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I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced
#26871788 - 08/09/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello, firstly thank you all for the input, I really appreciate it. This is my first attempt at innoculating, and I am very stressed because I believe I may have contaminated my Uncle Ben's bags with chemicals in ozium.
I read that you could never be too sterile, so I basically hotboxed a room with ozium, tons of it. And then, in between innoculating my bags, I sprayed more ozium around the bags; never directly into the bags (obviously) but above and all around. Like I used way too much ozium to be safe, but I'm wondering if this may harm the grain bags.
I am now stressed that I maybe should chuck the bags and redo the whole process because I do not want chemicals seeped into the bags.
For clarification, this is before any mycelium grows, or before I spawn to bulk, so I assume the ozium chemicals may get into the rice, at worst.
If, assuming, the mycelium grows just fine, and the mushrooms look just fine, are these safe to consume? Will they be less potent or mutated with toxins/chemicals?
I really hope I'm overthinking this, but have received mixed opinions and would love the opinion of anyone experienced with this.
I would hate for my first and only attempt for these mushrooms to be contaminated with ozium and chemicals. Thanks so much folks
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You're overthinking this. Ozium would have no effect as I use it on a daily basis to remove a certain musk from my house. I've used it in my grow room with no ill effects to my health or my myceliums health.
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#26871793 - 08/09/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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if ur fucking with uncle bens ozium is the least of your worries but id suggest throwjng them out and following an actual tek from proven grows here and stay away from the island of misfit growers(redit)
search for bods teks pick one you like and follow it to the letter and you will have more mushrooms than u know what to do with
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#26871795 - 08/09/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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he's contaminated his uncle bens w/osmium

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#26871798 - 08/09/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ssssshhhhhhhh that is the name that shall not be spoken😂😂😂😂 but good 1 😃👍
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
#26871806 - 08/09/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is so wrong with UB's tek? I did it because it is discreet and very simple. I just want to make clear I used a shit-ton of ozium, to the point where it was clouded, so I'm sure some amounts, maybe micro-amounts, but still some, seeped their way into my rice. I know I would not want to eat food with ozium, so I wanted to verify if this would harm my rice.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushhead]
#26871808 - 08/09/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you so much. I just want to be clear when I say "use ozium," I mean spray a ton everywhere, even over the bags which were already inoculated, so it's very likely some amounts might have seeped in.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
#26871810 - 08/09/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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stop worrying about the ozium and worry about how unstable UB tek is. Go and read up on bods teks, pastys teks, and there are others too.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
#26871814 - 08/09/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay well first off as far as I know ozium doesnt sanitize anything so theres no point in spraying it
Secondly I totally understand trying to be overly careful but dead serious your going WAY overkill, the air will never be sanitized, in fact the only time you spray anything is inside of a SAB (still air box) and then all you spray is soapy water and it's purely just to get the air to settle and cause contamination to "stick" to the SAB
I've literally done open air inoculation of PF cakes when I first started and had no issues (not that its recommended) but it just goes to show that proper technique is more efficient than overly sanitizing stuff
Your mushrooms should be fine if the bag was closed when you sprayed stuff though then dont worry
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
#26871819 - 08/09/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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if u think its simple ur in for a rude awakening its a fuckin contamination in a bag man. i suggest u look into the link i provided. the ppl here know what we are talking about all that redit and facebook crap is garbage im telling u that uncle bens is not a good method to vultivate mushrooms. if u want to use brown rice go with the pf tek. and first off shooting dirty spores into anything is always a gamble anyway. you really need to use agar to obtain a strong clean culture before and inoculating with that. but if u have to use spores cuz you really dont feel like or care to do it the safe way then u def wanna go the pf tek route. brf is the safest thing to shoot nasty ass spores into. all of the proper information you need is in that link i provided and they are proven over and over again
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: DnDRnD]
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Thank you, but I want to make clear the bags were open when I sprayed ozium over. It is supposed to be an air-sanitizer, by the way.
They were open, the corner was cut about 1", and I taped micropore tape over. That's why I'm a bit stressed over it.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushhead]
#26871825 - 08/09/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I appreciate it. If these bags fail, I will look into those; I'm hoping they don't though.
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#26871828 - 08/09/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not trying to sound like a lazy fuck here, but when I read those teks, I'm immediately overwhelmed, it seems like a meth lab almost. If these bags fail, I will look into them, but it seems like a ton of work compared to injecting a clean bag.
And I do want to make clear that the ozium sanitizer was sprayed above bags which were already opened, simply taped up, but still opened.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
#26871836 - 08/09/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yah those are fucked most likely.
Make a sab it's a box with two big holes for your arms. 5th graders could grow cubes. The skill level is almost nothing.
You just have to belieeeeve!
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#26871840 - 08/09/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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rickomalley238 said: Not trying to sound like a lazy fuck here, but when I read those teks, I'm immediately overwhelmed, it seems like a meth lab almost. If these bags fail, I will look into them, but it seems like a ton of work compared to injecting a clean bag.
And I do want to make clear that the ozium sanitizer was sprayed above bags which were already opened, simply taped up, but still opened.
Mush cult is nothing like creating a meth lab... Multi Spore to Rye grain spawned into a monotub is the easiest process. Sterilize your grain, use a Still Air Box to inoculate with your syringe, follow flame sterilizing procedures on your needle after every jar, colonize, spawn into coir/verm thats been boiled using the bucket tek, and after your tub consolidates bam mushrooms. You can do this in less than a month using Liquid Culture, 32 days with agar to grain, and like 60 days from Multi Spore. Ozium kills bacteria in the air... but after the spray dissipates they come right back. Forget the ozium mate.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushboy]
#26871845 - 08/09/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fucked because of the ozium or because they are uncle bens? Specifics would be great because if I should know if they are good to consume assuming they do grow just fine. Do you recommend I toss these
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#26871854 - 08/09/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please forget about the ozium. uncle bens tek is unstable and will most likely end with contamination. If you like disappointment uncle bens is for you.
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#26871856 - 08/09/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Both .....
I'd toss and use a real method.
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#26871860 - 08/09/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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 We can't force ye to follow our advice OP, but ye should, ye really should.
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#26871871 - 08/09/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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aint nuttin wrong with a well run [meth] lab
i rated you lazy, shirking away from effort,
effort that will bring u sucess
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theres no helpin the helpless here mush we tried all we could. we just couldnt save him
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushboy]
#26872043 - 08/09/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Look guys, I get it, I'm a complete noob and if these fail I will try other methods, but for now please set aside the recommending other methods, I get it! But I need to know that if these unstable bags somehow become successful, whether it will be safe to eat them. Come on guys, I would really appreciate real input on just my question regarding the ozium, if this doesn't work I'm sold no questions asked!
But please, I'd really like to know if ozium in contact with the rice can contaminate mushrooms if they were to grow.
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#26872053 - 08/09/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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we gave u real input use the search engine and see how ur lil experiment usually turns out and what everyone knows to be fact about that silly shit. were only tryin to help ya man. we know what were talkn about
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
#26872059 - 08/09/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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In the rare event you grow a mushroom, sure. Eat it. 100000000% safe.
However,
The ozium shit isnt sterile air. It's going to blow contamination all over everything. You'll grow mold long before any myc can support fruit development. If you do manage to grow mushrooms it will be a miracle of nature.
Sorry dude.
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#26872063 - 08/09/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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#26872069 - 08/09/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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UR SILLY UNCLE BENS BAGS ARE FIGITY FIGITY FUCKED U DIDNT USE A SAB OR FOLLOW PROPER STERILE TECHNIQUE. WASTING 10$ ON A BOTTLE OF OZIUM AND SPRAYING IT LIKE A 1980s WHORE SPRAYED HAIRSPRAY DOES NOT QUALIFY AS STERILE. THROW IT IN THE GARBAGE AND FOLLOW PROPER STERILE PROCEDURES. EVEN IF YOU MAKE ANOTHER TRIP TO COSTCO FOR A CART FULL OF UNCLE BENS BAGS YOUR METHOD WILL NOT WORK CUZ EVEN THAT REQUIRES STERILE A WORKSPACE.
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#26872072 - 08/09/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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OP didnt upload any pics. We dont know for a fact that his efforts are completly fucked... now do we?
Have you seen some of the low tek methods they use in 3rd world countrys to grow mushies?
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I sense OP might be trollin.
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nah dude. OP... Rick. He messaged me rambling about ozium just like he is here, repeated the same questions like they hadn't already been answered.
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Jesus Christ lol, I have a million comments mock me and I'm trolling? No, I'm really not. I promise. This is a genuine concern of mine.
Look, I give you guys all the power here because I am aware you guys have much, much more knowledge than me. All respect to that.
I was simply worried these chemicals can seep into the grains of rice and contaminate my grow.
And look, guys, it's not like there is a 100% chance my tek will fail. There are many successes, especially on reddit. Sure, it's a pretty shit way to grow, but if it works, it works.
And it doesn't help your cause to discredit it completely! We will see how it goes, but do not hurt credibility by claiming it will 100% fail. Man, I legit was just paranoid that chemicals could mess it up.
And I did keep it quite sterile apart from a SAB. What's odd to me is you guys act like it will 100%, without a doubt, fail.
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0³ does kill germs but....
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#26872094 - 08/09/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well that's kind of a dick move to say I privately messaged you because I respected your knowledge. Alrighty then.
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#26872095 - 08/09/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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We already said that it wont affect it my man. I have said it multiple times to just forget your worry, ozium isn't going to make a difference one way or the other in your endeavor.
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#26872096 - 08/09/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fuck it... i'm gonna scoop me a bag of uncle bens for shits and giggles. What do i really stand to lose, $1.99?
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Quote:
mushboy said: In the rare event you grow a mushroom, sure. Eat it. 100000000% safe.
However,
The ozium shit isnt sterile air. It's going to blow contamination all over everything. You'll grow mold long before any myc can support fruit development. If you do manage to grow mushrooms it will be a miracle of nature.
Sorry dude.
This is what I was wondering. Thanks, man.
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mushhead said: We already said that it wont affect it my man. I have said it multiple times to just forget your worry, ozium isn't going to make a difference one way or the other in your endeavor.
I appreciate it. I only wanted clarification, as some said the ozium would in-fact affect it. I just didn't want to be eating toxins here. But believe you me, if this fails, I respect your guys knowledge and will try the recommended teks!
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LotKid said: Fuck it... i'm gonna scoop me a bag of uncle bens for shits and giggles. What do i really stand to lose, $1.99? 
With all respect to everyone else here, maybe check out reddit's unclebens subreddit. There are lots, and lots of successes. Upon anecdotes, I'd say at least 50-80% of bags are successful. I don't get why it's so shitted on here, it really is beginner friendly and introduces one to the process. Denigrating it only hurts everyone's cause!
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#26872104 - 08/09/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is my grow kit fruiting chamber but uncle bens bags work really well in it too
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#26872105 - 08/09/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not claiming complete failure. I'd love to see you succeed, OP. But, the cards are stacked against you.
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#26872107 - 08/09/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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R- TARDIT is full of idiots that dont know wtf they are talking about. if they r so smart fuckin go there already🤷🏼🤷🏼
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LotKid said: Fuck it... i'm gonna scoop me a bag of uncle bens for shits and giggles. What do i really stand to lose, $1.99? 
With all respect to everyone else here, maybe check out reddit's unclebens subreddit. There are lots, and lots of successes. Upon anecdotes, I'd say at least 50-80% of bags are successful. I don't get why it's so shitted on here, it really is beginner friendly and introduces one to the process. Denigrating it only hurts everyone's cause!
It's shitted on because 50-80% success rate are horrible fucking numbers that nobody should be proud of... 
I dont need to check reddit. I dont really fuck with it. All i need is a bag of uncle bens and i can handoe the rest.
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LotKid said: I'm not claiming complete failure. I'd love to see you succeed, OP. But, the cards are stacked against you.

very much stacked against. were only tryin to help man
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LotKid said: I'm not claiming complete failure. I'd love to see you succeed, OP. But, the cards are stacked against you.

I cleaned the area very properly with alcohol, in a stagnant room, with (obviously) lots, lots, lots of ozium sanitizer. Don't bet against me because the room still smells fresh 4 days later.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
#26872115 - 08/09/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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But... screaming the same thing over and over.... how much is that heping anyone?
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jcm4620 said: this is my grow kit fruiting chamber but uncle bens bags work really well in it too

Alright, that's pretty funny ya ass.
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#26872119 - 08/09/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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In the time it takes to find out you could use a more reliable method and be that much closer to actually growing mushrooms.
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LotKid said: But... screaming the same thing over and over.... how much is that heping anyone?
I'm not saying the same thing my dude! People are telling me I'm bound to fail, dump the bullshit, etc. when my simple question is not really regarding that. Sure, if 50% of my 6 bags make it that's still enough mushrooms for me maybe indefinitely!
Forcing these complex methods down a noobs throat is not fun tbh. I was trying to convey my question which was whether, if I am successful, the chemicals in ozium would damage my health or the mushrooms. And that's answered now, so thank you. But that was all the reason for repetition here.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: mushboy]
#26872123 - 08/09/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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can uncle bens do this
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LotKid said: But... screaming the same thing over and over.... how much is that heping anyone?
I'm not saying the same thing my dude! People are telling me I'm bound to fail, dump the bullshit, etc. when my simple question is not really regarding that. Sure, if 50% of my 6 bags make it that's still enough mushrooms for me maybe indefinitely!
Forcing these complex methods down a noobs throat is not fun tbh. I was trying to convey my question which was whether, if I am successful, the chemicals in ozium would damage my health or the mushrooms. And that's answered now, so thank you. But that was all the reason for repetition here.
50% hun lol well go flip a coin then im movin on
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
#26872128 - 08/09/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are not complex. You are assuming they are complex because its unfamiliar. Like anything else in life you gotta learn and shortcuts do not cut it in the long run.
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#26872131 - 08/09/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL COMPLEX METHODS THE PF TEK LOL
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LotKid said: But... screaming the same thing over and over.... how much is that heping anyone?
I'm not saying the same thing my dude! People are telling me I'm bound to fail, dump the bullshit, etc. when my simple question is not really regarding that. Sure, if 50% of my 6 bags make it that's still enough mushrooms for me maybe indefinitely!
Forcing these complex methods down a noobs throat is not fun tbh. I was trying to convey my question which was whether, if I am successful, the chemicals in ozium would damage my health or the mushrooms. And that's answered now, so thank you. But that was all the reason for repetition here.
You mis read
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jcm4620 said: can uncle bens do this

After i get some ben's... we'll see...
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#26872135 - 08/09/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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have fun guys were beating a dead horse here
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#26872138 - 08/09/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let's all relax.
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#26872139 - 08/09/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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jcm4620 said: can uncle bens do this

1. Yes 2. It 3. can
(all within the past 72 hours btw)
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#26872141 - 08/09/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PF tek is a waste of time. IMHO. I never did cakes... didnt see the point. I remember when using agar was considered "advanced" and everyone was reccommending to get your feet under you by shooting spore solution into karo and water, first.
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#26872154 - 08/09/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushboy said: They are not complex. You are assuming they are complex because its unfamiliar. Like anything else in life you gotta learn and shortcuts do not cut it in the long run.
If these fail, I will learn. I just only need so many mushrooms at once,I can't eat that many.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
#26872168 - 08/09/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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People here like to rag on Uncle Ben's, and compared to PC'ing your own grain spawn would be a step backwards, but I don't think its so bad to try first.
As long as you understand its limitations (it is overhydrated grain, you cannot control any variables and you cannot fully see the colonizing/colonized grain) and are willing to try other methods if it fails, it's totally reasonable to try the cheapest and easiest way to shrooms first.
It seems like it works for some people, and maybe it will work for you too.
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ItsaMeShroomio said: People here like to rag on Uncle Ben's, and compared to PC'ing your own grain spawn would be a step backwards, but I don't think its so bad to try first.
As long as you understand its limitations (it is overhydrated grain, you cannot control any variables and you cannot fully see the colonizing/colonized grain) and are willing to try other methods if it fails, it's totally reasonable to try the cheapest and easiest way to shrooms first.
It seems like it works for some people, and maybe it will work for you too.
Thanks, dude.. a breath of fresh air.
All I was concerned of is whether overuse of ozium near open bags would screw everything up.
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#26872194 - 08/09/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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no open bags not in a sab does
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#26872206 - 08/09/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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By "open" I think he means having a corner sliced open and covered with micropore tape, which most of us would not call "open" any more than we would call a closed jar with micropore taped holes "open".
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#26872215 - 08/09/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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was it sliced open and taped in a sab?? no it wasnt so id call that open air inoculation
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#26872229 - 08/09/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure, and I agree that's a bad idea. It just seems like there is a bunch of talking past each other going on, which is partially coming from different understandings of the same words.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: ItsaMeShroomio]
#26872232 - 08/09/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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well im out of breath good luck i tried to point ya in the right direction
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ItsaMeShroomio said: By "open" I think he means having a corner sliced open and covered with micropore tape, which most of us would not call "open" any more than we would call a closed jar with micropore taped holes "open".
Right, this is what I mean.
And then I get a conflicting post (above this) where he says it's not okay, and I'm left to question whether the ozium was a bad idea (when I think he's trying to say the open air, in general, was a bad idea, and the ozium made no difference), this is the basis for all confusion in this thread. I still can't tell if the ozium was bad or not in terms of not causing contamination per se, but causing chemicals to seep into the spawn.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: rickomalley238]
#26872292 - 08/09/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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that chemicals seeping into spawn shit is all in your head. none of us were ever talking about that.
we were talking about doing open air inoculations with a ms syringe and a bag of uncle bens rice. the combination of those factors make this whole thing a really really bad idea. thats what was being communicated to you.
the other bit about eating the would be fruits is another subject. mushrooms dont uptake like plants they consume what they want/need and leave the rest. EVEN IF you damn ozium was toxic like you think it is it wouldnt really matter.
the main point is inocuating your bag of rice in the manner that you did. thats the issue.
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mushboy said: that chemicals seeping into spawn shit is all in your head. none of us were ever talking about that.
we were talking about doing open air inoculations with a ms syringe and a bag of uncle bens rice. the combination of those factors make this whole thing a really really bad idea. thats what was being communicated to you.
the other bit about eating the would be fruits is another subject. mushrooms dont uptake like plants they consume what they want/need and leave the rest. EVEN IF you damn ozium was toxic like you think it is it wouldnt really matter.
the main point is inocuating your bag of rice in the manner that you did. thats the issue.
I appreciate the upfrontedness. So, if I were to do a PF Tek for instance, do you recommend against this as well, because it is using a syringe?
What if I did the UB, but with a SAB? Do you still think it's not good?
At the moment, all that is viable for me is a syringe. Agars/whatnot are way too complex for me.
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#26872329 - 08/09/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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pf tek sab spore syringe 👍👍👍
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mushboy said: that chemicals seeping into spawn shit is all in your head. none of us were ever talking about that.
we were talking about doing open air inoculations with a ms syringe and a bag of uncle bens rice. the combination of those factors make this whole thing a really really bad idea. thats what was being communicated to you.
the other bit about eating the would be fruits is another subject. mushrooms dont uptake like plants they consume what they want/need and leave the rest. EVEN IF you damn ozium was toxic like you think it is it wouldnt really matter.
the main point is inocuating your bag of rice in the manner that you did. thats the issue.
I appreciate the upfrontedness. So, if I were to do a PF Tek for instance, do you recommend against this as well, because it is using a syringe?
What if I did the UB, but with a SAB? Do you still think it's not good?
At the moment, all that is viable for me is a syringe. Agars/whatnot are way too complex for me.
Let's see if I can solve this thread.
1. If you get mushrooms from these bags of uncle Ben's, then they will be 100% okay to eat. People have grown mushrooms out of way worse than rice sprayed with a bit of propylene glycol.
2. You can have success with your uncle bens tek if you use a SAB and ensure none of your syringes have contams.
The reason why people are giving you a hard time is because well no matter how much shit you spray in the air, unless you're in a vacuum, you're probably exposing your substrate to spores and bacteria.
We try to eliminate the contams by putting our shit into a still air box and for the more dedicated hobbyists, laminar flow hoods.
The problem with syringes is that they could be 100% great but more often than not are loaded with contams.
So, from everyone's perspective you've exposed a bunch of rice to a whole slew of contams and thats what they're trying to say.
For all we know, you're gonna have massive flushes and everything's gonna be great. But, since most of us have experience dealing with shit ways to grow and dealing with contams, we can only suggest that maybe the route you're taking isn't the best. There are a lot of options out there that aren't much more complicated than uncle Ben's.
It just depends on how much work you wanna put in. Like you're already at this point, so may as well go pick up a tote from home depot.
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Re: I am very worried, and debating tossing my bags because of ozium, advice appreciated from anyone experienced [Re: jcm4620]
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if you can only use a syringe the safest and easiest way to get fruits is making some kind of basic pf style cake and fruit the cake with a ziplock bag w/some holes.
you can make a pf style cake with all kinds of stuff. i made one with dirt from a flower pot and some brf. nothing else.
it was sterilized, you could steam with a stock pot, inside a wonton soup container.

once colonized i removed the lid and put in a chamber but you could easily use a bag with holes

waited for shrooms

ill take that over uncle bens any day... but one day ill try it for shitz.
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This thread had me busting up laughing!!! Ozium & Uncle Bens FTL!
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The infamous Ozium thread I have been hearing about...
Rick, your a real peach! 🍑 Speaking of things that you can put in your mouth, I can't see a peach emoji and not shoot you my eggplant. 🍆 Open wide....🤤
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Damn you guys really had to bump this shit and remind me of the day I gassed myself and my uncle bens bags.
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lol i didnt do it but it is funny to go back and laugh at yourself sometimes huh😃
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rickomalley238 said: Damn you guys really had to bump this shit and remind me of the day I gassed myself and my uncle bens bags.
I’m sure you’ll never live it down if you check out my first post I failed my first PF Tek miserably. Second one went alright with all my jars making it, second was even better when I utilized CBKs bottom watering Tek, and third/last PF run I used mushroomnates BRF to bulk that got my foot in the door for bulk grows. Forward progression bro, forward progression.
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jcm4620 said: lol i didnt do it but it is funny to go back and laugh at yourself sometimes huh😃
is what it is lmao.
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rickomalley238 said: Damn you guys really had to bump this shit and remind me of the day I gassed myself and my uncle bens bags.
I’m sure you’ll never live it down if you check out my first post I failed my first PF Tek miserably. Second one went alright with all my jars making it, second was even better when I utilized CBKs bottom watering Tek, and third/last PF run I used mushroomnates BRF to bulk that got my foot in the door for bulk grows. Forward progression bro, forward progression.
True stuff man.
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I cant see a bottle of ozium without imagining some dude bug bombing himself out of his project room. So at least that
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