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"It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes away." * 5
    #26867666 - 08/07/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Alcohol.

What a stupid no good drug it is. It doesn't even feel good, it feels like what it does, a general dysregulation of the nervous system because you drank an organic solvent.

My father and brother love their wines, too much. My mother loved her Port, too much.

I am drug sophisticated. I can list 10 drugs off the top of my head that feel LOTS better than alcohol.

I can list at least 5 drugs that I was addicted to and QUIT and yet everybody keeps on glued to their bottle all their lives.

It ruins so many lives and its such a shit drug.

Its a form of food poisoning. The juice has gone off and you still drink it.

Give me a quarter dose of shrooms and I pun and giggle like a nutter for a few hours.

Split an E with me, ok.

But eeeeeewcohol..

Sweating like a pig
heving your brain go on screensaver
Incoordination
DYSPHORIA
Socially withdrawn, not much to say
Dulled wits
a sense of "me Orc did dumbie." for having drank it

Your Johnny Walker can take a hike!





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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Asante]
    #26867674 - 08/07/20 05:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not much for getting drunk, but think alcohol works well for nerve pain. If you distill your own alcohol it's still poison but without additives. I would likely have a snip of shine over a puff of pod for pain. If you crack a tooth swish some shine and numb your gumb. I guess everything has a place, time, and amount that will provide relief or pain, good and bad times, just depends your perspective and control of compulsion, :wink: my two cents are only worth a penny, cheers


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Snaggletoots]
    #26867677 - 08/07/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Snaggletoots said:
I'm not much for getting drunk, but think alcohol works well for nerve pain.





This is how a terminally ill friend uses it. I'm compassionate about that but the stuff is wasted on me.

I mean if you need your nervous system dysregulated because of pain its just the ticket :frown:


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Asante]
    #26867682 - 08/07/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with you completely on that :smile:


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Snaggletoots] * 1
    #26867706 - 08/07/20 06:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Alcoholics tend to get nasty over time too, thanks to the formaldehyde poisoning of their brain I suspect. And every legit weed smoker knows, nobody will rat you out faster than a mean drunk, because in spite of being a toothless degenerate alcoholic who sits in their own filth because fuck trying to make it to the toilet when you have this couch right here, at least they're not a damn druggie.

I also like the 20 minute delay in processing that keeps them from ever saying anything at the appropriate time. Alcoholics will stare off into space while you have a conversation with someone else, then twist their brow in concentration, then their eyes light up with the spark of realization and enlightenment, and they will suddenly interrupt and make the most basic of statements as if they've just found the Grand Unified Theory, and it'll be related to something you aren't even talking about anymore and have not been for 20 minutes. Often, they'll point at you with a finger from their drinking hand as they do it, too. The pointing is designed, I think, to reinforce the fact that they're thinking on another level, and you ought to accept that rather than consider arguing.

Over 70% of police calls for domestic violence involve alcohol nationally, and it's closer to 100% in many communities. I can't recall ever being so high I thought my wife needed beaten.

The fact that alcohol is legal and we've had to fight this long, this hard for the right to use marijuana recreationally and for medicinal purposes is one of the most convincing arguments for an overarching conspiracy to make the plebes nothing but horsepower for the elites' machine I can think of. Little is more morally outraging to me than listening to some drunktard politician discuss their opinions on my right to access a plant that does so little harm in comparison to their addiction.

I am 100% with you on this Asante.


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Snaggletoots]
    #26867707 - 08/07/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think alcohol is awesome. Especially craft beer and red wine. Spirits are great to have on hand because they can do more than just get you feeling the Holy Spirit within minutes.

It will never go away though. Its here to stay.

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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #26867717 - 08/07/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I know a whole lot of jolly drunks, who are definitely not degenerates, or filthy for that matter. Everything isn't cast the same.

Laughing @shiithead I love my beer drinking friends and a little wine never hurts either :wink:


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Asante]
    #26867719 - 08/07/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ive had good experiences but for me the dehydration and stomach weirdness arent worth it.

It tastes gross and makes you pee alot.

I will stick with the weed.


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #26867732 - 08/07/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

you need to loosen some teeth with meth, then wash em out with alcohol. :crazybeard:


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26867744 - 08/07/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Laughing a little bit :smile:.

It's ok to use this, but you're bad to use that!

Mine is better then yours just wait my police force will make you comply. :wink:


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: The Mycologist] * 2
    #26867756 - 08/07/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Alcohol is best enjoyed in low dosages a few times a year. Like a beer or two. At that point it feels bubbly and warm and social without dragging you down or giving you a hangover. You drink, it's over in a few hours, you move on with your life. Like a drug is meant to be treated. Lately I've only been buying it so the wife can wind down after a trip and get to sleep at a decent hour, like a benzo. She's not as much of a night owl as I am.

Alcohol, like opiates, I just don't find all that enjoyable with anything more than 0 tolerance. But it can be nice on a hot day. I have a soft spot for beer and rum. Would I pick countless other substances though? Fuck yeah. Unfortunately they're not all easily available or accessible or as easily hidden as a lifestyle. People get away with drinking every day. But I also think it's that ability and that lack of satisfaction that keeps people coming back for more, like a cigarette.

As an example, I love tripping out. I really do. I commune with myself and then I commune with God. In very literal senses. The amount that these substances guide and aid me in the quest called life is unfathomable, particularly when compared to something as ego-driven and sinister as alcohol. Yet I'm happy, although anxious, to wait the time that it needs to do what will be done. If I have alcohol in the fridge I'll drink more the next day as an uncontrolled impulse and end up hating myself for it. With something like mushrooms I might hate myself in the moment(Why do I keep doing this to myself?:lol:) but even if I don't realize some greater clarity from the experience that afterglow will take care of you. Almost like a whole other experience. It's like straight up rock-climbing a mountain and trying not to shit your pants at the glaring heights, only to reach the top in all its majesty and eventually float down to the bottom like a feather in the wind with all the time in the world to soak up the view :manofapproval:


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes away." [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26867757 - 08/07/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Agreed. I feel like a different person since quitting. I feel healthier, more energetic, happier and much more. And I wasn't even a heavy drinker.

I personally think alcohol is a poison that we have been indoctrinated to think is a necessary part of our lives (I mean look at all the alcohol commercials and how good looking everyone is in those commercials and how they are always having loads of fun and don't seem the least bit inebriated). When in reality, alcohol has many sides and a lot of them are very ugly.

At the same time, I would never impose my beliefs on others. If they are drinking, and not causing harm to anyone else, let them have at it. I see no reason to remove personal choice from our lives, even if the choices we make are bad for us. Obviously I think there should be heavy consequences if you're drinking and running people over. But if you're getting drunk in your own home and causing no harm to anyone, party on.

I generally believe Graham Hancock's take where he claims:

"Alcohol, the most boring of drugs,".


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Snaggletoots] * 1
    #26867780 - 08/07/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That's like saying, "It's funny that you think it is okay to have dinner, but not okay to stab yourself with your steak knife."

As I said, alcohol does not bind to brain receptors. It is not a drug. It is a poison you ingest to experience the early stages of death by poisoning. It is doing direct and measurable harm to your body. THC binds to receptor sites in your brain and modifies the rates of release and reuptake of your body's naturally occurring neurotransmitters, modifying how your body does what it was already doing as opposed to causing it to do something it would never normally do.

I'm not making moral judgments when I say poisoning yourself to get high is dumb.


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Srirachi]
    #26867797 - 08/07/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Um well alcohol can be lots of things look at this.
https://www.healthline.com/health/auto-brewery-syndrome
Nothing is black and white except black and white but then we have shades :wink: Saying one synthetic or natural drug is better then a distilled or fermented beverage, is okay, but so is mutilation of children's sex organs by most of the world's standards. Why would anyone do that?
Edit-you know that's like saying :wink:


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Srirachi]
    #26867806 - 08/07/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Srirachi said:
Alcoholics tend to get nasty over time too, thanks to the formaldehyde poisoning of their brain I suspect. And every legit weed smoker knows, nobody will rat you out faster than a mean drunk, because in spite of being a toothless degenerate alcoholic who sits in their own filth because fuck trying to make it to the toilet when you have this couch right here, at least they're not a damn druggie.

I also like the 20 minute delay in processing that keeps them from ever saying anything at the appropriate time. Alcoholics will stare off into space while you have a conversation with someone else, then twist their brow in concentration, then their eyes light up with the spark of realization and enlightenment, and they will suddenly interrupt and make the most basic of statements as if they've just found the Grand Unified Theory, and it'll be related to something you aren't even talking about anymore and have not been for 20 minutes. Often, they'll point at you with a finger from their drinking hand as they do it, too. The pointing is designed, I think, to reinforce the fact that they're thinking on another level, and you ought to accept that rather than consider arguing.

Over 70% of police calls for domestic violence involve alcohol nationally, and it's closer to 100% in many communities. I can't recall ever being so high I thought my wife needed beaten.

The fact that alcohol is legal and we've had to fight this long, this hard for the right to use marijuana recreationally and for medicinal purposes is one of the most convincing arguments for an overarching conspiracy to make the plebes nothing but horsepower for the elites' machine I can think of. Little is more morally outraging to me than listening to some drunktard politician discuss their opinions on my right to access a plant that does so little harm in comparison to their addiction.

I am 100% with you on this Asante.



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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Snaggletoots]
    #26867870 - 08/07/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see your point. Alcohol is a byproduct of fermentation. Nothing changes just because it occurs in one vessel versus another. What are you saying, that because a few people have a medical condition, that alcoholism is a virtuous and natural condition?


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #26867903 - 08/07/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm saying blanket generalizations can be very narrow minded.


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    #26867925 - 08/07/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I happen to love alcohol.

To each his own Asante.  Stop shitting on other people's parties.


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    #26867965 - 08/07/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You love alcohol. I'm shitting on alcoholism. If you love chemical dependency you are really not even worthy of my shit being on your party :lol:

Also, generalizations are always wrong.


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Re: "It makes me retarded and when I'm retarded I wanna be alone. I actually feel better and better now that it goes awa... [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #26867980 - 08/07/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Laughing :smile:


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