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Artemisia_Ale
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Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania
#26867296 - 08/06/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Habitat: On top of a hill, in a mildly wooded area. Growing directly on a bed of dead deciduous leaves/branches
Gills: Light brown gills, attached at stem and edge of cap (as shown)
Stem: 2.5 in. Hollow grey/blue fibrous stem with a few yellow/brown fibers inside. Stem bruises dark blue after a couple minutes.
Cap: Diameter approx. 1 inch, light brown with a darker spot on top. Dark (almost black) ring around edge. Cap has some slight bluing as well.
Spore print color: Hasn't dropped many yet, looking definitely dark. Possibly purple or brown
Bruising: The nicest blue I've seen on any wild one so far.
Other information: Scent-smells like fungus. Nothing too pronounced, almost like chlorine but not.





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Allium
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Artemisia_Ale]
#26867331 - 08/06/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn! ovoids this late!
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Allium
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Allium]
#26867335 - 08/06/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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psilocybe ovoideocystidiata to be exact, my bad
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Allium]
#26867367 - 08/06/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought so! Makes me wish I had found more than 2... Went through hell for em!
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Artemisia_Ale]
#26867434 - 08/06/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, I'm sure that those aren't the only two out there
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Artemisia_Ale
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Allium]
#26867449 - 08/06/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well thanks, I'll be sure to post more if I find them
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Artemisia_Ale]
#26867469 - 08/06/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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where are you, general location?
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Doc9151]
#26867513 - 08/06/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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On the line between Crawford and Venango counties in Northwestern Pennsylvania
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Artemisia_Ale
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Artemisia_Ale]
#26867548 - 08/07/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are we sure these aren't p. caerulipes? They resemble the bluefoot a bit more than ovoids to me, but I'm a novice at this. Also I think I'm too late for the spores... there were barely any left, but I'm fairly certain it's a dark purple/brown.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Artemisia_Ale]
#26867637 - 08/07/20 04:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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These are definitely P. caerulipes. Nice finds! The veil remnants on young caps are diagnostic. You must've been lucky and got some of the Isaias rainfall. My area got completely blue-balled. Still dry as hell!
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: tak18]
#26867692 - 08/07/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You know I thought that they didn't quite look like ovoids but, P. caerulipes is so rare that I failed to mention that it could be that as well.
Are the two related? Because they look so similar in appearance.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Allium]
#26873774 - 08/10/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Allium said: Are the two related? Because they look so similar in appearance.
I only know the two are related in that they belong to the same genus. As far as clades and genealogy are concerned, I have no clue how closely-related they are. I think P. quebecensis is more similar in appearance/season to caerulipes than caerulipes is to ovoideocystidiata.
OP you have the first reported caerulipes find of the year, feel free to kick off the 2020 official thread!
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: tak18]
#26875842 - 08/11/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is probably Psilocybe cearulipes based on size and location
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Doc9151]
#26876531 - 08/12/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn, you beat me to the chase this year. I'm definitely going to look for these on the next rainfall. It seems like they often grow on slopes and hills in the woods. I know you have experience with these mushrooms Tak, have you noticed this too?
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Moria841]
#26876597 - 08/12/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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the last photo matches in the Seek app to Psilocybe.
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Artemisia_Ale
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: tak18]
#26876620 - 08/12/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Next rainfall I'm going back up there... been pretty dry the past few days
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Artemisia_Ale]
#26876862 - 08/12/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome find!!
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Zifozonke]
#26877174 - 08/12/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree with P. caerulipes. Doesn't look like ovoid to me. Nice find.
My advice is to take spore prints and share on marketplace
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: leschampignons]
#26881101 - 08/15/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great find! I've been searching my usual spots for caerulipes with no luck here in Warren county PA. Been dry. I expect we'll have a flush this week if we get rain today.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Subfinder]
#26881127 - 08/15/20 06:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don’t think these are ovoids either.. I agree with doc.. it could be P cearulipes What a sweet find
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Doc9151]
#26881131 - 08/15/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Doc9151 said: This is probably Psilocybe cearulipes based on size and location
Agreed
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Moria841]
#26881196 - 08/15/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moria841 said: Damn, you beat me to the chase this year. I'm definitely going to look for these on the next rainfall. It seems like they often grow on slopes and hills in the woods. I know you have experience with these mushrooms Tak, have you noticed this too?
I was asked this question last year and I can't say for certain yet. It makes sense to say that they are more prevalent on slopes/hills considering a driving force of mushroom propagation is wind. Spores will travel far if they begin high on the slope with winds blowing down or across.
There's a spot in the mountains I discovered by the end of the season last year (pic below). I plan to attack this location at season peak to help answer this. I went scouting there other day, still too dry for anything but great exercise! The picture really doesn't do the true slope justice but maybe the pistol-butt trees help portray that. My legs were beat.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: tak18]
#26883825 - 08/16/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi very nice find Ale. I have a question for Tak and those hunters who have been hunting the blue foot for a couple years. Do they can grow on the exact same log for many years? Or the exact location?
I found more than a hundred last year, the 5 september in Québec. Im planning on hunting the exact same spot real soon. Just curious to know about your past experiences. Thank you.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Quebecybin]
#26884378 - 08/17/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hoping to get my fingers covered in these spores this year. This species has eluded me for too long. I feel like I'm hunting the right habitat so maybe my timing has just been off. The grow under beech and hemlock from what I've read on here.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Quebecybin]
#26885574 - 08/17/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quebecybin said: Hi very nice find Ale. I have a question for Tak and those hunters who have been hunting the blue foot for a couple years. Do they can grow on the exact same log for many years? Or the exact location?

In my experience they grow in the same area and similar habitats most years, but do NOT come back on the same log very often. They prefer a specific age/state of decay on logs, and it’s usually in the later stages of decomposition just before they start to break apart or get soggy. I have better luck finding them in the surrounding area mixed with leaf litter but it is much more difficult to spot them because they are so small and blend in well. They also require high humidity and usually only have one flush per year.
After hunting for several years here they almost always appear during the same month or time frame. Mid to late August is prime time for my habitats. As long as we get good rain during the right period I can usually find a few scattered around the beech stands nearby. I spend most of the year just searching for potential habitats and then have a small window to go back scan for the tiny little things.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: D_T.eonanacatl] 1
#26885603 - 08/17/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Someone posted a great guide recently on this particular species and I can't find it.
edit: Here's the link https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=3&Number=26154772&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
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Edited by Doc9151 (08/17/20 07:24 PM)
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#26885639 - 08/17/20 07:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hemlocks have been a common sighting near caerulipes for years. They grow directly off the hardwoods but something about hemlock does seem to help regulate their preferred habitat. I guess hemlock is so common in the forests around me that I never took the time to notice. Thanks for sharing this guide!
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: D_T.eonanacatl] 1
#26886253 - 08/18/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi guys
Thanks for the answer DT and for the guide Doc. I went hunting yesterday august 17th on the same slope as last year. After maybe 1h30 Hunting Ive been Lucky enough to finally find the nest.

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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Quebecybin]
#26886294 - 08/18/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Beautiful finds
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Quebecybin]
#26886972 - 08/18/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn I'm jealous
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26887081 - 08/18/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow brotha
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: leschampignons]
#26941207 - 09/17/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didnt really drop any significant spore print, as Id said I think I caught em too late. Going up there again after the rains come through, hopefully we'll have some more, or luckily some gymns! Oh and sorry for ghosting for a bit, Ive only had a handful of finds lately bit I dont believe any are active.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Doc9151]
#26941214 - 09/17/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you kind sir, very much appreciated. I need more info on general mushroom hunting, kinda green to this yet
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Quebecybin]
#26941218 - 09/17/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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WOW I hope I havent missed the last of the season... These are spectacular!!!
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Allium]
#26941304 - 09/17/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Allium said: You know I thought that they didn't quite look like ovoids but, P. caerulipes is so rare that I failed to mention that it could be that as well.
Are the two related? Because they look so similar in appearance.
They aren't closely related - ovoideocystidiata is close to P. cubensis and P. caerulipes is close to P. pelluclosa, P. fimetaria, P. baeocystis and P. semilanceata.
Psilocybe aztecorum/quebecensis also was probably just spotted in northern Pennsylvania, I have material on the way to verify this.
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#26948884 - 09/22/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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These relationships are so interesting Alan. I thought ovoids being wood lovers wouldn’t be close to cubensis. I wish to find more information on how mushrooms are related to one another. I’m sure this a noob question but what am I looking for?
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Re: Unknown bluing mushrooms from NW Pennsylvania [Re: SocalJosh]
#26949618 - 09/22/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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SocalJosh said: These relationships are so interesting Alan. I thought ovoids being wood lovers wouldn’t be close to cubensis. I wish to find more information on how mushrooms are related to one another. I’m sure this a noob question but what am I looking for?
That's a pretty broad question, but maybe check out https://www.facebook.com/groups/FungalSequencing
Wood lovers aren't all related, it's a trait scattered around the genus.
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