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Ferdinando


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middle way solution
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in the beginning focus on right speech etc.
right mindfulness
right concentration
right understanding
and right speech
I found my mom to be not so able to get closer to the middle waya nd how could she get closer to it?
this was during psychiatry
I found that she coul come much closer if she focused on these things right speech etc.
and I found that
are two soultions
painting and beginning
and we wouldn't come dogs in trunk without space at the seats
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redgreenvines
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dogs only want to sit if they sit on top of you.
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Buster_Brown
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And what is 'Right Speach'?
If slanderous accusations result in a period of advantage, is that not right speech?
If the end result of bloody confrontation a century of peace then is that not Right Action?
We are taught that sacrificing our own futures for the sake of others is honorable. The thief and murderer accompanying Jesus at Golgotha are no less deserving of their rewards by these definitions.
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Grapefruit
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I don't think right anything is strictly defineable. It's something you learn as you go, sometimes something may seem wrong to a lot of people but it was actually right. Just have to keep your wits about you and question whether your speech is right or wrong I guess.
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redgreenvines
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Buster_Brown said: And what is 'Right Speach'?
If slanderous accusations result in a period of advantage, is that not right speech?
If the end result of bloody confrontation a century of peace then is that not Right Action?
We are taught that sacrificing our own futures for the sake of others is honorable. The thief and murderer accompanying Jesus at Golgotha are no less deserving of their rewards by these definitions.
the noble truths are about being, well admirable, noble, you know that being duplicitous is not noble. right speech is never about lying. that's dishonesty.
however, right speech can be no speech at all, such as if you are Trumps advisor, and you know he will fuck up everything, so you tell him nothing.
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Ferdinando


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say no to trumpt
and right wing
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Buster_Brown
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In the big picture we might never disallow a clown the opportunity to trip over his big feet when it comes to putting a spin on the facts to make his actions appear honorable.
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Grapefruit
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redgreenvines said:
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Buster_Brown said: And what is 'Right Speach'?
If slanderous accusations result in a period of advantage, is that not right speech?
If the end result of bloody confrontation a century of peace then is that not Right Action?
We are taught that sacrificing our own futures for the sake of others is honorable. The thief and murderer accompanying Jesus at Golgotha are no less deserving of their rewards by these definitions.
the noble truths are about being, well admirable, noble, you know that being duplicitous is not noble. right speech is never about lying. that's dishonesty.
however, right speech can be no speech at all, such as if you are Trumps advisor, and you know he will fuck up everything, so you tell him nothing.
Perhaps easier to list what wrong speech is that what right speech is. But right speech in certain circumstances may include getting angry at someone. That's one to be careful with though.
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redgreenvines
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yes if you want to drag lists around. list however are always being amended. refined understanding transcends list dependent activity.
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