next harvest with it!

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen] * 2
    #26875150 - 08/11/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Instead of trash bags, get a roll of black plastic sheeting from the paint department. Get the 3 foot wide roll. Its way more durable then your average trash bag, and its way easier to cut out then using the wider length rolls.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26875156 - 08/11/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I will film my next harvest with it!




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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Spirit-Crusher]
    #26875161 - 08/11/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Instead of trash bags, get a roll of black plastic sheeting from the paint department. Get the 3 foot wide roll. Its way more durable then your average trash bag, and its way easier to cut out then using the wider length rolls.



I'm mixing the grains and coir inside the bag. Can't feasibly do that with a sheet, right? durability and ease of cut has never been an issue with the brand shown.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Spirit-Crusher]
    #26875173 - 08/11/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice.  Vid is great.  Ez P-ez

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: fahtster]
    #26875217 - 08/11/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Good stuff dude.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Josex]
    #26875229 - 08/11/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I like it.
Thanks Munchauzen!

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Josex]
    #26875236 - 08/11/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Such a clean easy method to mix it. Wow :mindblown:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Quadryder] * 1
    #26875453 - 08/11/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

when you make a bunch of these on a regular basis, you find the shortcuts

my original method had me dumping grains into bucket tek coir and mixing it in the bucket, then pour from the bucket. but then I needed to make 20 tubs and didnt have 20 5 gallons... so I used a bigass rubbermaid to mix up 7 blocks worth, which does like 10-11 monos with my method. I had considered using a 5 gallon to mix all the tubs then pour them out individually, but figured that would cross-contaminate if any bags were bad. so this was my solution to mix in mass quickly without cross contamination.

when I make my tubs, I do these steps 10x at a time. so I'll open 10 garbage bags, cut open and dump 10 grains bags, mix all of 10 of them, etc... so its like a batch process err assembly line, not just one tub at a time. It goes a bit quicker that way.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26875697 - 08/11/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Do you find that the sub loses a lot of moisture that runs down the walls and underneath the liner? Also does using a liner like this eliminate the possibility of bottom watering or is there a way to still do that?


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Sherlock Shrooms]
    #26875753 - 08/11/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't say a lot. My tubs seem to be dialed in pretty spot on, but ya there is usually a bit of water in the bottom when I go to harvest. I'll dump that stuff out before I dunk it.

If you wanted to bottom water you could pull the liner back after it shrinks and pour it between the sub and liner, I guess.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26875770 - 08/11/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

@munchauzen Thanks very much for this easy to follow instruction and video on lining a monotub. I'm very much a n00b at this, having just one grow completed using brf jars. For my second grow, I want to move to monotub and your post will help me. Thanks!


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26875797 - 08/11/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice man I love your mix in the bag and use while bag I usually cut mine into pieces. One question tho I saw you covered your grains with coir but left some exposed does that ever cause your problems. Wen I leave any exposed Berry's they usual excrete metabolites from the exposed grains

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Mycobro420]
    #26875970 - 08/11/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don't stress over covering every grain perfectly. As long as its clean, it shouldn't be excreting anything. But the idea is to use the coir as a mulch layer on top to retain moisture and impede evaporation to an ideal rate.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26876452 - 08/12/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ya sometimes I will see little yellow spots not many but I believe it's myco piss mabey bacteria. Iv had problems with temp this summer. I believe I have clean cultures. But I always doubt my self.have pulled off good yeild but always looking to learn and improve

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Mycobro420]
    #26876739 - 08/12/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I feel like having a two-digit iq now, with a comma between the numbers :crazy:
I'm just in shoeboxes today and always do a liner.
As i always fill them to the rim, and place them 3 in a row in a big tub,
mixing up in the box was always a little messy.

It was...:biggrin:

Thank you again for that eye-opener!

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Goatrider]
    #26876860 - 08/12/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl:

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thats neat lets see the shoeboxes!

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26877000 - 08/12/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Very nice, Munchauzen! Will definitely use this technique on my next tub.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26877502 - 08/12/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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thats neat lets see the shoeboxes!




Just inoculated some AA+ plates :rockon:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Goatrider]
    #26884594 - 08/17/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:bump2:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26895910 - 08/23/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Really cool way of doing liners man.  Very efficient and easy.  That soundtrack made it all the much nicer too :cool:


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Psicomb]
    #26896256 - 08/24/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What a great method! Im doing my first monotub right now, just made my spawn yesterday, so im brand new. I was thinking if the trash bag was clean Enough without being cleaned with isopropyl? Thought i had to do that Before spawning my sub

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26896829 - 08/24/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

How much grain do you use Munchauzen?

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Psychedelicjunkie]
    #26896942 - 08/24/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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What a great method! Im doing my first monotub right now, just made my spawn yesterday, so im brand new. I was thinking if the trash bag was clean Enough without being cleaned with isopropyl? Thought i had to do that Before spawning my sub




Nope. Iso has no place in spawning to bulk since the process is not meant to be super sanitary.
Some say picking your nose and farting your ass off is ok when spawning to bulk.

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    #26896964 - 08/24/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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El Chupacabra said:Some say picking your nose and farting your ass off is ok when spawning to bulk.




No more gas exchange needed after spawning :rofl:


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: hobbyguy]
    #26896977 - 08/24/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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How much grain do you use Munchauzen?



3.5 quarts of prepped grains go into the bags. which is approx the same as 4 mason jars.

ya don't be squirting iso in your liner. they are made thru a industrial process that cooks plastic beads at 200°C into a sheet, so they are pretty sterile already. when you open a trash bag, pretty sure thats the first time actual air has touched the inside of it.


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26897009 - 08/24/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks Munchauzen!

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    #26897117 - 08/24/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks guys  :smile:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Psychedelicjunkie] * 2
    #26899544 - 08/25/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for the write up Munch



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    #26899555 - 08/25/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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thanks for the write up Munch





:ohyeah::munchdance::grannycheer:

pretty slick isn't it 😁

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen] * 1
    #26899560 - 08/25/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This is likely the best liner tek I’ve read to date. Not my preference but still a worthy writeup. Killing it munch :rockon:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26899572 - 08/25/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

thanks! I appreciate that, that means a lot coming from you!

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26900018 - 08/26/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I like the bag sub and spawn mix part. Very cool munch!

Im not into the cutting part Personally, but do love the mix method. Looks very quick.

New stuff to try next spawn session! :thumbup:


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: eatyualive]
    #26900134 - 08/26/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Munchhauzen

Thank you for sharing your liner tek.
Gonna try to cut my liners like you do for ny next spawning

I have a random question tho

Do you ever keep the bags semi closed and wrapped up top when you are fruiting? I am using mini monos/small tubs, and I noticed fruits liking it a lot when closed up the bag over them, when they grew too large/long for the deep but small sub. Seemed to prevent too much moisture leaving the sub too. Popped two small holes with a scissor, frees up the lid for other use, and no need for a dub tub.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26900236 - 08/26/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I like the bag sub and spawn mix part. Very cool munch!

Im not into the cutting part Personally, but do love the mix method. Looks very quick.

New stuff to try next spawn session! :thumbup:



how would you do it? not cut the bag at all? are you using unmodded monos?

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Do you ever keep the bags semi closed and wrapped up top when you are fruiting? I am using mini monos/small tubs, and I noticed fruits liking it a lot when closed up the bag over them, when they grew too large/long for the deep but small sub. Seemed to prevent too much moisture leaving the sub too. Popped two small holes with a scissor, frees up the lid for other use, and no need for a dub tub.




I've never mini monos or shoeboxes with liners. But I think bod's fruiting method for them involves placing a grocery bag overtop iirc.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Goatrider]
    #26900465 - 08/26/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I usually use the outside of the trash bag and just fold it to the side after ive spawned and top layered. Takes about 2 seconds. Then i flip the bag up over the sub and use it as a trashbag afterwards. But im always willing to try something new. Got it with pics and gifs in my spawn method. The corners kinda stay up and it makes for any easy handle grip when lifting sub out for harvest.I personally Never liked cutting liners, more work. But reduction in mixing subs is a plus!


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: eatyualive]
    #26900693 - 08/26/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)




Normal random liner ^





Bagged up, ideas





Problem with deep subs in small boxes, fruits hit the lid real quick
and size of sub can make em big.



it seems to help here, but im still not getting canopies, but the fruits obviously like it

gives you more surface area to mist too

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26900886 - 08/26/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like you’re restricting a lot of light with the liners all up in it like that... could be one reason you’re not getting canopies.. you should try trimming your liner and just using the lid for the tub or have you tried that already?

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: fahtster]
    #26901093 - 08/26/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

what? these subs are not getting enough light for canopies because of the bags?

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yeah im doing this in response to tubs drying out

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26901332 - 08/26/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I’m probably confused.. I’m just going off the pics.  Just saying that if the bags are blocking the light, it’s not helping.  Are you open air fruiting them?  Do you live a really dry climate?  I’m just confused why you have the surface partly covered. 

Subs definitely can and do fruit in poorly lit areas but if you’re talking canopies, I’ve found that exposing the entire fruiting surface to good lightning greatly improve your chances of that goal... but I don’t want to derail the thread.. if you want to talk about it more, plz pm me the response or a link to a thread where you already discuss it if there is one.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: fahtster]
    #26903731 - 08/28/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26906587 - 08/29/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Did this tonight. Anyway watched the video. There were a few factors involved in my situation that make this a little more difficult. However, the mix was quick and easy. I use larger footprint tubs so the bags i had wouldnt cover the entire bottom. Would have on the purple latch tubs but didnt have any empty. Also i have quart grain jars so its not as quick breaking them up as a bag of spawn is.

I do have something i think you will thank me for later munch. I fucking hate cutting liners, mp tape. This thing is a lifesaver. Its a little more than the regular rolls but totally worth the investment. I think you could even reuse the dispenser on another roll. If you have several tubs it will save you so much time and effort. It did take me a week or so to get the feel of cutting the perfect strip, but now its badass! My tub holes are 1.5 inch diameter. The mp tape is 2 inch wide.



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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: eatyualive]
    #26906702 - 08/29/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Eats I love those blue reusable dispensers :rockon:

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    #26906703 - 08/29/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Did this tonight. Anyway watched the video. There were a few factors involved in my situation that make this a little more difficult. However, the mix was quick and easy. I use larger footprint tubs so the bags i had wouldnt cover the entire bottom. Would have on the purple latch tubs but didnt have any empty. Also i have quart grain jars so its not as quick breaking them up as a bag of spawn is.

I do have something i think you will thank me for later munch. I fucking hate cutting liners, mp tape. This thing is a lifesaver. Its a little more than the regular rolls but totally worth the investment. I think you could even reuse the dispenser on another roll. If you have several tubs it will save you so much time and effort. It did take me a week or so to get the feel of cutting the perfect strip, but now its badass! My tub holes are 1.5 inch diameter. The mp tape is 2 inch wide.





done! slapped my roll in a dispenser I had for packaging tape that was nearly out. works great!


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26906706 - 08/29/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: eatyualive]
    #26906723 - 08/29/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Can I join the party???? :lol:

Just jumping in and posting so I can easily find it again when I need to reference it.

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Just jumping in and posting so I can easily find it again when I need to reference it.

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    #26915665 - 09/03/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

wanted to add this here for future reference...

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
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wanted to add this here for future reference...

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I thought I’d make a hot knife video for you seeing you’re such a bloody legend and can’t do it all.










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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26920382 - 09/06/20 02:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Great write up and video!
How large are your tubs? What is your avg harvest (first flush) in weight?

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26920399 - 09/06/20 02:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for video bro

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Capefearjay]
    #26921034 - 09/06/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Great video. Good timing. Need an easier tek than pre-cutting contractor bags in quarters and then filling after. This one looks way more efficient.


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: pitriot]
    #26921136 - 09/06/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Great write up and video!
How large are your tubs? What is your avg harvest (first flush) in weight?



66 quarts. 4 ounces.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26922239 - 09/06/20 11:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Great write up and video!
How large are your tubs? What is your avg harvest (first flush) in weight?



66 quarts. 4 ounces.




That would be 1100gr - 1200gr fresh. I am getting 750 - 850. I am wondering if it's all the genetics or might I be doing something else wrong.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: pitriot]
    #26922646 - 09/07/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

not all cultures are created equal :wink: if you're confident in your conditions, and don't have to mist your monos for a proper surface, then conditions might not be the problem. using a super domesticated variety of cube doesn't hurt either if weight is what you're after

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26923835 - 09/07/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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not all cultures are created equal :wink: if you're confident in your conditions, and don't have to mist your monos for a proper surface, then conditions might not be the problem. using a super domesticated variety of cube doesn't hurt either if weight is what you're after




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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: pitriot]
    #26923976 - 09/07/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome write up I am giving this a shot.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26924030 - 09/08/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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How large are your tubs? What is your avg harvest (first flush) in weight?



66 quarts. 4 ounces.




That makes me feel better lol, when I hear people claiming they get 8 oz on the first flush on a regular basis I get down on myself :lol:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26925011 - 09/08/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Eh take that shit with a grain of salt. People lie for shroomery clout all the time. Rule of thumb is 1 oz dry per quart of spawn, and most monos are 5 quarts. I use 4.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26927062 - 09/09/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hey bro can you tell me what you use for your substrate. Thanks for your videos

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Capefearjay]
    #26927070 - 09/09/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

just coir. 1 gallon of boiling water per coir brick.

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    #26927076 - 09/09/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Eh take that shit with a grain of salt. People lie for shroomery clout all the time. Rule of thumb is 1 oz dry per quart of spawn, and most monos are 5 quarts. I use 4.




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    #26927144 - 09/09/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I've done all my tubs this week using this method and holy shit I will never go back! Such a simple way to do it and I probably never would have thought of it so thank you!

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: pureshrooming]
    #26927750 - 09/10/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26935665 - 09/14/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

tamping down liners seem to make a big difference for me

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    #26935668 - 09/14/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

nice even surface makes for an even pinset!

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26935760 - 09/14/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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nice even surface makes for an even pinset!




Agreed. Remember when I fruited my bathtub all the flushes went in waves from the shallow end to the deep? I started to notice that thicker subs tended to pin slower than thinner regardless of spawn ratio. Never done anything super controlled but it’s something I’m definitely going to mess with some more. Level is best nonetheless.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26935795 - 09/14/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Agreed. We have been going with less sub (and higher ratio) and they definitely pin faster. The 3" sub 1:4 pinned and fruited about 5-7 days faster than the 4" 1:3. Makes sense.


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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26954377 - 09/25/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm now to all this do you have a video on making the substrate?

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    #26954489 - 09/25/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26954579 - 09/25/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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nice even surface makes for an even pinset!




Agreed. Remember when I fruited my bathtub all the flushes went in waves from the shallow end to the deep? I started to notice that thicker subs tended to pin slower than thinner regardless of spawn ratio. Never done anything super controlled but it’s something I’m definitely going to mess with some more. Level is best nonetheless.




I can't wait to see the write up :takingnotes:

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26956689 - 09/26/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No vermiculite?

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: pitriot]
    #26956768 - 09/26/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So are most people recommending using liners or not? well most recent opinions.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: GTEED]
    #26956778 - 09/26/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’d recommend them.. they make life easier And help reduce side pins IMO

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    #26961380 - 09/30/20 02:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

@Munchauzen, do you have a tek for those bigger tubs that you use with the 2x shoe box sized tubs inside of the bigger tubs? I saw on your last cultivation photo's that you have a few on the go and would be great to understand your methods. Looks like a easy maintenance method?


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    #26961522 - 09/30/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Coming soon😁

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    #26961541 - 09/30/20 07:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

EZ. Thanks man.

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    #26970320 - 10/05/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm about to try this method for the first time today, so excited to see how much easier it is than the "classic" way.


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    #26971139 - 10/05/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

the thing with the scissor when you cut it at the end, after mixing the sub

pure gold

And pure comedy gold, thinking about how many of us, have probably slowly cut around the liners or used a bunch of other retarded ineffective annoying methods

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    #26971161 - 10/05/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:rofl:

glad you enjoy the efficiency

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27169541 - 01/25/21 05:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Are you using heavier duty bags?

Do you remove the tape from all the holes when it starts pinning?

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: pitriot]
    #27170528 - 01/26/21 09:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yes they are lawn and leaf bags.

No the tape stays on the monotubs while they fruit.

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Re: Making Monotubs with Liners [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27816927 - 06/12/22 11:48 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Hi,
I saw you video on monotubs and the very impressive results. Do you just cover the holes in the tub using micropore tape right from the beginning or do you cover with something more or less airtight until colonisation?
Obviously it would be way more convenient to just stick the tape on until harvest.
Just used covered holes which I opened and stuffed with polyfill so far but would love to try something else

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