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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: anatomality]
#27470319 - 09/16/21 08:24 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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anatomality said: TL;dr the vaccine WONT be enough, ever.
Beware those champions of the weak. They think nothing of sacrificing the strong.
They don't love the sick weak and poor, as much as they hate the strong.
Is this offensive?
apparently it is.
I have a theory as to why the vaccine won't be enough. All mass vaccine rollouts have taken over a year and longer then planned, but covid is here to stay. Why?
May it perhaps have to be due to evolutionary forces?
-------------------- [quote]koods said: Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote] [quote]koods said: Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: anatomality] 1
#27470409 - 09/16/21 09:50 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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anatomality said: TL;dr the vaccine WONT be enough, ever.
Beware those champions of the weak. They think nothing of sacrificing the strong.
They don't love the sick weak and poor, as much as they hate the strong.
Is this offensive?
I don't know if it's offensive or not, but everyone likes to think of themselves as the strong. Take a zombie movie/show, for instance. Everyone thinks they are one of the heroic zombie-killers, the protagonist, mowing down a horde of zombies.
No one ever thinks about how when there's one dude killing hundreds of zombies...that's odds of hundreds to one that you would actually be one of the zombies, not the hero.
You advocate for the strong, but if you aren't a billionaire or a household name, what you don't realize is that YOU are the weak, the faceless, the interchangable. YOU are a forgettable zombie, packed into the middle of horde. Your cry you think is so fearful and scary mixes with hundreds of others and ends up being a low moan. That's who you are, that's who I am. That's who your loved ones are, your family and friends. All faceless, generic zombies in the middle of a horde.
Don't advocate for the strong. They don't need it. They will never even know you exist.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ima Trooper]
#27470459 - 09/16/21 10:20 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ima Trooper said:
I don't know if it's offensive or not, but everyone likes to think of themselves as the strong.

This.
No one ever seems to think that they might be in the "minority" which some not-so-likely bad thing happens to. Until that bad thing happens to them.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ima Trooper] 1
#27470511 - 09/16/21 10:58 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ima Trooper said:
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anatomality said: TL;dr the vaccine WONT be enough, ever.
Beware those champions of the weak. They think nothing of sacrificing the strong.
They don't love the sick weak and poor, as much as they hate the strong.
Is this offensive?
I don't know if it's offensive or not, but everyone likes to think of themselves as the strong. Take a zombie movie/show, for instance. Everyone thinks they are one of the heroic zombie-killers, the protagonist, mowing down a horde of zombies.
No one ever thinks about how when there's one dude killing hundreds of zombies...that's odds of hundreds to one that you would actually be one of the zombies, not the hero.
You advocate for the strong, but if you aren't a billionaire or a household name, what you don't realize is that YOU are the weak, the faceless, the interchangable. YOU are a forgettable zombie, packed into the middle of horde. Your cry you think is so fearful and scary mixes with hundreds of others and ends up being a low moan. That's who you are, that's who I am. That's who your loved ones are, your family and friends. All faceless, generic zombies in the middle of a horde.
Don't advocate for the strong. They don't need it. They will never even know you exist.
There are different types of strength than money and influence.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: twighead]
#27470518 - 09/16/21 11:06 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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twighead said:
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Ima Trooper said:
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anatomality said: TL;dr the vaccine WONT be enough, ever.
Beware those champions of the weak. They think nothing of sacrificing the strong.
They don't love the sick weak and poor, as much as they hate the strong.
Is this offensive?
I don't know if it's offensive or not, but everyone likes to think of themselves as the strong. Take a zombie movie/show, for instance. Everyone thinks they are one of the heroic zombie-killers, the protagonist, mowing down a horde of zombies.
No one ever thinks about how when there's one dude killing hundreds of zombies...that's odds of hundreds to one that you would actually be one of the zombies, not the hero.
You advocate for the strong, but if you aren't a billionaire or a household name, what you don't realize is that YOU are the weak, the faceless, the interchangable. YOU are a forgettable zombie, packed into the middle of horde. Your cry you think is so fearful and scary mixes with hundreds of others and ends up being a low moan. That's who you are, that's who I am. That's who your loved ones are, your family and friends. All faceless, generic zombies in the middle of a horde.
Don't advocate for the strong. They don't need it. They will never even know you exist.
There are different types of strength than money and influence.
Not according to the strong. Delude yourself if you want, (I'm sure you have oodles of "inner strength", "moral fiber" etc. So do I.) but the fact remains that we do not affect our world to any significant degree, at all.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ima Trooper]
#27470662 - 09/16/21 01:41 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nicki Minaj did another Instagram interview.
Also, she is clearly restricted from posting on Twitter - she hasn't tweeted a single thing since 21 hours ago. I am 100% confident that she would not lie about this, with as many followers as she has, it would be in her interest to address them. This means Twitter is lying about not having taken any action against her account. Absolute scumbaggery, but given how bad Twitter is these days it's not surprising.
Here's the interview:
I know most of you guys don't care but I think someone who is being censored by a bunch of lying scumbags deserves to have their voice heard regardless of the circumstances, regardless of who they are.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Ima Trooper]
#27470724 - 09/16/21 02:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ima Trooper said:
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twighead said:
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Ima Trooper said:
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anatomality said: TL;dr the vaccine WONT be enough, ever.
Beware those champions of the weak. They think nothing of sacrificing the strong.
They don't love the sick weak and poor, as much as they hate the strong.
Is this offensive?
I don't know if it's offensive or not, but everyone likes to think of themselves as the strong. Take a zombie movie/show, for instance. Everyone thinks they are one of the heroic zombie-killers, the protagonist, mowing down a horde of zombies.
No one ever thinks about how when there's one dude killing hundreds of zombies...that's odds of hundreds to one that you would actually be one of the zombies, not the hero.
You advocate for the strong, but if you aren't a billionaire or a household name, what you don't realize is that YOU are the weak, the faceless, the interchangable. YOU are a forgettable zombie, packed into the middle of horde. Your cry you think is so fearful and scary mixes with hundreds of others and ends up being a low moan. That's who you are, that's who I am. That's who your loved ones are, your family and friends. All faceless, generic zombies in the middle of a horde.
Don't advocate for the strong. They don't need it. They will never even know you exist.
There are different types of strength than money and influence.
Not according to the strong. Delude yourself if you want, (I'm sure you have oodles of "inner strength", "moral fiber" etc. So do I.) but the fact remains that we do not affect our world to any significant degree, at all.
Yeah but that's just like.... your opinion about the definition lol - and any view rooted in some rooted static absolute concept as it seems is the case here - is not usually shared on my behalf.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: anatomality]
#27470773 - 09/16/21 03:24 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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anatomality said: TL;dr the vaccine WONT be enough, ever.
Beware those champions of the weak. They think nothing of sacrificing the strong.
They don't love the sick weak and poor, as much as they hate the strong.
Is this offensive?
It's based
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: twighead] 3
#27470782 - 09/16/21 03:32 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the responses. You are stronger than you know.
I absolutely identify with the strong. I love my life, I feel filled with purpose, usefulness and power. I see myself capable of changing my circumstances, and pursuing what I desire. I feel apt and able. I love it. I have meaningful relationships, and engaging activities.
I guess what I mean is simply that I don't feel oppressed. I don't like scared people trying to make me scared like them. I feel like they are sometimes frustrated with my lack of concern, and they NEED me to feel the same distress they feel (is that shit contagious?!).
I don't really watch the news or care about Bezos. I buy shit from Amazon from time to time. Does that make me an oppressor? Nope. Bezos is making things easier for everyone. Could it be better? Sure. Maybe he should be taxed more, and his money redistributed... But how much and to who? (I would tend to agree that he's got too much... He kinda did revolutionize online shopping doe?).
Because I feel this way, I can probably more reliably help people. I want to help, and I feel like it's my duty.
I have this sinking feeling that the physically healthy, emotionally balanced and mentally apt are the ones keeping this whole shit show together. Hate the cops? Could you be one? Can you help? Will you? Why do you hate? Focus on yourself.
Want to help the sick and elderly? Learn how to work in a elder center, contribute your time, your life force. Don't try to think that ranting about vaccines and staying home hoarding cans is making a difference. Staying home isn't actually helping. Don't feel like you can make a difference? That's a shame, I bet you could. Everyone can. Covid is here to stay. Vaccines and masks can be used, but disease and death is the norm. This isn't new.
Nature is cruel.
Isolation and division is real and bad. If we must all die, let's struggle together.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates isn't keeping you down. You are. Is covid making you unhappy? How? Do you have covid? No? Why are you unhappy? Can you make changes? Always look at yourself before searching for an outside excuse for your problems. Now go outside and run 5k.
/Rant, you guys are good guys. Sorry if I come off sounding like a maniac. I like drinking coffee.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: anatomality] 2
#27471272 - 09/17/21 03:33 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great post anatomality. You’re absolutely right, people should feel strong. People should not act like victims.
I think (and I could be wrong but it’s at least what I understood) that when people referred to others feeling strong, they meant in a way where people think “it can’t happen to me”.
For example, I know people who argue that they can’t get COVID because they’re relatively healthy. Then I present to them healthy people who got it and their response is “but I’m different”. So I think the notion of “strong” recently discussed here is about people being deluded that they are invincible because something is very special about them.
But again, you’re completely right and I love your post. We need to understand how incredibly privileged the vast majority of us are here and that we are in positions to do so much good for ourselves and others.
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Oh ok guys, I guess we're ALL the one and only heroic protagonist. You know that 95% of men rate themselves as "above average" drivers? That's what you're all doing.
Besides the illogicality of "beware the champions of the weak". Oh so we should champion the strong? Why? They are already strong. The strong SHOULD champion and help the weak.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
#27471332 - 09/17/21 05:29 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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budmanman said: The vaccine won't be enough
It won't be.
Every single one of us will get Covid.
Every last one of us, and most more than once too.
There won't be herd immunity. (hi5 antvaxxers )
Its up to you whether you catch YOUR COVID vaccinated or unvaccinated.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Asante] 1
#27471385 - 09/17/21 07:13 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes you will catch it, yes you will get sick and yes you will be a cry baby about it.
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
#27471396 - 09/17/21 07:26 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Yes you will catch it, yes you will get sick and yes you will be a cry baby about it.
What if I live in a cave in the woods?
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budmanman said: Yes you will catch it, yes you will get sick and yes you will be a cry baby about it.
What if I live in a cave in the woods?
Then, according to the current main-stream theory of the origin of COVID, you will get it from the bats (or batman depending on which cave you hide in)
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: budmanman]
#27471405 - 09/17/21 07:37 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Yes you will catch it, yes you will get sick and yes you will be a cry baby about it.
As long as I can keep on crying I'm not on a ventilator.
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Socrateshroom said:
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budmanman said: Yes you will catch it, yes you will get sick and yes you will be a cry baby about it.
What if I live in a cave in the woods?
Then, according to the current main-stream theory of the origin of COVID, you will get it from the bats (or batman depending on which cave you hide in)
Oh damn, forgot about that. *looks up slows to see hundreds of bats sleeping*
Fuuuuccckkkk.... *bat shit drips down from the ceiling and into my mouth as I speak*
Ahhhhh!!!!
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Edited by Bacchuschillin (09/17/21 08:21 AM)
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: Asante]
#27471444 - 09/17/21 08:16 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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budmanman said: The vaccine won't be enough
It won't be.
Every single one of us will get Covid.
Every last one of us, and most more than once too.
There won't be herd immunity. (hi5 antvaxxers )
Its up to you whether you catch YOUR COVID vaccinated or unvaccinated.
well as long as these vaccine mandates hold out it's up to us on whether we catch it vaccinated or not
-------------------- [quote]koods said: Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote] [quote]koods said: Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]
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Re: The vaccine won't be enough. [Re: paradoxlost]
#27471684 - 09/17/21 11:58 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ball Edema - band name
Vaccine Balls - album title
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Has anyone studied a potential rise in anti-bat hate crime violence since all this started?
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