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Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION?
#26869408 - 08/08/20 02:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So almost all of the BRF jars are at 100%, it is time for playing catchup on 3 out of 20 but they are almost finishing (85%?) Observing the jars and noticed one jar has two itty bitty pins forming and preferably want to make sure the proper procedure for going to bulk is made.
So my question is (after doing some reading still unclear on what would be best) should I pick the pins when I take the cakes out of the jars to grate? Or would it be fine to just grate the cakes pins and all? My only fear is that the pins could possibly rot and cause contains which obviously isn't ideal. Thanks for any advice
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26869412 - 08/08/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I`d pick them, depending on the size 
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: Goatrider]
#26869419 - 08/08/20 02:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's what I was thinking would probably be safest just in case. Since they are technically the first most aggressively growing would it be viable to pick them and out them to agar while they are small?
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26869422 - 08/08/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, you can. The smaller, the better.
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26869426 - 08/08/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If they just finished colonizing amd havnt consolidated for a lengthy amount of time pining in the jars typically means its battling a contam and pining for a last ditch effort. What that contam is who knows but you might not want to use those ones to bulk. Maybe mix those ones in a separate shoebox to fruit just incase it sends em all sour
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: Marmie]
#26869429 - 08/08/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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But it`s always a good idea to put something on agar, that pinned under (maybe) not best conditions.
Perhaps the pinning jar has consolidated, who knows?
Maybe you want to fruit that one invitro, not bad at all.
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: Goatrider]
#26870074 - 08/08/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well that jar in particular has been finished for a couple days (I should take better notes on all my jars but so many half pints >.<) I just noticed the pins last night so its been consolidating for at least.. 3 days I would guess.
I think I'll take the pins to agar and see what happens and spawn that one jar to a small monotub like you said just in case. It's going to slightly mess up my spawn to substrate ratio but I'd rather not spoil my bulk due to one lil jar. Strangely enough one of the tiny pins is coming from the mycellium growing up the glass jar wall and poking towards the cake. Never seen that although first timer haha.
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26870096 - 08/08/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think most syringe nocc’d BRF jars are contaminated to some extant based off all the syringes I’ve taken to agar - basically all have had bacteria in them - but BRF jars handle it well for whatever reason. But if you get a jar pinning soon after 100% that’s nothing to worry about unless you can see something wrong. The week of consolidation is just a general guideline but all cultures are different.
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26870098 - 08/08/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here is a few pictures for reference.
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26870103 - 08/08/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah didn't see your reply there Roger thanks for chiming in so based on what you see from the pictures is there anything blatantly wrong? I dont seem to think so but noob eyes are on. In your opinion do you think it would be okay to put that jar in with the rest for bulk? Taking pins off regardless.
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26870128 - 08/08/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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They look okay from what I can see there but I always hate trying to judge something I can’t see in real life lol. Pictures very rarely capture the little complexities. Sometimes it’s just the smallest spot that looks “off” or different that will make me put a jar into the questionable category.
I also don’t like taking cakes to bulk for the same reasoning in my post above, spore syringes have bacteria so often. The cakes handle it well but when you break them up and mix then with something new they have to recolonize and are weakened during that time.
Doom and gloom aside the cake to bulk has worked for many. I’d use that jar probably if I was doing it.
How many half pints do you have? I do shoe boxes at 1:1.5 so that’d be 4 half pints to 6 half pints of bulk. I wouldn’t go any lower than 1:2 spawn ratio because I’d want them to colonize ASAP.
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26870284 - 08/08/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I've been trying to spot tiny discrepancies in my jars, studying them each night before bed to just make sure. They only two things I've noticed out of normal is the pins in that one jar and 1 small light yellow spot on another which I believe is just metabolites.
I plan to get to grains but BRF seemed like a logical first step since noob lol. I didn't want to go the SGFC route as it seems less efficient so trying bulk to start is plan with two 66 at monos and 10 half pints per tub. So 10 pints total and 5 in each going with a 1:2 ratio is what I intended. I figured that ratio would be about right.
I think I'll take the jar a few more days see if anything icky comes up and if not I'll toss in bulk, if I see anything out of wack it's going seperate.
Obviously more is better spawn wise so I did make 3 extra jars I was gonna put into a shoebox but I could just divvy them up into the two tubes, was just thinking of having an extra just in case the tubes went south for some reason. (Hopefully not though o.o)
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Re: Pinning in BRF jars at 100% colonization, planning to spawn to bulk. QUESTION? [Re: lookintolearn]
#26873258 - 08/10/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So BUMP, (Another question in retrospect to the pinning jar)
The larger pin in the jar has grown pretty big now, about 1" to 1-1/2" and I'd like to take the pin to agar before it gets to big. I'm trying to wait out the other jars so I can bulk them.
Would it be okay to open the jar in the SAB and take the pins or would that probably compromise the jar? I just don't want to mess up my spawn ratio for my monotub.
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