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I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced
    #26871788 - 08/09/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hello, firstly thank you all for the input, I really appreciate it.
This is my first attempt at innoculating, and I am very stressed because I believe I may have contaminated my Uncle Ben's bags with chemicals in ozium.

I read that you could never be too sterile, so I basically hotboxed a room with ozium, tons of it. And then, in between innoculating my bags, I sprayed more ozium around the bags; never directly into the bags (obviously) but above and all around. Like I used way too much ozium to be safe, but I'm wondering if this may harm the grain bags.

I am now stressed that I maybe should chuck the bags and redo the whole process because I do not want chemicals seeped into the bags.

For clarification, this is before any mycelium grows, or before I spawn to bulk, so I assume the ozium chemicals may get into the rice, at worst.

If, assuming, the mycelium grows just fine, and the mushrooms look just fine, are these safe to consume? Will they be less potent or mutated with toxins/chemicals?

I really hope I'm overthinking this, but have received mixed opinions and would love the opinion of anyone experienced with this.

I would hate for my first and only attempt for these mushrooms to be contaminated with ozium and chemicals. Thanks so much folks


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238] * 1
    #26871792 - 08/09/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You're overthinking this. Ozium would have no effect as I use it on a daily basis to remove a certain musk from my house.
I've used it in my grow room with no ill effects to my health or my myceliums health.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238] * 1
    #26871793 - 08/09/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

if ur fucking with uncle bens ozium is the least of your worries but id suggest throwjng them out and following an actual tek from proven grows here and stay away from the island of misfit growers(redit) 

search for bods teks pick one you like and follow it to the letter and you will have more mushrooms than u know what to do with


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
    #26871794 - 08/09/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620] * 1
    #26871795 - 08/09/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

he's contaminated his uncle bens
w/osmium



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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26871796 - 08/09/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
    #26871798 - 08/09/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
    #26871806 - 08/09/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What is so wrong with UB's tek? I did it because it is discreet and very simple. I just want to make clear I used a shit-ton of ozium, to the point where it was clouded, so I'm sure some amounts, maybe micro-amounts, but still some, seeped their way into my rice. I know I would not want to eat food with ozium, so I wanted to verify if this would harm my rice.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushhead]
    #26871808 - 08/09/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you so much. I just want to be clear when I say "use ozium," I mean spray a ton everywhere, even over the bags which were already inoculated, so it's very likely some amounts might have seeped in.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26871810 - 08/09/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

stop worrying about the ozium and worry about how unstable UB tek is.
Go and read up on bods teks, pastys teks, and there are others too.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26871814 - 08/09/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Okay well first off as far as I know ozium  doesnt sanitize anything so theres no point in spraying it :shrug:

Secondly I totally understand trying to be overly careful but dead serious your going WAY overkill, the air will never be sanitized, in fact the only time you spray anything is inside of a SAB (still air box) and then all you spray is soapy water and it's purely just to get the air to settle and cause contamination to "stick" to the SAB

I've literally done open air inoculation of PF cakes when I first started and had no issues (not that its recommended) but it just goes to show that proper technique is more efficient than overly sanitizing stuff

Your mushrooms should be fine if the bag was closed when you sprayed stuff though then dont worry


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26871819 - 08/09/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

if u think its simple ur in for a rude awakening its a fuckin contamination in a bag man. i suggest u look into the link i provided. the ppl here know what we are talking about all that redit and facebook crap is garbage im telling u that uncle bens is not a good method to vultivate mushrooms. if u want to use brown rice go with the pf tek. and first off shooting dirty spores into anything is always a gamble anyway. you really need to use agar to obtain a strong clean culture before and inoculating with that. but if u have to use spores cuz you really dont feel like or care to do it the safe way then u def wanna go the pf tek route. brf is the safest thing to shoot nasty ass spores into. all of the proper information you need is in that link i provided and they are proven over and over again


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: DnDRnD]
    #26871823 - 08/09/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you, but I want to make clear the bags were open when I sprayed ozium over. It is supposed to be an air-sanitizer, by the way.

They were open, the corner was cut about 1", and I taped micropore tape over. That's why I'm a bit stressed over it.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushhead]
    #26871825 - 08/09/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I appreciate it. If these bags fail, I will look into those; I'm hoping they don't though.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
    #26871828 - 08/09/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Not trying to sound like a lazy fuck here, but when I read those teks, I'm immediately overwhelmed, it seems like a meth lab almost. If these bags fail, I will look into them, but it seems like a ton of work compared to injecting a clean bag.

And I do want to make clear that the ozium sanitizer was sprayed above bags which were already opened, simply taped up, but still opened.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26871836 - 08/09/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yah those are fucked most likely.

Make a sab it's a box with two big holes for your arms. 5th graders could grow cubes. The skill level is almost nothing.

You just have to belieeeeve!


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26871840 - 08/09/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

rickomalley238 said:
Not trying to sound like a lazy fuck here, but when I read those teks, I'm immediately overwhelmed, it seems like a meth lab almost. If these bags fail, I will look into them, but it seems like a ton of work compared to injecting a clean bag.

And I do want to make clear that the ozium sanitizer was sprayed above bags which were already opened, simply taped up, but still opened.



Mush cult is nothing like creating a meth lab...
Multi Spore to Rye grain spawned into a monotub is the easiest process.
Sterilize your grain, use a Still Air Box to inoculate with your syringe, follow flame sterilizing procedures on your needle after every jar, colonize, spawn into coir/verm thats been boiled using the bucket tek, and after your tub consolidates bam mushrooms. You can do this in less than a month using Liquid Culture, 32 days with agar to grain, and like 60 days from Multi Spore.
Ozium kills bacteria in the air... but after the spray dissipates they come right back. Forget the ozium mate.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushboy]
    #26871845 - 08/09/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Fucked because of the ozium or because they are uncle bens? Specifics would be great because if I should know if they are good to consume assuming they do grow just fine. Do you recommend I toss these


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26871854 - 08/09/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Please forget about the ozium.
uncle bens tek is unstable and will most likely end with contamination.
If you like disappointment uncle bens is for you.


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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26871856 - 08/09/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Both:lol: .....:sad:

I'd toss and use a real method.


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