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Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose?
    #26874776 - 08/11/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

not sugar (50%glucose/50%fructose) not HFCS (55%fructose/45%Glucose), as fructose has a higher insulin index then glucose, I would like to limit my sweetened drinks (about 1-2 a day, about half the days a week, to no fructose drinks, I dont really like aspartame at all either, plus I saw one study referenced that said aspartame and stevia had a higher insulin index then even table sugar


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher] * 1
    #26875230 - 08/11/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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....I would like to limit my sweetened drinks (about 1-2 a day)






Didn't you just make a thread about stuffing your face/gut full fast food as quickly as possible?

You just made a thread where you said you ate something like 4 burgers, 4 fries, and 4 drinks as quickly as you could...You said you did this twice within the span of a week.

But now you're trying to limit the amount of sugar in your drinks?



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gopher said:...the first challenge I am going to try is the burger king family deal, with a coupon I have im going to get 2 whoppers, 2 jr whoppers, 4 fries and 4 drinks, for $19.99, its about 5k to 6k calories for the whole thing

I already did 2 test runs, one on tuesday, and one on thursday







Have you ever had a consistent healthy diet? The impression I get from your threads/posts is that you're constantly changing your diet and consuming strange things (borax, salt, urine, etc)...You post talking about fasting a lot but you just made a thread about trying to eat as much food as fast as you possibly can. And now you've made a thread about trying to limit the sugar in your drinks...?


You're a strange one.






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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875354 - 08/11/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A diabetic's urine


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #26875365 - 08/11/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

As far as I know there are no pure glucose sweetened drinks, maybe some obscure sports drink. Pure glucose is less sweet and more expensive than sugar and causes the hardest possible insulin spike.

The only pure glucose test I know of is is a Rx medical beverage to test your glucose tolerance to see whether you are diabetic.

For grossness reasons many doctors replace it with a tub of ice cream.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26875370 - 08/11/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:and causes the hardest possible insulin spike.





fructose creates more insulin then glucose IIRC, thats why HFCS is worse then sugar


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875385 - 08/11/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Actually, fructose over half an ounce a day is a metabolic poison, which is why sugar and HFCS are a problem.

Its why people are so fat and sickly.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26875407 - 08/11/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'll guess Mexican coke.  But I'm not sure.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Patlal]
    #26875412 - 08/11/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think mexican coke is made with cane sugar, its 5% better then normal coke


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875433 - 08/11/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I heard mexican coke was made with sugar, yes.

Dr Pepper did it right, discontinue the fully sugared version and go on with a half sugared, half sweetener version so there still is a caloric pick me up but most of the excess of the sugar is out. They're one of the very few brands who straight up acknowledged that full-sugared soda is unhealthy and did something about it.

Soft drinks are still moronic for mot switching their sweetener to Neotame or Advantame though.

Acesulfame is vile and no one likes aspartame, stop pushing it on us. Sweetener technology has advanced, move your product into the 21st century.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26875436 - 08/11/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

sweetners raise insulin too though, and in Canada Dr. Pepper is still HFCS, maybe they just did that on your side of the pond


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875439 - 08/11/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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sweetners raise insulin too though




Not all sweeteners do. Neotame and Advantame don't. With them there is literally a few milligrams of sweetener in a family sized bottle thats almost completely excreted by the faeces, not entering the body.

Advantame especially is a hoot, on average 20,000x as sweet as sugar and 100x sweeter than aspartame, so that 100 cans of advantame soda contain the amount of substance as 1 can of aspartame soda. At such homeopathic levels, substances lose all significant toxicity.

1mg advantame sweetens a can of beverage, 1000mg in a teaspoon only gives you the runs.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26875457 - 08/11/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26875461 - 08/11/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I just wrote Coca-cola a email copy and pasteing your comments in this thread

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Dear Coca-Cola


I am writing because I think you should switch your sweetener in 0 calorie drinks to Neotame or Advantame.



Advantame especially is a hoot, on average 20,000x as sweet as sugar and 100x sweeter than aspartame, so that 100 cans of advantame soda contain the amount of substance as 1 can of aspartame soda. At such homeopathic levels, substances lose all significant toxicity.




Acesulfame is vile and no one likes aspartame, stop pushing it on us. Sweetener technology has advanced, move your product into the 21st century.






I will paste the response I get in this thread

might be a few days though, Im going away tomorrow for at least a few days, and there will be no internet where im going


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875472 - 08/11/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I will tell you, they will NOT go for it because they are in bed with the companies that make the aspartame and the acesulfame. They have heavy contracts that go back decades, they buy the stuff continuously in tonnage quantities (precisely because their sweetening power is so low) and they get it at a special price because they buy a large segment of what the plant makes reliably.

Coca Cola's stance is that there is nothing wrong with either sweetener and that they dont feel to fix what isnt broken.

You'll see.

Thanks for the email though! One more nudge in the right direction.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875474 - 08/11/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875482 - 08/11/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26875674 - 08/11/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Drink water, not urine or coke.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26876373 - 08/12/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You're not my boss!



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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #26876703 - 08/12/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

"if you can drink the urine of cows why not your own?"


I hope everyone knows that cow milk is not urine, it's blood.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #26876996 - 08/12/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ewww.  :puke:

I think I just stick with water and black coffee.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Northerner]
    #26877303 - 08/12/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I bet its the Muslims inciting the Hindus to drink the urine of their sacred cows :lol:


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26884493 - 08/17/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Im disappointed in this thread, no one pointed out to me dextrose and corn syrup are pure glucose forms of sugar, I happened to read it in a book im reading, im going to look into if I can buy dextrose from somewhere, to use if I ever bake something, I drink my coffee black, but the rare time I drink tea I need a spoonful of sugar, so I can use the dextrose for that too


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26884498 - 08/17/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Only dextrose is pure glucose. Most Corn Syrup is spiked with fructose.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26884613 - 08/17/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I found dextrose on amazon, it was $13 for a kg, they had a cheaper one for brewing beer, but I went with the one a few more bucks because it was labeled as a alternative to sugar and not a brewing supply


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26884618 - 08/17/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dextrose for brewing is just as good.

Are you trying to build an Insulin Resistance?

I'lll give you a freebie: corn starch disassembles to nearly pure glucose when eaten.

If you want a sweetener, go with Neotame, a $5 baggie of 25gr is equal to a 55 gallon druum of sugar in terms of sweetness.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26884622 - 08/17/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Look for maltose


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26893661 - 08/22/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I tried the dextrose today, I made earl grey tea, I used 2 teaspoons dextrose and 3 tablespoons milk, its not as sweet as with sugar, but its still drinkable (I cant really drink black tea) The bag says there is 2.5 teaspoons in a serving, so I will probably use 2.5 teaspoons next time I make a tea


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26893667 - 08/22/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

and BAM! You are out of ketosis :wizard:


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: Asante]
    #26893684 - 08/22/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

nope between the eggs, milk and dextrose im only at about 16g carbs, I checked on the keto board yesterday and if I keep it under 20g it dosnt matter where those carbs come from

one thing I thought was interesting is I read you can get the dextrose into your bloodstream sublingually  it dosnt have to go through your digestion like sugar


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    #26894003 - 08/22/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

One thing you'll find is, the lower you can get your carb intake, the easier you'll find it to lose weight. A lot of people hit plateau on keto and don't know why, when they're actually going over the limit every day without realizing. 20g (or 35, depending on who you ask) is really more of an upper limit than a goal. The goal is 0.

It seems to matter day to day as well. For example, when I'm really strict about only meat, and I'm close to 0 carbs a day, I can fuck off and have pretty much anything I want without it being an issue, as long as it's an occasional thing, and it's only one meal.

I use truvia and half and half if I'm making iced coffee. Neither seems to be much of a problem. Sometimes I'll use sugar free whipped cream too. Some people use heavy whipping cream for creamer due to the higher fat and lower carbs, but that just seems like overkill to me.


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #26894044 - 08/22/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I dont plan to do keto long enough to hit a plateau, I have been plateaued on my current diet since July 17th, been putting on and off the same 5 pounds since July 17th, so I decided to do keto for a few weeks to see if I could break that month long plateau and as of today it seemed to work

I was fluctuating between 165-170, what was particularly frustrating about that low end was im 5'8, so at 164 I would be in a normal range BMI and not be overweight any more

as of today im 164, my bmi is 24.9 and im normal weight

Im going to go with the keto for a few more pounds, so when I carb load the water/glycogen weight dosnt throw me back over 164 and still eat low carb but not keto after, maybe 75g carbs per day

I do Alternate Day Fasting so I have only eaten 2 days of the last 4, but so far my calorie count is way lower on keto, I ate 1500 calories the first day and 1200 calories today, normally when I eat unlimited carbs I eat around 3000 calories every other day, lots of junk


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Re: Anyone know any drinks that are just sweetned with glucose? [Re: gopher]
    #26894070 - 08/22/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Gopher, you are constantly changing your plan. Find a good regimen and stick with it for a while and the results will be there.

Right now you're eating pure glucose in a ketogenic diet.

When I was a kid we went karting, and I was scared to let go into full velocity, so I was pressing the accellerator and the brake at the same time.

Not good for the kart.

The kart is your body.


Eating just eggs is mad for your body, but then you add glucose which is the last stuff you should eat.

Try splenda or stevia to sweeten things. Or xylitol.

Quote:

Is Xylitol Keto Friendly?

Answer: Xylitol is keto-friendly and doesn't count towards daily carb limits.




Xylitol tastes just like sugar, is as sweet as sugar but doesnt break your keto. $10/kilo, same price as glucose. Xylitol helps transport calcium and as such strengthens your bones, your teeth and fights cavities.


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