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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
    #26882227 - 08/15/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.org/press-releases/2020/05/27/hackensack-meridian-health-observational-study-demonstrates-lack-of-efficacy-of-hydroxychloroquine-among-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-but-finds-first-treatment-tocilizumab-to-improve-survival/

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Among 2,512 hospitalized patients with COVID-19, 76 percent received at least one dose of hydroxychloroquine and 59 percent received hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin.




I don’t understand how you can be such a HCQ fanboy and not know it was practically thrown at patients for the first couple months.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
    #26882230 - 08/15/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I won't go through the list of vaccine additives, not adjuvants as they are inactive

As far as adjuvants go.




Why not go through that list? It's extensive.

Let's start with aluminum.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737175.2014.915745






That article mentions Al as an adjuvant sure, but makes no mention of amounts.  Did you know most anti-antiperspirants are composed of Aluminum compounds, and the exposure of single use of said product is greater than all the injections required for vaccinations.  Also Aluminum is the most abundant element in the earths crust, so stop breathing cause that dust'll get you, well unless you like an N95 mask then maybe you're safe.

As for the charts, correlation is not causality.  A mistake you make so often I've never mentioned it cause it made me :stevolmao:


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
    #26882274 - 08/15/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I just saw a report how Qanon propaganda is being pushed through alternative health related posts and groups on Facebook. Looks like they succeeded with HamHead.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
    #26882278 - 08/15/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.org/press-releases/2020/05/27/hackensack-meridian-health-observational-study-demonstrates-lack-of-efficacy-of-hydroxychloroquine-among-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-but-finds-first-treatment-tocilizumab-to-improve-survival/

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Among 2,512 hospitalized patients with COVID-19, 76 percent received at least one dose of hydroxychloroquine and 59 percent received hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin.




I don’t understand how you can be such a HCQ fanboy and not know it was practically thrown at patients for the first couple months.




Keep dancing koods.

From your article.

"hydroxychloroquine, does not improve survival for hospitalized patients. However, another drug, tocilizumab, appears to improve survival among critically ill intensive care unit (ICU) patients.

A fine example of paitents being treated too late. Thanks.



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I won't go through the list of vaccine additives, not adjuvants as they are inactive

As far as adjuvants go.




Why not go through that list? It's extensive.

Let's start with aluminum.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737175.2014.915745






That article mentions Al as an adjuvant sure, but makes no mention of amounts.  Did you know most anti-antiperspirants are composed of Aluminum compounds, and the exposure of single use of said product is greater than all the injections required for vaccinations.  Also Aluminum is the most abundant element in the earths crust, so stop breathing cause that dust'll get you, well unless you like an N95 mask then maybe you're safe.

As for the charts, correlation is not causality.  A mistake you make so often I've never mentioned it cause it made me :stevolmao:






And they make deodorant without aluminum.

I wonder why?

Perhaps for those of us who don't like neurotoxins.

And to argue aluminum being injected vs deodorant exposure is ignoring important science.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ice9]
    #26882282 - 08/15/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I won't go through the list of vaccine additives, not adjuvants as they are inactive

As far as adjuvants go.




Why not go through that list? It's extensive.

Let's start with aluminum.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737175.2014.915745






That article mentions Al as an adjuvant sure, but makes no mention of amounts.  Did you know most anti-antiperspirants are composed of Aluminum compounds, and the exposure of single use of said product is greater than all the injections required for vaccinations.  Also Aluminum is the most abundant element in the earths crust, so stop breathing cause that dust'll get you, well unless you like an N95 mask then maybe you're safe.

As for the charts, correlation is not causality.  A mistake you make so often I've never mentioned it cause it made me :stevolmao:




Nah it’s special aluminum that can get into babies brains and make their soft heads explode.

I’m starting to get nervous about the level of influence the hopelessly ignorant masses are having on our public discourse. Stupid people are leading to stupid decisions.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882284 - 08/15/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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"hydroxychloroquine, does not improve survival for hospitalized patients. However, another drug, tocilizumab, appears to improve survival among critically ill intensive care unit (ICU) patients.

A fine example of paitents being treated too late. Thanks.





I didn’t real the entire report. Where does it say when the patients received HCQ?


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882297 - 08/15/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The amount of aluminum you get from a vaccine is less than 1mg.

A normal person ingests and breathes in between 10mg and 1000mg a day


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882299 - 08/15/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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"hydroxychloroquine, does not improve survival for hospitalized patients. However, another drug, tocilizumab, appears to improve survival among critically ill intensive care unit (ICU) patients.

A fine example of paitents being treated too late. Thanks.





I didn’t real the entire report. Where does it say when the patients received HCQ?




Our study adds to the emerging data finding no benefit for hydroxychloroquine among hospitalized patients, but now we will turn our database’s attention to exploring if the medication is beneficial earlier in the pre-hospital course,’’ said Andre Goy, M.D., M.S., physician in chief Hackensack Meridian Health Oncology and chairman & chief physician officer, John Theurer Cancer Center. 

Right there, see, "hospitalized paitents", meaning, they are in a hospital.

Last time. HCQ is effective in early treatments, at first signs of symptoms, and even better as a preventive prophylaxis, to outright prevent infection.
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The amount of aluminum you get from a vaccine is less than 1mg.

A normal person ingests and breathes in between 10mg and 1000mg a day




Keep ignoring a fact that it is being injected.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882300 - 08/15/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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And to argue aluminum being injected vs deodorant exposure is ignoring important science.



Intramuscular injection of slowly soluble salts isn’t going to be much different than absorbing through the intestinal tract.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882302 - 08/15/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The brain is extremely sensitive to aluminum. Concentrations of aluminum as low as 10-100 nano-molar can cause inflammation of brain tissue. 10 nano-molar is 270 nano-grams aluminum per liter. (nano = 1 billionth). Thats an amazingly low concentration.

10 nano-molar Al causes inflammation in human blood vessel cells (Alexandrov et al): Nanomolar aluminum induces expression of the inflammatory systemic biomarker C-reactive protein

100 nano-molar Al causes inflammation in human neurons (Lukiw et al):Nanomolar aluminum induces pro-inflammatory and pro-apoptotic gene expression in human brain cells in primary culture

A typical 1-year old infant has a brain weight of about 1000 grams. A 10 nano-molar concentration in 1000 grams contains 270 nano-grams (0.27 micrograms) of aluminum; a 100 nanomolar concentration in 1000 grams contains 2700 nano-grams (2.7 micrograms). This is extraordinary, because a single vaccine can contain 250 micrograms (250,000 nano-grams), and an infant can receive about 3,675 micrograms in the first 6 months. In other words, less than 0.01% of the aluminum in the first 6 months of vaccines can create a 10-nanomolar concentration in the brain, and 0.1% can create a 100-nanomolar concentration in the brain  (since 3,675 x 0.01% = 0.3675 micrograms, and 3,675 x 0.1% = 3.675 micrograms)). A single vaccine contains more than enough aluminum to inflame the brain.

Of course, this assumes uniform distribution of the aluminum in the brain, which is not the reality. Al concentration in the brain is highly nonuniform. However, the above calculation establishes plausibility. The amount of aluminum in vaccines greatly exceeds the amount necessary to cause brain inflammation.

Fuck me. FORBES!!!


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882306 - 08/15/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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And to argue aluminum being injected vs deodorant exposure is ignoring important science.



Intramuscular injection of slowly soluble salts isn’t going to be much different than absorbing through the intestinal tract.




:ohwow:

Why can't I eat DMT then?

But I can inject it for different results, right?


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882307 - 08/15/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Keep ignoring a fact that it is being injected.



If it’s IV, then the aluminum ions will be efficiently removed by the kidneys. If it’s IM then the aluminum ions will slowly be absorbed into the bloodstream, where they will be efficiently removed by the kidneys


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882308 - 08/15/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Keep ignoring a fact that it is being injected.



If it’s IV, then the aluminum ions will be efficiently removed by the kidneys. If it’s IM then the aluminum ions will slowly be absorbed into the bloodstream, where they will be efficiently removed by the kidneys




Immediately?


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26882311 - 08/15/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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And to argue aluminum being injected vs deodorant exposure is ignoring important science.



Intramuscular injection of slowly soluble salts isn’t going to be much different than absorbing through the intestinal tract.




:ohwow:

Why can't I eat DMT then?

But I can inject it for different results, right?



Because your gut is lined with cells that produce monoamine oxidase, an enzyme that metabolizes amines like DMT. Aluminum is not an amine. It’s not even close.

Just stop. You’re in way over your head.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882320 - 08/15/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Just stop. You’re in way over your head.




Speak for yourself, you don't read articles I post so how would you know?

All you do is constantly disagree, like you know everything there is to know about anything and all other opinions are wrong.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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    #26882334 - 08/15/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Unless your kidneys don’t work, your body is perfectly capable of removing normal amounts of aluminum. Even if the vaccine was injected directly into the bloodstream, the amount of aluminum In the blood is still less than you would get from eating one antacid tablet.

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Just stop. You’re in way over your head.




Speak for yourself, you don't read articles I post so how would you know?

All you do is constantly disagree, like you know everything there is to know about anything and all other opinions are wrong.




You’re always wrong. Like constantly wrong. You’re the perfect Dunning Kruger archetype.


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
    #26882341 - 08/15/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ingested Aluminum Kinetics
Ingested aluminum enters the blood from the gut. Al is absorbed in a water-soluble ionic form, typically Al3+ or an aluminum complex*. This aluminum comprises individual Al atoms, like ordinary salt dissolved in water. Ionic aluminum is toxic, but at normal, natural levels of exposure it does not cause harm, for a few reasons:
1) absorption is low. Only about 0.3% enters the blood,
2) the blood-brain barrier (BBB) almost completely blocks Al3+ entry into the brain,
3) Al3+ is rapidly removed from the blood by the kidneys.

These defenses protect the body and brain from natural levels of aluminum ingestion.


Above: Ingested aluminum has low absorption (0.3%), is rapidly eliminated in the urine, and is (mostly) excluded from the brain by the blood brain barrier (BBB). These natural defenses are adequate to protect the brain from normal, natural levels of Al ingestion.

Based on this understanding of ingested aluminum transport, it was long assumed that AANs (aluminum adjuvant nanoparticles) are eliminated in the same way as ingested aluminum. AANs cannot be filtered by the kidneys (they are too large). But it was assumed that the AANs dissolve rapidly in body fluids, and the resulting Al3+ is eliminated in urine, just like ingested aluminum. However, this simple model is wrong.

Below is a diagram illustrating this wrong understanding of what happens to aluminum adjuvants in the body.


Above: Vaccine promoters assume that Al adjuvant is safely eliminated by dissolution and urinary excretion. Thats why vaccine promoters believe only the blood concentration of Al3+ is important. We now know this is wrong. The Al adjuvant dissolves very slowly and so can remain in the body for many months or years. Also, its not just the dissolved Al3+ thats toxic; the Al adjuvant particles are also toxic.

Once inside the brain, the aluminum causes inflammation which attracts more MFs, some of which are loaded with still more aluminum. The result is a vicious cycle of inflammation and aluminum accumulation in the brain.
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Unless your kidneys don’t work, your body is perfectly capable of removing normal amounts of aluminum. Even if the vaccine was injected directly into the bloodstream, the amount of aluminum In the blood is still less than you would get from eating one antacid tablet.

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Just stop. You’re in way over your head.




Speak for yourself, you don't read articles I post so how would you know?

All you do is constantly disagree, like you know everything there is to know about anything and all other opinions are wrong.




You’re always wrong. Like constantly wrong. You’re the perfect Dunning Kruger archetype.




See, all can do say I'm wrong.

When I can specifically show otherwise. See those pictures?

Makes sense how ingestion is different than injection?

If a vaccine is given orally, fine. A digestive system will break it down differently and respond different than an injection.

Can you believe it, I said an oral vaccine is fine?

Are all these people doing this research and finding these neurotoxins, wrong, koods?


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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: HamHead]
    #26882346 - 08/15/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

How are aluminum particles getting into the brain 🤦‍♂️


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    #26882351 - 08/15/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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How are aluminum particles getting into the brain 🤦‍♂️



:badtrip:

Blood brain barrier.  Heard of it?


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    #26882362 - 08/15/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ok. I’ll go slow. How. Do. Aluminum. Particles. Cross. The. BBB.


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