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i was there. the snack van just moving along with peaceful protesters the cops chased everybody all the way through the city
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26868245 - 08/07/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: violent rioter attacking a vehicle in the road
I just looked at this link and saw right below some black dude holding up a bloody pig's head that looks like it was beaten and had the eye partly gouged out. These people are fucking weird man
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] 1
#26868251 - 08/07/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Poor PETA has no political home any longer...
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snack van outside e precinct cops herded people down stark for miles
the van and a few other vehicles were pretty much keeping order on the road the cops created mass chaos forcing protesters out onto roadways making them stop traffic. drivers were becoming irate trying to drive through there were a few vehicles driving along with protesters keeping them safe
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26868304 - 08/07/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I only just started reading about what you guys are talking about, I hear the guy tried cutting the brake cables, and I heard something about him or someone associated "casing the bridge"?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
#26868347 - 08/07/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Maybe that dude was targeted unfairly. Maybe he wasn't. I don't know. I do know that his actions after he hit the bike were unreasonable and aggressive.
Getting away from angry protesters damaging your truck is unreasonable? 
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Enlil said: He didn't give a fuck if anyone was hurt or killed.
Holy make believe dude! How do you know that?
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Enlil said: That's what he said. Notice that he didn't say, "you didn't give me any warning before attacking." Notice how he didn't say, "I was afraid for my safety."
It seems pretty obvious the guy was afraid for his safety. But you go on and make believe he wasn't. Because I can't possibly know like you do.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26868355 - 08/07/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The first words out of the guy's mouth after he got to safety were, ""“I don’t wanna run nobody over..."
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26868358 - 08/07/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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his motivations are irrelevant to the question of justified self defense on the part of the protesters
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] 2
#26868363 - 08/07/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your twisted view of what justified self defense is truly could bring an entire nation down if it was adopted as the norm.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 2
#26868371 - 08/07/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There’s so many stories out there of these rioters terrorizing the community they happen to be in. Check out this story of rioters bullying an old lady and splashing paint on her. https://ussanews.com/News1/2020/08/07/rioters-splash-paint-on-elderly-woman-get-in-her-face-when-she-stands-up-to-their-police-precinct-attack-this-isnt-your-world-anymore/
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26868422 - 08/07/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Look what these rioters did to an old man in a wheelchair
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26868433 - 08/07/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: Your twisted view of what justified self defense is truly could bring an entire nation down if it was adopted as the norm.
Look, If a guy with rusty red stains on his clothes were running toward me with a ax raised over his head and screaming a bloodcurdling warcry, I don't know for sure what his motivations are. Maybe he's just a firefighter who had a laundry accident and he's trying to save a puppy from a burning building behind me. I don't know, but I do know that I would be justified in using violence in self defense.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26868453 - 08/07/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Look what these rioters did to an old man in a wheelchair
Are we trying to create some make-believe like, say.... your opposition doesn't find this deplorable even though we do?
We don't know the full story though. Was it intentionally fired at him? Fuck that cop. Was it a ricochet? A sad, unfortunate accident that deserves full government compensation for pain and surgery.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] 2
#26868461 - 08/07/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: Your twisted view of what justified self defense is truly could bring an entire nation down if it was adopted as the norm.
Look, If a guy with rusty red stains on his clothes were running toward me with a ax raised over his head and screaming a bloodcurdling warcry, I don't know for sure what his motivations are. Maybe he's just a firefighter who had a laundry accident and he's trying to save a puppy from a burning building behind me. I don't know, but I do know that I would be justified in using violence in self defense.
I think humans who have developed the ability to reason beyond that of an adolescent have better capabilities of discernment than that.
It's funny, you think these people are effective on one hand with their protesting but on the other you treat them all, and arguably yourself, like they don't even have the most basic of reasoning and discernment skills.
IF that was true, these people will never be able to change jack shit. They better level up their ability to discern, and fuckin' fast.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26868685 - 08/07/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: I think humans who have developed the ability to reason beyond that of an adolescent have better capabilities of discernment than that.
It's funny, you think these people are effective on one hand with their protesting but on the other you treat them all, and arguably yourself, like they don't even have the most basic of reasoning and discernment skills.
IF that was true, these people will never be able to change jack shit. They better level up their ability to discern, and fuckin' fast.
Also you:
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
#26868751 - 08/07/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn is this subforums very own out of tune violin
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#26868993 - 08/07/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shiva, that is correct. Someone breaking (into) my car is like someone breaking into my house. I'm not going to wait around if they are acting violent. People have two legs and can move out of my way. I find those that thrust themselves in front of moving cars to try to stop them to be insane and suicidal.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26869011 - 08/07/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ted Wheeler, who has been on the side of the protesters/rioters almost the entire time, has finally admitted they have gone too far.
Second source.
The rioters the other day attempted to light a building on fire that people were presumably trapped inside. I believe it was a police building.
“When you commit arson with an accelerant in an attempt to burn down a building that is occupied by people who you have intentionally trapped inside, you are not demonstrating, you are attempting to commit murder..."
...Wheeler also warned that the city anticipated more “attacks on public buildings” in the immediate future, and told protesters that they were helping President Trump’s reelection effort.
“Don’t think for a moment that if you are participating in this activity, you are not being a prop for the reelection campaign of Donald Trump, because you absolutely are,” the mayor said. “If you don’t want to be part of that, then don’t show up.”
So, let's count the things I said last month that are true.
-The rioting is tearing the community apart and not fixing anything useful.
-The Mayor was an idiot for working with these people and he has to clean up the entire mess now.
-The rioting is likely helping Donald Trump get more votes
-Police are subdued and shootings are at a 30 year record high in the city.
It just keeps getting better and better. How much more chaos and destruction are you all willing to entertain, how much longer are you all going to side with the people who are going to send your cities to hell, before you wake the fuck up?
My predictions usually come true. All you have to do is figure out the nature of man and the nature of war. (War... war never changes.)
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 2
#26869024 - 08/07/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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did you learn everything you know from video games or just law enforcement and war?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26869043 - 08/07/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: Ted Wheeler, who has been on the side of the protesters/rioters almost the entire time, has finally admitted they have gone too far.
Second source.
The rioters the other day attempted to light a building on fire that people were presumably trapped inside. I believe it was a police building.
“When you commit arson with an accelerant in an attempt to burn down a building that is occupied by people who you have intentionally trapped inside, you are not demonstrating, you are attempting to commit murder..."
...Wheeler also warned that the city anticipated more “attacks on public buildings” in the immediate future, and told protesters that they were helping President Trump’s reelection effort.
“Don’t think for a moment that if you are participating in this activity, you are not being a prop for the reelection campaign of Donald Trump, because you absolutely are,” the mayor said. “If you don’t want to be part of that, then don’t show up.”
So, let's count the things I said last month that are true.
-The rioting is tearing the community apart and not fixing anything useful.
-The Mayor was an idiot for working with these people and he has to clean up the entire mess now.
-The rioting is likely helping Donald Trump get more votes
-Police are subdued and shootings are at a 30 year record high in the city.
It just keeps getting better and better. How much more chaos and destruction are you all willing to entertain, how much longer are you all going to side with the people who are going to send your cities to hell, before you wake the fuck up?
My predictions usually come true. All you have to do is figure out the nature of man and the nature of war. (War... war never changes.)
Just gonna re-post because your dishonest deflection of all my main points to ask such a stupid question rubs me the wrong way and I don't like that it fell off the last page. This needs to be read.
I *should* be happy you've played Fallout... we may actually have some fun things to talk about in other situations, but instead of recognizing common ground you just find another way to turn it into an insult.
You're a class act, Ballsalsa
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