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Contam or just blueing? * 1
    #26865787 - 08/06/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hi again,

so i had this shoebox running inside here:


But unfortunetly the still air caused a blue/green mold to pop op un the wooden parts inside the chamber (yes i know pretty stupid to put wood inside a humidity chamber... im still very much a beginner). So i took the shoebox out but it was to late, the following day i noticed more of that on the top surface of the myc, there were also pins forming at that moment. So i just scooped to areas with the green stuff out and sprayed with iso (also i know this spreads the spores, should i just leave it and hope for the first flush?)
Since 2 days i didnt see any more of that sutff popping up but today i noticed some blue on my pins:




I hope this is due to damage from being dried out a little as the caps seem cracked. I now have misted, closed the lid more and hooked up the humidifier.
What do you think? Contam? if yes what do?

Thanks for having a look <3


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Mushroomancer]
    #26865902 - 08/06/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Not the best setup here, way to complicated.
Also not the best place down the floor for just one tub.
I`m curious what you mean with still air?
They need some air all the time.
With still or stall air you`ll get mold on everything.
I guess we have some cobeweb here.
By the way, i can`t see clearly, my glasses are getting repaired right now :cool:


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Goatrider] * 1
    #26869704 - 08/08/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah i know the setup sucks... I thought that the pump would push enough fresh air in there to keep FAE up without holes. Whatever...
By now the pins have grown quite nicely, very sad that i had to remove 2/3 of the top layer, would have been a good flush i think :sad:



Closeups of the concerning areas:



But im still unsure about those blue spots. There are no other sketchy looking party to be found. Are those safe to eat? Also i moved them out of the shoebox since i got sidepins like crazy




Anyways i would much appreciate any information about that blue stuff and how i should proceed since this is my second grow :heart:


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Mushroomancer]
    #26869871 - 08/08/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

it looks to my very inexperienced eye like that blueing is occuring inside the stem tissue, not on it's surface. Which, I would think, would indicate damaged and bruising, not mold contam. I *THINK* you are good, for now. Also, any idea why some of those caps seem to be cracking?


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Mushroomancer]
    #26869877 - 08/08/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Mushroomancer said:
Yeah i know the setup sucks... I thought that the pump would push enough fresh air in there to keep FAE up without holes. Whatever...
By now the pins have grown quite nicely, very sad that i had to remove 2/3 of the top layer, would have been a good flush i think :sad:



Closeups of the concerning areas:



But im still unsure about those blue spots. There are no other sketchy looking party to be found. Are those safe to eat? Also i moved them out of the shoebox since i got sidepins like crazy




Anyways i would much appreciate any information about that blue stuff and how i should proceed since this is my second grow :heart:




Looks like vert to me. It isn't the worst contam, you can still eat them. You wil propagate it if you mist, but imo you have to mist, the whole sub is cracking FFS, needs water. I'd harvest what you have (don't think they're gonna grow more) and dunk the substrate, for a second and hopefully better flush.


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Mushroomancer]
    #26869885 - 08/08/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I hope this is due to damage from being dried out a little as the caps seem cracked.





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Also, any idea why some of those caps seem to be cracking?




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The cubes are fine, no need to worry.


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Goatrider]
    #26869901 - 08/08/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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                        :biggrin:

The cubes are fine, no need to worry.




No, they're not. Growth looks stunted, shrooms are trying to pump water from a dry ass sub and there's vert. What's fine about it.


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Josex]
    #26869979 - 08/08/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I mentioned before, it's too dry.
They're fine to consume i meant, that's what op asked for :shrug:


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Goatrider]
    #26869987 - 08/08/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Mushroomancer]
    #26870007 - 08/08/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting set up there :strokebeard:

Yesw, its just bluing. No need to worry.


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Josex]
    #26870028 - 08/08/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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                        :biggrin:

The cubes are fine, no need to worry.




No, they're not. Growth looks stunted, shrooms are trying to pump water from a dry ass sub and there's vert. What's fine about it.




My quoting was a bit irritating, sorry for that.

But good you mentioned it, for no misleading info :thumbup:


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26870039 - 08/08/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for your input!
Well i think those cracks are due to transferring the sub from the shoebox. And the surface looks super shitty since i had to scoop :rolleyes: The sub feels heavy and is moist. But i the padawan here, still learning...  i will just harvest, dunk and hope for the best  :shrug:


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Mushroomancer]
    #26870051 - 08/08/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You saved some shrooms, that's quite a success already :thumbup:


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Goatrider]
    #26870054 - 08/08/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I stand by what I said, I don't think that's blueing at all, it looks like verticillium in the early stages. I've had that shit happen to me more than once and it starts looking like in the OP's pic, then it darkens as the disease progresses. 


Here you can see vert in an advanced stage and also some serious blueing.


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Re: Contam or just blueing? [Re: Josex]
    #26870072 - 08/08/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

For your next grow just leave the shoe box sitting somewhere that gets light with the lid on. If you have a fan or air moving a lot in the room you can keep the lid latched or with less air movement keep it unlatched or even with a corner raised a bit. Try those different things and give more air if the myc seems to be getting real fluffy and less air if it seems to be drying out.

If you prep your sub correctly you shouldn’t have to mist until the first flush, that’s what I shoot for with my lid adjustments. Keeping a steady moisture beaded surface while still allowing some fresh air.


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