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So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? * 1
    #26867900 - 08/07/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So I got a gym membership, trying to get my weight/strength back, maby help with me mentally as well. So I worked out pretty hard Tuesday, and I was still sore last night. I was going to go work out again last night (every other day,) but had to drive somewhere but its like, am I just going to be sore everyday? I have to work and stuff, does the level of how sore you are eventually subside some after you get back into shape?

I still feel it some today, and am going to go tonight and keep this up but damn man. Also, I’m not really sure how I feel about pre workout stuff but what do you guys use for post workout? I figure there’s something better then simply using whey protein but I’m not sure.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 3
    #26867919 - 08/07/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When you first start working out (or you return after a long break) and you go hard, the DOMS can be unbearable the next day. As your body adapts it normalizes and any post-workout soreness you experience becomes relative to the intensity of the workout and your overall fitness.

When gyms around me finally open up and I go back, I imagine I'll feel like I've been hit by a plane after my first workout (and I've been working out, on average, 4 days a week for years). But the gyms have been closed here for months so all of my training has been body weight only.

The most important thinks for regulating DOMS:

- Eat enough protein, fats and carbs
- I like a high carb meal (oatmeal) post workout
- Get enough sleep
- Keep at it, the body will adapt.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26867928 - 08/07/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I made some weed greek yogurt that was so-so, froze the whey and used it in protein shakes for pre and post workout. It was good I made almond milk banana chai smoothies with weed whey thrown in for extra protein.


good stuff. Honestly since the pandemic weed has been my pre, post, and present workout enhancer - more so smokeless forms of it.


Nah you're not gonna be sore everyday forever and your body will adjust, swearsies. If you want to keep making progress, yes you're gonna have to push yourself and you're going to have period of intermittent soreness, but you will get used to it, I promise. And you don't have to go super hard all the time - a sustained approach is key imo. I think exercising is still beneficial even if it's ind of low key, as long as your heart is pumping a bit and your body is moving you're doing good. And that will absolutely help you out mentally. Just stick with it. Give it a month.


I personally wouldn't feel comfortable in a gym at this point in time and just stay home and exercise, but stay safe and keep at it. You will only be glad that you did.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26868018 - 08/07/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Supplements probably won't work.

Try foam rolling and stretching.  A warm bath can also help a bit.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26868022 - 08/07/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It will improve a 1000% once you get a bit of a regular workout going

Personally i like to take a walk after working out to loosen up my back :shrug:


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26868218 - 08/07/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Please stretch 1st before your workouts! I made that mistake when I got a gym membership years ago.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 2
    #26868417 - 08/07/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When you take a long break from the gym then start working out again, you really have to do easy, light exercises or you're gonna wreck yer body. Its happened to me time and time again when I take a long break from weight-lifting.

In essence, you have to acclimate your body back into working-out again. Best advice is just to take it easy until your body recovers.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26868442 - 08/07/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Right after the workout, eat a readily available complete protein in combination with a complex starch. It can be as simple as yoghurt with muesli.

The starch provides steady glucose which takes away incentive to burn the protein as fuel, the glucose will prioritize as a fuel source, so the net result will be optimizing utilization of that protein for repair and growth.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Asante]
    #26868670 - 08/07/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

All these answers are exactly what I needed. I haven’t worked out in a few years, so was thinking I’ll go hard to begin with and seems like that was the wrong move. I’m going to try to state consistent, but not beat myself up. My main priority is eating enough, I might need to do a rough calorie count to make sure I’m actually eating enough.

Thanks for the tips my guys. You always come through. And Asante, I did not know this. Seems logical after you said it though. I’m really trying to stay away from eating meat, so I’m going to experiment with different proteins. I need try different stuff out, it’s tough trying to turn vegetarian as I’m trying to gain weight.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26868706 - 08/07/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Exercise vanity out of your life. Problem solved.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
    #26868766 - 08/07/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

20-30 minutes in the hot tub is my way of avoiding being sore the next day, but YMMV


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26868829 - 08/07/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I’m underweight TBH. I’ll see how hot baths work


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Asante]
    #26869242 - 08/07/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Cryotherapy chairs if your gym has them helps, but DOMs sucks at first, and never really goes away (legs) but you get used to it and it last a shorter period of itme.

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Right after the workout, eat a readily available complete protein in combination with a complex starch. It can be as simple as yoghurt with muesli.

The starch provides steady glucose which takes away incentive to burn the protein as fuel, the glucose will prioritize as a fuel source, so the net result will be optimizing utilization of that protein for repair and growth.




Yes, although a quick absorbing sugar is better post work out as you need a glycemic spike to transport amino acids into cells.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Ice9]
    #26869304 - 08/07/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I have a home gym that I've been putting together on and off for weeks. Now that The Rona finally took ma jerb, I'll have plenty of time to finish it and use it.

I'm missing 14 bushings, but I bought a nylon rod on Amazon that I'm going to use to make replacements. The manufacturer's customer service is shut down because The Rona as well, or I would have just called them and had them send them to me.

Anyway, I figure I got about 6 months of retirement to look for before I go back to work. What can an average male accomplish in 6 months of pumping concrete encased in plastic? How buff should I expect to be?


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26869691 - 08/08/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I have a home gym that I've been putting together on and off for weeks. Now that The Rona finally took ma jerb, I'll have plenty of time to finish it and use it.

I'm missing 14 bushings, but I bought a nylon rod on Amazon that I'm going to use to make replacements. The manufacturer's customer service is shut down because The Rona as well, or I would have just called them and had them send them to me.

Anyway, I figure I got about 6 months of retirement to look for before I go back to work. What can an average male accomplish in 6 months of pumping concrete encased in plastic? How buff should I expect to be?




With proper diet and nutritional timing(join a body builders board they alll sorts of newbie plans including food intake).

If you dont get an injury expect total transformation of body.  I went from 225 all fat to 180 and 15% fat in 6 months, people who hadn't seen me in a while where shocked how ripped I was.  Put on about 40lbs of muscle (it goes fast at first than plateaus) plus all the fat lost, I felt great.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Ice9]
    #26870019 - 08/08/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I added a few adjustable dumbells and weights to my home collection during the lockdown. I had a pretty decent schedule going.

Been going to the gym for the first time since March this last week. Still had my results in the Strong app.

Most exercises I was actually stronger now than when everything closed for the lockdown. Home fitness does seem to work


For me starting to note down my results was a gamechanger

I also recommend watching Ath-leans youtube channel, especially the one about "why 12 reps are killing your gains"


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26870270 - 08/08/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Chloe ting or ymca vids


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26870390 - 08/08/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just keep working out every day, eventually youll stop being so sore all the time


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26870430 - 08/08/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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CatsLoveHouseMusic said:. My main priority is eating enough, I might need to do a rough calorie count to make sure I’m actually eating enough.
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Calories. Don’t bother counting, says David well sculpted weight trainer. He said the ratio of fats to carbs to protein what you need worry about.

As I understand, you feed yourself to give organs nutrients to make clean blood. You work out and hydrate self to get that blood to muscles. Your organs only can hold so much of blood cycling but muscles can hold store the built blood.

You workout, you tear muscles. That blood will get back to blood stream And flush out through kidneys to bladder if not use high glycemic carb and protein afterwards to take that highly nutrient rich blood and pack back to torn muscle as is good blood.

Think the muscles as rubber bands. As pull rubber band tight to about breaking you see holes in band as stretching to tear. The idea is to use blood to patch and build those tears which makes more density to rubberband.

I’m 6’5” 222lbs.  Eating 10g fat 30g protein and forty grams carbs. Now seeing greater results to workout routine. Mostly been thin. Just recently been asking trainer advice. He weighs his food to hit target number of protein fats and carbs. I do too!  Eating every three to three and half hours. Drinking plenty water. 

DO ASK THOSE AT THE GYM!  people there who workout and are in good health will share kind words of well being!  I talk to everyone for it is a place where to make all feel very welcomed to be.  ASK questions. Don’t get discouraged if one not too kind or doesn’t provide good feedback. Few ever not speak kindly back. As with question best to understand question asked as relevant to yourself so the one can answer.

Ive been to gyms on and off for years. Now staying on an on for helps feel well, healthy as if making use of all the food I eat, not making use of all the energy we consume.  One thing that upset me is the trainers will watch you wear yourself out and let you stay thin with out asking of goals and giving tips to such. Took me years and still learning as go, but I ask them!  They sit behind computer, but hey will answer!

Your diet will have to change for results. You’ll be amazed and feel great for yourself as you do follow suit to what is needed to get towards results you desire.  Really, do check nutrition labels. A basic ham sandwich with mustard and mayaonaise is not beneficial to muscle growth. Proportions are wrong. Refined sugars don’t bother. Chicken and rice and greens. Chicken and rice and greens.

Fitness Trainer, David, built fellow, says, ‘people have a weird romance to food.’  I see how he says that. 


Lots to learn as go and grow in life. Learning of healthy body, mind and soul of the best to seek for the clues to answers and applicability are of the funnest venture, because the direct relate and have instant karma like effects to you!

Oh! And don’t follow just one workout routine. Use online routines and different ones. Mixes it up.  I pick one muscle area to concentrate on. Arms. Legs. Shoulders. Chest. Stomach. And do fifteen minutes a cardio and fifteen minutes after. Work up a sweat and keep it going through. Works for me.  Find what works for you

Most importantly, be kind, friendly and courteous to those near you. And BREATHE!!!!


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Edited by WhoManBeing (08/08/20 06:24 PM)


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #26870803 - 08/08/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for all the help guys, and thanks for this descriptive answer. I appreciate you putting the effort into your comment man. What do you use for the “high glycemic carb and proteins?” Ive had a couple people say this already so it must be pretty important. I made an effort today to eat more than usual.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26870852 - 08/09/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

For “high glycemic carb and proteins” I'll probably just be using chocolate (skim) milk with maybe a scoop of protein powder.

High glycemic carbs are simple carbs like white bread, white rice, regular potatoes (not sweet potatoes), corn/corn meal/corn bread/corn grits, or table sugar/syrup, etc.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #26870885 - 08/09/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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CatsLoveHouseMusic said:. My main priority is eating enough, I might need to do a rough calorie count to make sure I’m actually eating enough.
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Calories. Don’t bother counting, says David well sculpted weight trainer. He said the ratio of fats to carbs to protein what you need worry about.

As I understand, you feed yourself to give organs nutrients to make clean blood. You work out and hydrate self to get that blood to muscles. Your organs only can hold so much of blood cycling but muscles can hold store the built blood.

You workout, you tear muscles. That blood will get back to blood stream And flush out through kidneys to bladder if not use high glycemic carb and protein afterwards to take that highly nutrient rich blood and pack back to torn muscle as is good blood.

Think the muscles as rubber bands. As pull rubber band tight to about breaking you see holes in band as stretching to tear. The idea is to use blood to patch and build those tears which makes more density to rubberband.

I’m 6’5” 222lbs.  Eating 10g fat 30g protein and forty grams carbs. Now seeing greater results to workout routine. Mostly been thin. Just recently been asking trainer advice. He weighs his food to hit target number of protein fats and carbs. I do too!  Eating every three to three and half hours. Drinking plenty water. 

DO ASK THOSE AT THE GYM!  people there who workout and are in good health will share kind words of well being!  I talk to everyone for it is a place where to make all feel very welcomed to be.  ASK questions. Don’t get discouraged if one not too kind or doesn’t provide good feedback. Few ever not speak kindly back. As with question best to understand question asked as relevant to yourself so the one can answer.

Ive been to gyms on and off for years. Now staying on an on for helps feel well, healthy as if making use of all the food I eat, not making use of all the energy we consume.  One thing that upset me is the trainers will watch you wear yourself out and let you stay thin with out asking of goals and giving tips to such. Took me years and still learning as go, but I ask them!  They sit behind computer, but hey will answer!

Your diet will have to change for results. You’ll be amazed and feel great for yourself as you do follow suit to what is needed to get towards results you desire.  Really, do check nutrition labels. A basic ham sandwich with mustard and mayaonaise is not beneficial to muscle growth. Proportions are wrong. Refined sugars don’t bother. Chicken and rice and greens. Chicken and rice and greens.

Fitness Trainer, David, built fellow, says, ‘people have a weird romance to food.’  I see how he says that. 


Lots to learn as go and grow in life. Learning of healthy body, mind and soul of the best to seek for the clues to answers and applicability are of the funnest venture, because the direct relate and have instant karma like effects to you!

Oh! And don’t follow just one workout routine. Use online routines and different ones. Mixes it up.  I pick one muscle area to concentrate on. Arms. Legs. Shoulders. Chest. Stomach. And do fifteen minutes a cardio and fifteen minutes after. Work up a sweat and keep it going through. Works for me.  Find what works for you

Most importantly, be kind, friendly and courteous to those near you. And BREATHE!!!!




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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26870925 - 08/09/20 03:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Are you stretching, and doing warmups and cooldowns before and after your workout?

Are you using the foam rollers afterwards?


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26870929 - 08/09/20 03:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I stretch, play basketball for about 45/60min and then work out, I started taking it easier since I just started working out again and I don’t feel as sore. Now like you mentioned, I need to get some kind of rhythm going, regarding what machines/muscles I’m working out.

And regarding the glycemic situation. Potatoes are a staple in what I’m eating lately so that will work out good. I just can’t get over how interesting/important it is to eat correctly, not just the amount, but what you eat... Awesome awesome.


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    #26872075 - 08/09/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Potato I eat for breakfast.

After workout meal, I do white rice and protein. At 220lbs, I try to eat 200g cooked rice and do protein 30g as with cup of flax milk with 22G protein mix.

What’s your diet like?

I eat chicken w/peanut butter sauce I put together, rice/noodles,  and greens salad; chard, spinach, arugula, much of meal for the day at home.  Counting carbs, fats and proteins all along.

After eating this diet and seeing change, I am starting to see some good changes and also understand what to look for in other foods.  Peaceing together well balanced foods is has been fun.

Oh! Was reading of xylitol on .gov website with studies proven well health benefits from teeth to hair to skin to bone mass. One prior action of xylitol is it being a non digestible carb. A sweetener for foods but not sugar turning instant fat.  This xylitol gets to colon where ferments and aids many of things, as prebiotic full apple cider vinager does too!  So, to sweeten with xylitol cuts refined sugars and provides well health.


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    #26872626 - 08/10/20 01:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You are on the right track.  A few things I've figured out over years of exercising:

- Don't go too hard when starting out or getting back into training. Better to a light workout regularly than overdo it and injure yourself, or put your self off.

- What you eat is important. Most of us will have to count calories and macro splits if we want to get the significant change you see in "before" and "after" type pics.

- Ultimately, if you want to get better you will need to improve whatever metric you are measuring. If you are running, you need to get faster over time.  If you are doing weights, you need to be lifting. If your metrics are the same this year as they were last year, you won't improve. 

- To achieve this you need to keep records. I'm always mystified at the number of people at the gym wandering around doing random exercises! Just use a notepad on your phone. Make a list of exercises, note your reps and weights. Do them till they become easy, then step up a rep or a weight.

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    #27070541 - 12/03/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I started taking dietary supplements and peptides and don't really know much about them. My friends recommended these peptides to me, because my testosterone level is low, and I would not like to undergo therapy and take hormones. And this peptide has been studied as an alternative to such therapies. This way I increase efficiency, muscle mass and lose weight faster when I work out in the gym. Finally, I was convinced by the argument about studies that said that when using this peptide, it does not damage my internal organs. So why don't they work? Everything looks believable.


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    #27070578 - 12/03/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You gotta boof them for best results

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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #27070612 - 12/03/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Cardio vascular health should be the goal of working out. Weight loss should be the goal of a reduced calorie diet. Do not get caught up in the idea of pre or post work our suplements, they are just added calories. People protein load and piss it down the toilet or wonder why they keep gaining weight even though they work out.

Soreness is pretty unavoidable when you start back up or switch it up. It is a good thing, a sign of muscles regrowing. When you are back into the swing of things be worried about excessive soreness.


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    #27071006 - 12/04/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What could excessive soreness mean? And fuck steroids (guy above)


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    #27071008 - 12/04/20 12:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Lol another workout thread? Why do they keep disappearing?! I swear I posted a split routine for starters and it disappeared!

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    #27071014 - 12/04/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I need you in my life, I need both of those....lol. Halp


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    #27071024 - 12/04/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

PM me and I'll help you specifically, I'm tired of posting insight that people just ignore then keep making threads around LOL.

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    #27071233 - 12/04/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Caffeine has been clinically proven to help quell DOMS. Don't forget to drink plenty of water and move around a bit.


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    #27071457 - 12/04/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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    #27071615 - 12/04/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

If you have access to a sauna use it after the work out

As ive gotten older and having always been active and exercising, i view it as a marathon man

Dont overdue it

Go slow and get in the groove of things

Starting with calisthenics vs going straight to weights can help

You can get in excellent shape with calisthenics alone

Diet is huge. Eat good clean food. Get enough vitamins and nutrients. Stick with whole foods. Fruit and veggie and rice and protein, shit like that

Get good rest

Listen to your body bro

Watch some videos of joe rogan talking to people on different thoughts and idea related to fitness

For instance intermittent fasting
One video talks about the benefit of stopping before exhausted. For example, over a year, you get more out of it if you do 7 pull ups two days in a row vs doing 11 pull ups one day and are too tired to exercise the next day. Thats just a rough example but you get the idea

I mean exercise is just part of life and results are not overnight

Just include it in a consistent way and you will see progress.

It does depend on your goals as well

Hope this helps a bit

Consistency... Thats what it comes down

Get consistent and you can get amazing results without killing yourself and having no energy for life

Develop a good workout for your needs.

I use to do full body calisthenic workout 2-3 days a week and threw in a heavy weight exercise on friday

But i got tired of killing myself man. Outside of the gym i was already very active

Just stay consistent and exercise at least 3 days a week, educate yourself on a proper diet, get good sleep

Read and meditate and stretch a lot

Almost forgot about that

I use to stretch a lot mostly after my workout. My body didnt need it before. Just little shit in between exercises.

Stretch stretch stretch

Goes a long way.. Use to spend a solid 30 minutes or more stretching alone after my workout..

Had a whole process for it hitting every area of my body. Its fuckong great. Then the sauna. Fuck i miss that shit


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    #27072835 - 12/05/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Gallon of milk a day




As a professional, I advise against this strategy, as there are more optimal ways to achieve the same ends with less GI fuckery/inflammation.


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    #27072838 - 12/05/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not a professional but I'd say,
Learn to lovvve being sore. It feels gooood. It's your body reminding you of how many muscles you have, and how excited they are to be alive.


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    #27072841 - 12/05/20 01:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing wrong with being sore, it's a reminder you pushed progressive overload (the goal) sufficiently!

Roll, massage, stretch that shit on off days and feel the lactic acid orgasm LOL.


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    #27072926 - 12/05/20 04:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Theres definitely levels to being sore.

Im not going to say youre wrong, to each their own.

But if youre so sore you cant work out then you need more time to recover.

And if you dont push yourself that hars and go to say 70% vs 100%, you can workout more often, feel better, and over the course of a year youre overall output will be far greater.

But yeah, going to the extreme is the typical and more common belief.

I just personally dont adhere to it and find it not as useful after hearing some professionals speak about. It makes sense.

70% 5 days a week > 100% 3 days a week

And i personally found it better to my overall level of productivity and happiness in life.

Being sore all the time to that degree is a waste of time imo.

But again, to each their own.

Theres no wrong way to it if youre exercising properly.

Be consistent, grt a baseline, then move forward and increase.

Good luck op, you dont have to be sore all the time or be so sore you csnt exercise to see gains and improvement.

But again, thats just me, and that isnt exactly the typical belief when it comes to working out.

People are all about pushing to the extreme but i use to have those same people ask me about how im so cut.


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    #27072941 - 12/05/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Theres definitely levels to being sore.

Im not going to say youre wrong, to each their own.

But if youre so sore you cant work out then you need more time to recover.

And if you dont push yourself that hars and go to say 70% vs 100%, you can workout more often, feel better, and over the course of a year youre overall output will be far greater.

But yeah, going to the extreme is the typical and more common belief.

I just personally dont adhere to it and find it not as useful after hearing some professionals speak about. It makes sense.

70% 5 days a week > 100% 3 days a week

And i personally found it better to my overall level of productivity and happiness in life.

Being sore all the time to that degree is a waste of time imo.

But again, to each their own.

Theres no wrong way to it if youre exercising properly.

Be consistent, grt a baseline, then move forward and increase.

Good luck op, you dont have to be sore all the time or be so sore you csnt exercise to see gains and improvement.

But again, thats just me, and that isnt exactly the typical belief when it comes to working out.

People are all about pushing to the extreme but i use to have those same people ask me about how im so cut.




What you said here is correct I wouldn't argue that, nor was I insinuating some sort of elitist/absolutist position. Everything you said here checks all the boxes for fairly ideal training. My thing is I only train to the degree I can actually recover from, and I instruct my clients in the same manner. As you said, the average person benefits more from a moderate intensity spread between 4-6 days a week. I've never, ever, EVER trained through muscle soreness, and I'm also one of the very few people I personally know that has never had an injury from working out. You shouldn't be getting hurt lifting this is a point I will argue. It's never worth the set backs and potential chronic issues I don't give a fuck if you're training for a competition or pushing personal goals. It's foolish and the fitness industry is packed with at-all-costs bullshit that gives a very counterproductive image for someone looking to stay healthy longterm.


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    #27072946 - 12/05/20 05:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:raisemyglass:

Not directed entirely at you, just some of the responses, if you read op, he says hes sore as fuck not knowing if its normal and saying he has work and other shit going on in his life

I just wanted to make sure he knew he doesnt need to feel that way

It is typical to be sore as fuck if you havent worked out in a while and over do it

Probably a lot of us have been there

So i just wanted to offer what i hoped was some decent advice to help

You mentioned you do this for a living i thought so i imagine you know what youre doing and what youre talking about

But a lot of people who dont, or who think they know, throw out their 2 cents

And op needed some helpful advice :lol:

Hes basicslly asking what to do when he feels like that and i say rest up and then go back in and dont over do it

Id also highly recommend calisthenics if you are just starting out and you dont have that base strength

Its easier on your body while working more muscle groups

Use to see these sticks at the gym trying to lift and its like dude you arent even ready

But idk man i guess my methods are just that, my methods, but theres also more ways to do this shit

I was always about health and overall fitness. I wanted to be sculpted and not necessarily be the guy who looks fat but can bench 300lb

All about your goals and shit and what you value

My methods arent great for building thst high level of strength required to lift heavy

So first off op needs to have some clearlt defined personal goals for what he hopes to achieve in order to reach them

And understand how different methods are better equipped to reach those different goals, ya know?

I almost think i shoulda got into training people about diet and exercise and holistic health instead of what im doing now ..


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27072949 - 12/05/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What I tell friends who have hard physical jobs:  eat proteinaceous snacks during the day and especially a easily digestible one right before bed, so your body has the building blocks to repair itself, a process which especially occurs while you sleep.


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    #27095944 - 12/18/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

everything everyone else said plus Essential Amino Acids (EAA) from bulksupplements or dpsnutrition.net:thumbup:


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    #27224122 - 02/24/21 02:13 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

lots of good info in this thread! Do y'all have any input on just "freestyling" your calisthenics without designated body part days?

I don't necessarily mean spot reduction but like if you've been sitting around not standing much that day- then do something focusing on legs that afternoon, am I on the right track?

I am very nervous about erroneously doing "bad" exercise!


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    #27224160 - 02/24/21 02:38 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Do what feels right. If it hurts, stop.


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    #27224233 - 02/24/21 03:19 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I mean you want it to hurt some like in a certain way right?
Like youre supposed to feel a burn sort of right?

I like to just get down square up and do the most perfect pushups I can  Even if I can only do 2, it feels so good feeling my muscles line up and resist/push the weight back.

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    #27224254 - 02/24/21 03:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Just lift heavy


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    #27224261 - 02/24/21 03:33 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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bro I'm going to get dressed up and drive 10 miles to my gym to lift 250lb twice and then go home.


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    #27224265 - 02/24/21 03:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I dunno about hurt.
It's like stretching, there is a point at which you're tight and its sort of uncomfortable to push against, but as the tension releases it feels better.


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    #27224305 - 02/24/21 04:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

So it’s already been said in great detail but...
1) Just start, don’t start hard
2) establish a routine, know when you go
3) build up to longer & harder work outs
4) always, ALWAYS, stretch, warm up, cool down, and stretch again.


I like to do yoga for a stretch, warm up & cool down.
  I like to do a mix of kettlebells, free weights and calisthenics and focus on muscle groups
Day 1: arms/chest
Day2: back/core
Day 3: legs
Day 4: working rest (yoga, walk, push ups, etc, no weights)


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    #27224357 - 02/24/21 04:22 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

ohhh, I love me some heavy lifting!:smirk:


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    #27224366 - 02/24/21 04:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

:ohyeah:


I’m 40 so I don’t go too heavy anymore but yeah it feels ducking great doesn’t it!
  I wish I had discovered I enjoyed lifting heavy shit when I was a teen instead of 33


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    #27225129 - 02/25/21 01:17 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think anyone has mentioned Glutamine yet. It's excellent for assisting in post workout recovery.


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    #27225572 - 02/25/21 09:05 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't think anyone has mentioned Glutamine yet. It's excellent for assisting in post workout recovery.



great call.

What do yall think about creatine?


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    #27225574 - 02/25/21 09:06 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

It's too affordable to not take it.


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    #27225768 - 02/25/21 11:22 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
I don't think anyone has mentioned Glutamine yet. It's excellent for assisting in post workout recovery.



great call.

What do yall think about creatine?




Creatine is legit-- for those that respond to it. As stated above, it is too cheap not to try. You'll know within 7-10 days whether you are a responder. You'll feel swollen and get super crazy pumps where your muscles stay turgid for 30 mins or more. It's actually kind of crazy. My strength generally increases 4-8% when I am using creatine. The swelling can be annoying/unsightly, but I find that it generally dissipates after the first 30-60 days. You don't really need to cycle it either, just make sure to drink lots of water.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: pslyke]
    #27225926 - 02/25/21 12:52 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

That's awesome. I'll mix it in with my whey and kratom. What could possibly go wrong.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #27226014 - 02/25/21 02:06 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Obvious answers but rest and hydration!

Supplements can be utilized with great success but "simple" things like proper rest hydration and diet go a very long way with regard to any fitness regimen

Good on ya for starting some good habits, hope for the best


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27466458 - 09/13/21 05:48 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I had the same problem when I was overweight. My legs were the most to suffer. I can't describe the pain and soreness that I felt. It was awful. I contacted a nutritionist, and she advised me to follow pre-workout and post-workout regimens. I am not an expert, so I don't guarantee anything, but what worked for me is consuming lots of protein before and after my workout and consuming high-quality fitness supplements from rats.army that helped me recover and get that "high energy." I can't recommend anything specific for supplements since each body is different, and you have to do your research.


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: raciohurg]
    #27466473 - 09/13/21 06:21 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

What a strange first post.

Dry muscle? What does that mean?


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Re: So I started working out, sore as shit. Post workout regiments? [Re: Tight Lunchbox]
    #27466592 - 09/13/21 08:45 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Probably no steroids or supplements and just hard "dry" muscle naturally.


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