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krock
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Anglerfish]
#26855357 - 07/31/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, we are freely allowed to move anywhere we want in what is known as "utmark" - best translated "outer fields" - which means any areas except ones with residences. So as long as you shut the gates behind you and don't disturb animals, you're free to roam.
Thank you for explaining!
Do I understand it correctly that if an area is defined as "innmarksbeite" (inner pasture) it cannot be lawfully traversed as it is an inner field?
I ask because I found this really nice looking cow pasture, but it is in a weird place. Surrounded by normal houses and an elderly home, but no farms nearby. I searched on gårdskart and apparently the area is defined as "fulldyrka jord" (completely cultivated soil) and "innmarksbeite" (inner pasture). So I am not really sure if I am allowed there or not. Though the gate has a sign on it that tells you to close the gate after yourself, which could be taken as a sign that it is okay to go in there.
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Anglerfish
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: krock] 1
#26855689 - 07/31/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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krock said: Do I understand it correctly that if an area is defined as "innmarksbeite" (inner pasture) it cannot be lawfully traversed as it is an inner field?
I ask because I found this really nice looking cow pasture, but it is in a weird place. Surrounded by normal houses and an elderly home, but no farms nearby. I searched on gårdskart and apparently the area is defined as "fulldyrka jord" (completely cultivated soil) and "innmarksbeite" (inner pasture). So I am not really sure if I am allowed there or not. Though the gate has a sign on it that tells you to close the gate after yourself, which could be taken as a sign that it is okay to go in there.
In theory, you are not allowed to go there without permission. In practice, it depends on the situation I guess. Whatever you choose to do, just make sure you are polite and don't compromise the landowner's interest.
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krock
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Anglerfish]
#26856051 - 07/31/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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In theory, you are not allowed to go there without permission. In practice, it depends on the situation I guess. Whatever you choose to do, just make sure you are polite and don't compromise the landowner's interest.
That is sound advice! Will keep that in mind, even if I am legally walking around on a pasture 
I did some more reading about inner/outer pastures and I found that all farm land areas in Norway have to be reported and classified in the AR5 system. In this system you cannot specify outer pastures, only inner pastures. So the pasture I found may not be an inner pasture after all.
I checked the Norwegian encyclopedia and it says that outer pastures are considered as natural occurring forest or mountain pastures.
The AR5 definition of an inner pasture is that it cannot be harvested by machine and that it has enough of the correct grass plants to keep livestock fed. So both inner and outer pastures fall into this category.
I am still unsure if the pasture I found is considered natural, but I guess that's what either makes it legal to walk around on or not.
There also seems to be an interesting law on traversing inner fields. It states that if there is an established trail that leads to an outer field, you can walk said trail. The pasture I found actually has a trail like this. So I guess I can at least walk into the fenced off area and walk the trail 
One cool thing I found while reading is that in one of the AR5 brochures about inner pastures (PDF) they detail what seems like every single plant that may grow on such a pasture. It's a pretty cool ID book for the Norwegian pasture flora.
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Anglerfish] 1
#26857674 - 08/01/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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krock said: Anglerfish, I read in one of the previous nordic threads that you said that in norway we can freely walk into fenced off pastures. Because of allemannsretten.
I tried looking for this on miljødirektoratet's website. The closest I found was this statement: "ikke forstyrre husdyr på beite. Lukk grinder etter deg". I guess this is implicitly stating that you're allowed in?
Yes, we are freely allowed to move anywhere we want in what is known as "utmark" - best translated "outer fields" - which means any areas except ones with residences. So as long as you shut the gates behind you and don't disturb animals, you're free to roam.
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If we actually have this right, how can I explain this to the farmer in a nice way? 
You will normally not have to explain anything to the farmers as long as you follow rules stated. I have only once been confronted, and that was probably because I was moving a bit too close to a horse stable. In any case, just be polite and say hello if you meet anyone. People will usually mind their own business.
Hehe in America we'd get a shotgun pointed in our face or a warning shot fired in the air from a distance. Man I wish we had it as free as y'all did <3.
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Typerwritermonky]
#26860351 - 08/03/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: ShroomAnon] 1
#26861936 - 08/04/20 03:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Went out again to the same spot yesterday, pretty rain heavy so it was a limited trip. I didn't cover the whole track, it just got too wet and annoying. But they were popping everywhere. So funny, I have probably picked up to about a 1000 already this season, and I haven't even checked any of my other spots yet. If things continue like this, it could very well be one of the best seasons so far.

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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Anglerfish] 1
#26862479 - 08/04/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very nice Anglerfish!

And thanks for the nomination!
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: knarkkorven]
#26869705 - 08/08/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Greetings from Estonia. i took a walk on my forest path about 1h. i got 3 Macrolepiota procera, ~1kg Cantharellus cibarius and handful of psilocybe semilanceata. 
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pekingtechnicolor

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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: ST1R]
#26870886 - 08/09/20 01:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lovely findings. When did it last rain in your area? Have yet to check my spots because of little to no rain. Although I did yield some nice chanterelles (2kg) two weeks ago.
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: ST1R]
#26871057 - 08/09/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's a beautiful little collection.
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Anglerfish]
#26901645 - 08/27/20 06:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's finally starting to happen in here! It has been very warm and dry August in my whereabouts. Even Pholiotina cyanopus stopped fruiting, but yesterday I noticed them fruiting again after a few days of rain. Anyhow, about 25 libs spotted today at my backyard meadow, 100m from my house. 
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: velho] 2
#26905851 - 08/29/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Little mushroom porn from my forest path 
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knarkkorven
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: ST1R]
#26905950 - 08/29/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lovely!
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: knarkkorven]
#26907119 - 08/30/20 05:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea, pretty safe to say it has begun in here! 

This is from my backyard meadow, 50-100m from my house. I stopped counting about after 200 specimens.
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: velho]
#26907397 - 08/30/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Still not finding anything down south yet :L
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Anglerfish]
#26909504 - 08/31/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Results from today's hunt, went a stroll around a park, sadly no caps yet . Wrong habitat, or could it be too dry and warm? (18C today) Southwestern Baltic States.
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: goonofshroom]
#26909909 - 08/31/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good to see all the main guys having a go already! Just as I thought before taking my first peek in this forum this year
Raining for three days straight already. Must get the dust off my boots as well! Happy season to all!
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: SideNote]
#26910973 - 08/31/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really hoping to find my first wild actives this year 🤞
I have been scoping out some spots all year just waiting for the right weather. Hopefully I manage to find a few!
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waawaa
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: Bartleby] 1
#26918984 - 09/05/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Today, my first hunt, EST.



Edited by waawaa (09/05/20 10:16 AM)
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Re: ★★★ Official Nordic / Baltic P. semilanceata season 2020 ★★★ [Re: waawaa]
#26920885 - 09/06/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Congrats on your first successful hunt!
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