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Re: Masks [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26872448 - 08/09/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I was looking on Amazon and all the KN95s I saw were not certified. Some were even tested and the quality varied wildly. Like within the same pack some were of KN95 quality and some were blocking out less than 10% of partials. That put me off pretty qucik.


What I'm doing instead is putting a pm2.5 filter in my little mesh mask. It doesn't cover my face perfectly because the filters weren't designed for that specific mask so... Would rather have a proper mask. Not just for the virus since I'm pretty decent at the whole distancing thing but also because I'm working with some stuff in the house I'm renovating you really don't want to breathe in.


Which is also how I know how effective it is. I know very well when I breathe that shit in.


Also why I know that the flimsy little face coverings alot of people are using do basically nothing as far as stopping you from breathing shit in. I maintain they're probably pretty decent at stopping you from spitting stuff out though. It limits your spray at least.


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Re: Masks [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26872469 - 08/09/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Oh and as for why we're not all getting N95 masks... I mean it would take a tremendous amount of resources to ramp up production overnight and no one wants to deal with that amount of bureaucracy so the best they're shooting for right now is just meeting the needs of medical staff and people in industries that require the respirator.


My state government bought up basically all the PPE from our coal mining and similar industries for medical professionals. So while it seems like we're finally meeting the medical needs there's alot of people in business that are probably still having trouble getting them.


Basically at this pace by the time we had enough N95s for all 300 million of us to use on a regular basis they would already be handing out vaccines.



We're not a country that has thousands of factories that can be quickly and easily converted into manufacturing certifiable respirators. It would take effort no one really sees as worth it.


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Re: Masks [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26872540 - 08/09/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It seems like they'd rather just throw our tax dollars at the problem and say they're "fixing it" instead of engineering solutions. They deposited $1200 checks into everyones account and want to give a percentage of the population $600 a week indefinitely. With that kind of money they could have built factories and produced high quality ppe for everyone. Or use those funds to help kids get back to school more safely. We're all walking around with tiny computers in our pockets but it's not possible for us to access N95 masks?  I'm just disappointed. Humanity has accomplished such extraordinary things. I don't believe it when someone says, "that's not possible."

A respirator with filter cartridges should be available and highly effective. Just cumbersome.


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Re: Masks [Re: Bikerfool] * 1
    #26872666 - 08/10/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Let's not destroy the ecosystem over a cold how bout it


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Re: Masks [Re: Hartford]
    #26872767 - 08/10/20 06:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I hate it when people rip their mask off as the walk through the doorway out of the store, I wait till im at least a few meters away from anyone else before I take the mask off, these people are breathing on who ever is at the front of the line to get in


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Re: Masks [Re: gopher]
    #26872791 - 08/10/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Is it possible to merge this and the main thread? Was going to cherry pick and move quotes over to post, but no time.


Just want to second both mentioned by morrowasted and gopher-


If you're not doing it the right way, it's pointless. Wait until you can manage to be 6 ft before taking off the sweaty hot mask. The whole point of the mask is to protect others, so stick to your values and position to wear a mask properly.

Since starting, I have seen many of my friends and fam wash their hands (sometimes needing reminding after coming from populated spot). The 20 seconds isn't an estimate, it's how long that is required to wash hands CORRECTLY.  Ever see surgery staff scrub up? Tops of your hands/knuckles/webbing between is just as important as palms, and if done properly, the whole washing experience will take at least 20 seconds.. don't forget to moisturize!

While I'm at it, if you read the sanitizer instructions- the way to purell includes vigorously rubbing your hands together until dry.


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Re: Masks [Re: BANANA.MAN] * 1
    #26872806 - 08/10/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
They havent been overwhelmed in Sweden So I dont see them doing any worse than most of the world when all is said and done. its not like there have been having a bunch of preventable death that would have been prevented had the healthcare system not been overwhelmed. because they havent been overwhelmed.




One interesting thing about Sweden is that it has a relatively high proportion of people who live alone. By some accounts the highest of any country in the world.


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Re: Masks [Re: gopher]
    #26872981 - 08/10/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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gopher said:
I hate it when people rip their mask off as the walk through the doorway out of the store, I wait till im at least a few meters away from anyone else before I take the mask off, these people are breathing on who ever is at the front of the line to get in



Guilty. Fuck it, you can go to a pub, people are packed like sardines on beaches. I've been going to the shop for the past 5 months. Wear the mask inside like the law says, take it off out the shop like the law says.


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Re: Masks [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #26873765 - 08/10/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

At this point, I've accepted the possibility that the virus is here to stay, and that it will probably spike up during the colder months every year (like the flu does). To that end, I'm looking forward to the point where hospitals are less overwhelmed so that we can focus on how to treat the symptoms of the virus once someone is infected. That would be nice.

All of that said, I wish we could reach that point without so many people dying along the way. I don't think it's controversial at all to say that we could have done more in the U.S. to reduce the number of deaths we've experienced thus far.


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Re: Masks [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26873941 - 08/10/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

They annoy the hell out of me but I do it anyway


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Re: Masks [Re: Surfiingbird]
    #26873943 - 08/10/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I forget it every time and have to turn back to my car to get it, people always look at me funny when I’m cussing walking back to get it


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Re: Masks [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26874393 - 08/11/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
For sure. Do you know where I can find n95


I think it funny the mask I'm currently using is a mesh mask with clips for filters. People on the reviews were complaining about how uncomfortable they were and difficult to breathe out of. I've never worn a mask designed to keep out harmful aerosols that were comfortable or easy to breathe through.


they sell them at local medical supply stores. Real ones, not kn95s. Couldnt find em for a while but theyre in stock now

Anyway even a regular surgical mask will work decently as long as you use it right. Not perfect by any means but there is a lot of room for improvement...


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