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Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination?
    #26872466 - 08/09/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a new grower, totally new to everything. I purchased the basic grower kit and then purchased spores from a different place. I was pretty sanitary but probably not 100% perfect when getting set up. NOW: It's been 3 weeks, which is longer than I expected that it would take. 2 jars look good. 2-3 jars-do they have contamination? 1 jar- throw it away? Basically, what would you do in my situation? I have good photos and I can supply more data/photos if that would help. Temp has been 75-85 Fahrenheit and humidity has been 60%+ I'll add the photos...




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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26872479 - 08/09/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

#1, #2, #4 look pretty good. And #3 also coming along pretty well. But on #3-- what's the green stuff on the back? One other jar also has the green stuff. I would have to check but I think that it is #4 and/or #5.


Then #6, this jar had NOTHING for at most of the whole time; I thought it was dead, then it got something, but now it has a yellow circle?

Do I have to throw away jars with that blue stuff?


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26872484 - 08/09/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

you can try top fruiting the funky jars. just mist the dry verm layer and cover with a ziplock with some holes.

works great for getting fruits from shitty jars


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26872488 - 08/09/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

3 4 5 6 are all contamed. 1 & 2 are likely okay.


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26872489 - 08/09/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

3, 4, 5, and 6 are buggered with mold/bacteria.  The yellow stuff in 6 is metabolites, which you'll see a lot of when the myc is fighting contaminants.


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: skullhuman]
    #26872502 - 08/09/20 10:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

THANK YOU! everyone who replied so quickly.

SO:
A) keep going with 1 & 2

B) Jars 3,4,5,6 - abandon hope and throw them in the garbage, or perhaps "try top fruiting the funky jars. just mist the dry verm layer and cover with a ziplock with some holes"

ALSO:
What did I do wrong? Not antiseptic enough when I injected the jars?

Jars 3,4 I didn't see green/blue stuff for the first couple weeks; they seemed fine for a while


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26872507 - 08/09/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The tin foil is confusing me a bit. What kind of setup do you have going on? That may be why it took longer than expected.

It's a constant race between myc and everything else living in those jars. Sometimes the myc doesn't win.

Hopefully it's interested you enough to make your own grower kit next time, and if you're lucky you'll get a fruit you can get a print off of or clone.


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: AlsetAlokin]
    #26873182 - 08/10/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The aluminum foil came on top of the jars and it was recommended to leave the foil on. I purchased a basic grow kit from a well-known vendor online and it contained the 6 jars. I lifted up the foil just for the photos.

I am getting interested to try the Uncle Bens tek.

If I don't try top fruiting those contaminated jars (I'll research that), do they just go in the garbage?


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26873208 - 08/10/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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zxrty said:
I purchased a basic grow kit from a well-known vendor online




Therein lies the problem.  Online growkits are notorious for failure.  Best to take your destiny in to your own hands and produce your own stuff from scratch.  If the lids are prepped right you don't need tinfoil over them.  Try a proper lid tek like this:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14722818#14722818

Dump the jars in the garbage outside if you opt not to top fruit them.  Don't empty the contents inside your house.


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: skullhuman]
    #26874822 - 08/11/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Sound advice to do my own, thank you.

I wonder if I could find a place in the woods to dump the bad ones, on the slight chance that nature would "find a way" LOL.


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26874836 - 08/11/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

id throw the whole jars in the trash u dont wanna open them and have them spores get all over u and go bringing them into your grow /work area. did u use a still air box when u knocked up the jars? what was your sterile procedure?


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26874871 - 08/11/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think I need to put more effort in sterilization next time. I did most of the recommended things, but I wasn't 100% perfect.

No still air box. I do have a little nook and I wiped it all down with 70% alcohol, and hung some plastic around it while I worked, to keep any airflow out. I should get some lysol spray.

Showered and put on clean clothes before. Used the plastic gloves from the kit.

I used a lighter on the end of the needle after each one. I didn't heat the end of the syringe until it was red-hot, which I just read recommended somewhere else.

My other question is whether I actually did that part well enough, but the jars got contaminated AFTER, in the 2-3 weeks since? Does that happen?


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26874879 - 08/11/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

no sab and premade shit is a total recipe for failure im shocked even 1 jar is alright so far


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. Contamination? [Re: zxrty]
    #26874891 - 08/11/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

LMAO I appreciate your honesty!


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Re: Advice for new grower needed? 3 weeks, photos. ((Updated Pics)) [Re: zxrty]
    #26888750 - 08/19/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Updated pics - Almost 6 weeks - Advice for a first-timer?

  • 1, 2, and 4, I think look good
  • 3, 5: Contam bottom back
  • 6: super contaminated


1,2,4 - I am about to birth them and put them into ziploc bags with spring water and leave them 18-23 hours. Do I put them in the refrigerator? It's 75-85 degrees, so I think I will.

3, 5 - I am thinking of top fruiting... Leave them in the jars, replace a little vermiculite, spray water, put baggie over it, leave it in a window?

6 - I will probably also top fruit, same, just to see what happens.

What would you do? Thanks!



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