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Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo?
#26874103 - 08/10/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Every time I do lsd (mostly higher doses) I start to feel, especially in the comedown, like its gotta be tough on my heart. Im old..well kind of..turn 34 this month. And im pretty out of shape. I dont excercise at all or eat healthy. I smoke both weed and cigs constantly all day. I dont have any health conditions ir anything...it just wears me out pretty good and makes my body feel overworked when staying up for 36 hours from a strong lsd trip. I git some molly rock that I bought mostly with the intention of adding to my lsd trips. I used to get great presses back in the 90s but everything since then has been trash when it comes to pills. Doesnt even feel like MDMA. Im much more confident about this pure crystal rock. Anyways ive read that common doses are between 80 and 200mg. Im planning on using responsibly and only once every few months (though i will trip on psychs only more often that that) Is there any danger with adding this mdma disage to a 200-500 mic lsd dose when it comes to heart stuff, blood pressure, or seratonin syndrome or anything?
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Nobodycare]
#26874117 - 08/10/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cigarette machine bad for heart. Not the acid. MDMA is of amphetamine.
Sounds as your mind and body not too synchronized together.
I got some unknown powder the other day. Took little toot knowing it be like something. Breathe and light sweat at 72degrees making the bed. But couldn’t tell if Heart was higher than what should be for what’s the reference to? The double blind study of fella who hadn’t taken the dose?
MDMA is AWEsOMe with LSD. Far out fuzz down the well you go. Take the acid. When feel the acid eat the MDMA. The peak is so overwhelmingly far out fuzz down the... well... after peak take another booster dose of MDMA to ride the tail of the LSD trip.
But then again, as read of one MDMA user report, he loving the molecule, after trying mescaline, he pushed MDMA aside for Mescaline for the win!!!
Get some mescaline!
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Nobodycare]
#26874254 - 08/10/20 10:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You'll be fine, it's a safe combo.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: nooneman]
#26874633 - 08/11/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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like any amphetamine, MDMA puts pressure on your heart. i can feel it beat very fast on every come up. never had a problem with that but then i never got my heart checked. btw, cocaine is said to be even worse in this respect. definitely go slow with the MD if you are worried even the slightest bit. that would be my advice, but i'm generally a very cautious person.
you're 33 now and already ate pills in the 90s? 🤔
and yes, cigarettes are bad for your heart and the whole body in general. i quit tobacco many years ago. these days i just smoke weed in a wooden pipe with carbon filter...
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: epilectric]
#26874701 - 08/11/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looking back it was more like 2002-2006. Lol. Im sure ill be ok if its not like a common issue for normal people. Ill likely try 100 mg first prob vs the 200 my guy suggested for a heavy roll, especially since ill likely be mixing with the lsd. I can always take a little more if need be. I had quit smoking for a year and was doing the whole vape thing and it actually worked great for me. But then i just made a conscious decision to go back to smoking. That was about 1-2 years ago I think. Maybe ill try the vape again soon. My wife has been wanting to get up early to take walks everyday. Maybe i should take her up on that. Every bit helps I suppose. Thanks guys! Prob have a report on this combo within the next 2-6 weeks. Going to the beach for a week on the 23rd and will def trip there but not sure that ill bring the molly so that might be the next time. We shall see.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Nobodycare]
#26874734 - 08/11/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's sad to hear that you actually quit tobacco and started again. what kind of conscious decision was that? :P sounds like your wife has good ideas though...
as soon as i have the money, i will also take that final step from smoking pure weed to vaping..
yea, 100mg will be fine i'm sure. one can always redose later on.
by the way, ketamine also synergizes very nicely with both acid and m...
happy trolling/flipping
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: epilectric]
#26874750 - 08/11/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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epilectric said: it's sad to hear that you actually quit tobacco and started again. what kind of conscious decision was that? :P sounds like your wife has good ideas though...
as soon as i have the money, i will also take that final step from smoking pure weed to vaping..
yea, 100mg will be fine i'm sure. one can always redose later on.
by the way, ketamine also synergizes very nicely with both acid and m...
happy trolling/flipping 
My man has K but from what I read I shouldnt try it. I have self control issues, especially with drugs. Need to stick with safer stuff. Read lots about people doing it too much, bladder problems, etc. I didnt think it sounded like something i trusted myself with.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Nobodycare]
#26875462 - 08/11/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i understand your caution. i have to say though that for me personally and for many of the people i have talked to, K has a much safer profile than MD. i did small bumps of 20 mg up to lines of 60mg max. i experienced a K hole only once and that was when mixing it with alcohol, did a line of K when i was already very drunk on vodka. in fact, to reach a hole just by insufflation, one would usually have to snort 150-200 mg of the powder and that's not an easy thing to do because it tastes bitter and pharmaceutical.
over the last 3 years, i have probably consumed about 30 grams of it and i never had any bladder issues. i eventually did it for 9 days in a row in low doses, mainly out of boredom, but when it was gone, it was gone and i felt the need to take a couple of weeks break. no craving or anything. it also depends on the type though. S-isomer can be the most addictive and R- the least, with racemic in the middle.
for me it's important to be able to eat and sleep after taking a drug. neither is a problem with K at all, actually the opposite. out of all the synthetic drugs that are supposedly bad for you (not including LSD of course), K has been the least harmful for me. some of my friends have consumed more (1-2 grams a week) than i have, and while i have heard of some other people getting bladder issues after snorting a gram a day for 4 years, noone i know has experienced any so far.
by now, i'm not really interested in it anymore, it think it has shown me everything i wanted to see. i don't regret doing it, it felt right at that time and i had fun and interesting times, but in the end, it doesn't offer the mind expansion properties of traditional psychs...
so yeah, i would take a ketamine hangover (feeling a little spacey and dissociated but not necessarily in a bad way) over an amphetamine/mdma hangover any day.
but on the other hand, it's better to keep the range of drugs limited rather than doing more and more different substances. i don't do MDMA anymore because it fucks my body and psyche up in several ways that i can't afford anymore but everyone reacts differently and i'm already nervous by nature so i rather try to relax myself than to raise my energy levels even further.
enjoy your flip anyway! and quit smoking cigs please 
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Nobodycare said: My man has K but from what I read I shouldnt try it. I have self control issues, especially with drugs. Need to stick with safer stuff. Read lots about people doing it too much, bladder problems, etc. I didnt think it sounded like something i trusted myself with.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: epilectric]
#26877383 - 08/12/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Use 2/3 of your usual dose each, they amplify each other. Time it correct. Eating E is best done 4-5 hours after dropping acid. If you take it too early it can be overwhelming. Neurotoxicity and the general hung over feeling is increased from mixing both. My best and my worst trips were on that combo.
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BirdSeedUndaUrFeet said: Use 2/3 of your usual dose each, they amplify each other. Time it correct. Eating E is best done 4-5 hours after dropping acid. If you take it too early it can be overwhelming. Neurotoxicity and the general hung over feeling is increased from mixing both. My best and my worst trips were on that combo.
Well I dont have a usual dose of rock MDMA cuz Ive never had it before. Only pills that I have no idea what the strength was. From my reading a "normal" dose should be around 200 mg? So maybe go 100-150? Also thanks for the info on timing. I was thinking 2-3 hours later cuz the peak of lsd for me usually done by about the 3-4 hour mark. That may be a little early.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Nobodycare]
#26877572 - 08/12/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd also recommend Marquis test. Both MDMA and methylone form similar rock-like crystals, but MDMA will turn puprle with Marquis, whereas methylone will turn yellow. I thought I had MDMA once, but it was likely methylone based on Marquis. There's nothing to indicate that methylone is more toxic than MDMA, but still always good to test just to see what you're dealing with.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Nobodycare]
#26877934 - 08/13/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelics show you areas to work on....and that includes physical. If you’re feeling rough on the comedown, there’s a reason. Might be time to start exercising, eating healthy, cut out the cigs & cut back on the cannabis. Try listening to your body, adapting & then see how you feel down the line. I can tell you right now it’ll be better. I’m mid-thirties as well, and the reality is that we can’t do the same shit we used to it & get away with it. Older ya get, the more you’re signing checks for the dumb shit you did when you were younger. So this is an opportunity for change.
Re: the pills, pressies these days are way better than they were back in the day. And it’s not even close. You have to dig to find the good ones, but there’s plenty. Euro pressies that are mega-dosed with high quality MDMA....half a pill being a solid dose. Back in the day the pills had all kinds of things in them. Speed, combos of MDxx substances. The ones with MDMA, MDA & MDE were great. But I still prefer the ones today.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Dark_Star]
#26878584 - 08/13/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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dose wise, if i were you, i'd go for 100 first and see how that feels. 100 mg is usually a very nice clear headed buzz with therapeutic benefits. the come down is easier to handle at that dose level. this makes the experience easier to integrate into your sober mind... you can still add more later on. but most of the times i did that, the experience lost value
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Dark_Star said: Psychedelics show you areas to work on....and that includes physical. If you’re feeling rough on the comedown, there’s a reason. Might be time to start exercising, eating healthy, cut out the cigs & cut back on the cannabis. Try listening to your body, adapting & then see how you feel down the line. I can tell you right now it’ll be better. I’m mid-thirties as well, and the reality is that we can’t do the same shit we used to it & get away with it. Older ya get, the more you’re signing checks for the dumb shit you did when you were younger. So this is an opportunity for change.
that might explain my stomach issues on every comedown.. i thought it might be the batch of acid, but i don't know...
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Dark_Star said:Re: the pills, pressies these days are way better than they were back in the day. And it’s not even close. You have to dig to find the good ones, but there’s plenty. Euro pressies that are mega-dosed with high quality MDMA....half a pill being a solid dose. Back in the day the pills had all kinds of things in them. Speed, combos of MDxx substances. The ones with MDMA, MDA & MDE were great. But I still prefer the ones today.
it's true, just check the test results https://www.drugsdata.org/results.php
i hope it's okay to share this link
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: epilectric]
#26879629 - 08/14/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had one trip at a time where I was complaining of getting older cause of back pain. During that trip I spontaneously broke into yoga poses. Which felt great, and it hit me; I don’t stretch Started doing yoga for 5-10 minutes every morning, and the back pain went away.
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Dark_Star]
#26880035 - 08/14/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I had one trip at a time where I was complaining of getting older cause of back pain. During that trip I spontaneously broke into yoga poses. Which felt great, and it hit me; I don’t stretch Started doing yoga for 5-10 minutes every morning, and the back pain went away.
tripping always makes me do yoga stretches long forgotten ^^
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Re: Any dangers with LSD/MDMA combo? [Re: Dark_Star]
#26880176 - 08/14/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pills in the 80's were the best though.
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