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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: paradoxlost]
#27472410 - 09/17/21 11:44 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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paradoxlost said: So that is for Pennsylvania as of last week of August 2021, clearly not for only August 2021. That would be ridiculous. But also, as you can see, clearly, the last wave has done nothing to shift statistics. The overwhelming amount of deaths is in the elderly range.
Your link has no breakdown for you to make that determination
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472415 - 09/17/21 11:46 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Except the graph based on age categories
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472416 - 09/17/21 11:47 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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IF covid gets cured Koods what on earth will you do with all that free time?
With out COvid threads your post count might be like 50k
You could like, write a book or something! Start a business... Go walking in nature. I don't know.
I mean, I'm not knocking you here. Just genuinely curious what the next big thing will be to post about.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Fiery]
#27472420 - 09/17/21 11:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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COVID will never be cured for koods and it will have nothing to do with the virus evolving the the presence of a vaccine to generally have viral particles that are effected by the vaccine.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: paradoxlost]
#27472424 - 09/17/21 11:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku/data
so here is the data set the CDC is giving to the public.

since august 1st in the US the average age of death that is leading is 50-64, then 65-74
koods, stop lying
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
#27472425 - 09/17/21 11:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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budmanman said: wrong


What a difference. Look at the 50-65 age group compared to last year.
Any explanation why 50-65 is the deadliest group? Why do the number of deaths go down as you get older? That’s a completely different situation from last year
It’s the vaccine. Stop being stupid.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472428 - 09/17/21 11:59 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said:
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budmanman said: wrong


What a difference. Look at the 50-65 age group compared to last year.
Any explanation why 50-65 is the deadliest group? Why do the number of deaths go down as you get older? That’s a completely different situation from last year
It’s the vaccine. Stop being stupid.
i wouldn't consider 50-65 as young. thats fucking hilarious.
Also, they are barely higher then 65+ age groups. why. their rates are going up, in spite of vaccinations.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472432 - 09/18/21 12:01 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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1/4 of all deaths in the 40-49 age group due to covid yet less than 10% of deaths in 85 are due to covid?
It’s the vaccine dummy
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: paradoxlost]
#27472435 - 09/18/21 12:03 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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paradoxlost said:
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koods said:
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budmanman said: wrong


What a difference. Look at the 50-65 age group compared to last year.
Any explanation why 50-65 is the deadliest group? Why do the number of deaths go down as you get older? That’s a completely different situation from last year
It’s the vaccine. Stop being stupid.
i wouldn't consider 50-65 as young. thats fucking hilarious.
Also, they are barely higher then 65+ age groups. why. their rates are going up, in spite of vaccinations.
It’s impressive that you are worse than budbudman at analyzing data
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472438 - 09/18/21 12:04 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said:
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paradoxlost said:
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koods said:
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budmanman said: wrong


What a difference. Look at the 50-65 age group compared to last year.
Any explanation why 50-65 is the deadliest group? Why do the number of deaths go down as you get older? That’s a completely different situation from last year
It’s the vaccine. Stop being stupid.
i wouldn't consider 50-65 as young. thats fucking hilarious.
Also, they are barely higher then 65+ age groups. why. their rates are going up, in spite of vaccinations.
It’s impressive that you are worse than budbudman at analyzing data
i'm surprised you don't know what the word young means. or rate.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472443 - 09/18/21 12:07 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Last year mortality increased with each successive age group. Now mortality peaks in the 50-64 age group and then starts decreasing.
The data is plain as day.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: paradoxlost]
#27472444 - 09/18/21 12:08 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I never said 50-64 was young. You’re making shit up
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472449 - 09/18/21 12:16 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Last year 3% of all deaths in the 18-29 age group was due to covid
August 2022 it’s 11%
Covid is now the third leading cause of death in that age group after accidents and suicide.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472637 - 09/18/21 07:00 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please stop saying that the old and the sick are likely to die... It's not fair. I hate unfair. I won't have it.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: anatomality]
#27472638 - 09/18/21 07:06 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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The data is clear, the vaccine isn't working very well on 50-65 year olds.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
#27472641 - 09/18/21 07:11 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the acquired immunity fades as well a couple months after, makes sense that the first to get vaccinated would be the first to re-become vulnerable.
Compounded with a large segment of the population presenting various co-morbidities...
Here's something interesting for you folks to talk about.
Unvaccinated healthcare workers kicked out of work
Yeah... Shortage of workers? Overflowing hospitals? No problem fam, let us just get rid a bunch of workers.
The net result is they are all migrating to our private sector, and Canada's beleaguered public health care loses again. The divide between the 'have' and 'have nots' grows...
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: anatomality]
#27472650 - 09/18/21 07:15 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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anatomality said: I think the acquired immunity fades as well a couple months after, makes sense that the first to get vaccinated would be the first to re-become vulnerable.
Compounded with a large segment of the population presenting various co-morbidities...
Here's something interesting for you folks to talk about.
Unvaccinated healthcare workers kicked out of work
Yeah... Shortage of workers? Overflowing hospitals? No problem fam, let us just get rid a bunch of workers.
The net result is they are all migrating to our private sector, and Canada's beleaguered public health care loses again. The divide between the 'have' and 'have nots' grows...
https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS2666379121002032%3Fshowall%3Dtrue
not true, aquired immunity is actually stronger then vaccine after 23 days and models indicate it could last 2 years, this study confirms it last at least 8 months.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: paradoxlost]
#27472653 - 09/18/21 07:18 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could be wrong, I haven't been paying close attention.
Booster is for variants then? Not dwindling immunity?
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: koods]
#27472665 - 09/18/21 07:25 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Last year 3% of all deaths in the 18-29 age group was due to covid
August 2022 it’s 11%
Covid is now the third leading cause of death in that age group after accidents and suicide.
You said COVID is now a disease of the young, which it clearly isnt. 50-64 are statisticlly insignificantly more likely to die then over 65. It's interesting, you say the death percentage is higher in young people. The data I am looking at (which is the CDC data set posted above, use it, stop using newspapers to post data. we want intelligence, not data) doesn't indicate that, and when I break out death counts by month, for all age groups they're decreasing as time goes on, more or less. 2020 was give and take for hte beginning.
So like, if total deaths are less then they were last year (which could be because of vaccinating old people, less old people to die, take your pick) you could actually have less deaths in a certain category, but since the total has gone down, that percentage has gone up. Go take your lying ass somewhere else.
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koods said: Last year mortality increased with each successive age group. Now mortality peaks in the 50-64 age group and then starts decreasing.
The data is plain as day.
You should work in advertising, you really should.
Call it:
Shill Advertising: What Do YOU Want The Numbers To Say
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: anatomality]
#27472666 - 09/18/21 07:26 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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anatomality said: I could be wrong, I haven't been paying close attention.
Booster is for variants then? Not dwindling immunity?
the booster is for people who's immune system sucks so they're subject to breakout variants, also for people who are around at risk people. Kinda they way the vaccine should have been rolled out.
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