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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26874724 - 08/11/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope it’s way less than 10% , there are roughly 800,000 officers in this country , that would be 80,000 cops engaging in oppression. That would be or is a huge problem .
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Psilynut2]
#26874743 - 08/11/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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They all engage in that behavior at one point or another even "good cops"
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26874747 - 08/11/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Are you saying that you think that only 10% of cops engage in oppression?
I don't know what the number is. I'm saying it's less than 100%.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26875160 - 08/11/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I don't know what the number is. I'm saying it's less than 100%.
Source or make believe?
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26875197 - 08/11/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oppression is standard operating procedure. I'd be shocked if any cop who has been working for more than a month or two on patrol hasn't oppressed anyone.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Kwyjibo]
#26875260 - 08/11/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I don't know what the number is. I'm saying it's less than 100%.
Source or make believe?
Again, I said "I don't know what the number is" and "I'm saying..." meaning that's my thought on the matter.
Do you really think there's not a single cop in America who doesn't oppress people, out of about roughly 800,000 cops, many of whom are in small towns?
I can't prove it anymore than you can disprove it.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26875271 - 08/11/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, but oppression takes many forms. Pulling someone over and demanding that they state where they're going is oppression. Playing good cop/bad cop by the side of the road is oppression. Holding people while they wait for a drug sniffing dog to come is oppression. Oppression happens all day, every day, dude.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26875279 - 08/11/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Pulling someone over and demanding that they state where they're going is oppression. Playing good cop/bad cop by the side of the road is oppression. Holding people while they wait for a drug sniffing dog to come is oppression. Oppression happens all day, every day, dude.
You should have provided that definition before the poll. I wouldn't have considered that oppressive.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26875295 - 08/11/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it were anyone other than a cop asking, you'd tell them "it's none of your business." Because it's a man with a gun and a badge, representing the authority of the local municipality, it's oppressive.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26875302 - 08/11/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Society empowers cops to do certain things that ordinary citizens can't. I realize you feel things should be different, but right now they're not. 
I don't think acting within current law is oppressive.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26875319 - 08/11/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cops don't have the power to require you to answer any questions. They do it because they know you're afraid to piss them off. So, you answer. That's an abuse of authority. That's oppression. Watch any interrogation video. Cops routinely lie to people in an effort to scare them. That's standard practice. The fact that it's legal doesn't make it any less oppressive. In fact, it makes them an agent of government oppression.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26876050 - 08/11/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cops lie constantly. Anecdotal, but in my early 20s my roommate and I were pulled over and separated. The cop questioned us separately. He went to my friend first, came to me and said my friend told him I had "dope" on me. Fucking outright lie. Told him I didn't repeatedly, he went to my friend and apparently told him that I said HE had "dope" on him! He legit made us spread wide on the side of the road and did a full body pat down. Didnt find shit.
He then claimed he smelled weed in my car, called back up, and he and 2 other cops tore my car apart looking for drugs. They took everything out of my trunk and left it on the side of the road for me to clean up after being let go.
Both my buddy and I were groped in an illegal search and when they couldnt find shit in my car they let us go but he gave me a ticket for speeding even though I wasnt. He was following us for a few miles I think he saw a beater being driven by two young guys and he figured we'd have something.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: natedawgnow]
#26876470 - 08/12/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That happens all the time. When I was a teenager, I was pulled over every week.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26877531 - 08/12/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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Billy Ray said:
You think these people shouldn't have been killed?
Cops should never kill anyone.
So you think we should allow any gang of armed criminals to inflict their will upon the population since the only way to stop them would be to kill them?
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Kizzle]
#26877550 - 08/12/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why do you believe that to be the only way?
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Kizzle]
#26877551 - 08/12/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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We're supposed to stop cops by killing them? They're the armed gang that's shooting civilians.
And any other armed gangs go to jail. Sometimes the cops kill a gang member but most don't even get caught and some do and they go to jail
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26881015 - 08/15/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Society empowers cops to do certain things that ordinary citizens can't. I realize you feel things should be different, but right now they're not. 
I don't think acting within current law is oppressive.
I do.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26881020 - 08/15/20 03:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: That happens all the time. When I was a teenager, I was pulled over every week.
Oh fuck yeah. I was pulled over constantly, but in other ways the cops were OK in the 70's. When they asked you, you told them that you had weed, and then they would have you pour it out in the ditch.
But black people get pulled over and fucked with through middle aged years, and I don't think they let them go.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26881092 - 08/15/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me, it was the 80's.
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Re: Enlil's Attempt to Reach the Truth: Police Enforcement Edition. [Re: Enlil]
#26884859 - 08/17/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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OP, pm me the IP addresses of the 6 users who said “some races are more violent.”
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