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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 2
#26866694 - 08/06/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well guess what.. Half my fucking labs were critical!!!
Tox negative for all drugs besides cannabis I am a legal card holder!!
Blood:
Vitamin B1 critical Bilirubin 1.4mg/dl high Potassium 3.2 (critical) INR (critical) PT (13.4 seconds) critical RDW-SD Critical
Urine analysis::
Ketones (80) Abnormal Protein (30) Abnormal
Urine analysis: (this is by far the most damning evidence. I obviously had an infection) Blood, White blood cells, mucus *the puss!* and of course bacteria!!! Lawyers are fucking scum they are saying I need to have been permanently disabled from this what about PTSD and not trust doctors with my life anymore. I came out sick as FUCK!
WBC (6-10) abnormal RBC 11-20 Abnormal Mucus Present Abnormal Bactera FEW Abnormal
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26866698 - 08/06/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday ahead of President Trump's visit to the state.
DeWine was tested as part of the required protocol before meeting Trump at the airport in Cleveland.
The governor will return to Columbus and plans to quarantine at his home for 14 days, his office said..." https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/510875-ohio-governor-tests-positive-for-covid-19
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Gorlax] 2
#26866703 - 08/06/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Didn’t you have a fever, feel weird, and lose consciousness multiple times before someone had to find you unconscious and then bring you to the hospital? You were disorientated to say the least...I’m wondering if you can really even properly recollect what happened to you. I wouldn’t be able to.
You were ill from who knows what, and on top of that if youve been taking Kratom & cannabis everyday for a while and then I presume you were cut off upon hospitalization and in there for more than 48 hrs you were probably also in withdrawals, and you likely had the infection before you entered the hospital. Likely explanation is they saved your life and it was not comfortable - and it was frightening bc you were all out of it from x,y, & z and have no idea what actually happened. My best guess 
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Of course your labs were bad, gorlax. You clearly had kidney failure. Looks like you may have also had some liver failure going on. Thats why they kept you there. To treat you.
Based on my interpretation of the events you posted, it sounds like you had neurogenic bladder which led to kidney infection and dilutional hyponatremia which precipitated seizures and confusion.
But again it is hard to figure out what was going by sifting through only your intepretation of events
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pirate-blues said: https://www.kwtx.com/2020/08/05/texas-school-superintendent-diagnosed-with-covid-19-dies/
Worried about my SIL. She's a special ed teacher in her early 30's, healthy weight no underlying conditions, etc., but my nephew has been in and out of the pediatric ICU and a pediatric hospital all summer for catastrophic epilepsy. The sort where the best doctors in the world are shrugging their shoulders and saying that if keto doesn't work for controlling them, all they can do after that is study and research him. He's 2. Exactly the kind of child that's especially at risk.
Not a light decision to close schools but another thing to consider is that the children my SIL teach are special needs. How is it safe for them to be back there?

Nightmare.
I know school is the only place where some kids can get 2/3 of their daily meals. I know it's catastrophic to shut schools - there has to be a way to both help children in need without opening up school with no real actual precautions for everyone as normal, with some masks thrown in as theater. But this is not safe. This is not safe. Jesus christ. Kids already have died and more kids are going to.
I know the pain, my brothers son has 40% brain function, palsy,downs and more complicated diagnoses but bottom line is right now he's incredibly vulnerable and he needs a life saving brain surgery he can't get because morons against masks are perpetuating. It's terrifying. As I've mentioned before literally all my blood relatives are high risk in one way or another so am I beyond worried about that picture you showed because it illustrates political sacrificing of children. Fun fact the girl who took that picture was suspended for 5 days and the principle issued a statement over the PA saying any student that posts anything "negative" about the school in regards to solid they will be disciplined.
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That's such a shitty move to suspend her. On the plus side though she'll probably be the next gofundme millionaire
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26867048 - 08/06/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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When hospitals are paid $14,000 per positive covid19 test result by the feds, How can you trust the numbers or anything else they are saying?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151] 2
#26867053 - 08/06/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't tell me that your medical institutions are now being patially funded by the government....i mean there goes any credibility they had right?
What is this world coming too.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pineninja]
#26867062 - 08/06/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc9151
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: pineninja] 1
#26867065 - 08/06/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is not what I'm saying, what I am saying is that it opens up to door to mass corruption and don't try and tell me that the medical community is above corruption because we both know that isn't true. Medicine today is all about profit, not saving lives.
edit: Like I said, what incentive do they have to be honest??? They have $14,000 for each fudged result
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151]
#26867074 - 08/06/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: When hospitals are paid $14,000 per positive covid19 test result by the feds, How can you trust the numbers or anything else they are saying?
Doctors and nurses are the ones doing the testing and reporting, not the execs and shareholders who actually see a benefit from financial profits. Medical professionals are not risking their licenses and fraud charges en masse to fulfill some diabolical scheme. And through looking at all-cause mortality rates, the effects of COVID are remarkably easy to verify.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151]
#26867081 - 08/06/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is what your saying.
Changing the way the words are pieced together doesn't shift the premise.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26867089 - 08/06/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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feevers said:
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Doc9151 said: When hospitals are paid $14,000 per positive covid19 test result by the feds, How can you trust the numbers or anything else they are saying?
Doctors and nurses are the ones doing the testing and reporting, not the execs and shareholders who actually see a benefit from financial profits. Medical professionals are not risking their licenses and fraud charges en masse to fulfill some diabolical scheme. And through looking at all-cause mortality rates, the effects of COVID are remarkably easy to verify.
dude, that's a totally idiotic thing to say, I am a physician, I'm not an administrator. administrators handle the money, it's the executives that run the hospital. Think!!!!!
I am talking about Hospitals not private practice.
Edit: If you think some doctors do not commit fraud, you are a fool. it happens every day when they fraudulently bill Medicare and medicaid stealing tax payers dollars and that's in private practice hospitals steal on a much much larger scale
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151] 2
#26867099 - 08/06/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said:
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feevers said:
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Doc9151 said: When hospitals are paid $14,000 per positive covid19 test result by the feds, How can you trust the numbers or anything else they are saying?
Doctors and nurses are the ones doing the testing and reporting, not the execs and shareholders who actually see a benefit from financial profits. Medical professionals are not risking their licenses and fraud charges en masse to fulfill some diabolical scheme. And through looking at all-cause mortality rates, the effects of COVID are remarkably easy to verify.
dude, that's a totally idiotic thing to say, I am a physician, I'm not an administrator. administrators handle the money, it's the executives that run the hospital. Think!!!!!
I am talking about Hospitals not private practice.
If you're a physician you should be aware that there are about a thousand ways you can commit fraud for extra profits and milk medicare/insurance with each patient you see. Why don't you?
And why don''t you address my full post (all cause mortality) instead of calling something idiodic.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151] 2
#26867117 - 08/06/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: Edit: If you think some doctors do not commit fraud, you are a fool. it happens every day when they fraudulently bill Medicare and medicaid stealing tax payers dollars and that's in private practice hospitals steal on a much much larger scale
Yes, I've worked in hospitals. We get fired if caught commiting fraud and have no incentive to do so, other than some therapists with high productivity quotas. The admins aren't the ones clicking boxes in EPIC.
If you're saying it's the admins doing it, don't you think it's a little strange that no nurse or doctor has said "Hey, the report says we have 20 covid patients and we only have 2".
Sure, every now and then the system will be abused and some hopsitals will be worse than others, but when excess deaths are far surpassing covid deaths, you may want a refund on that medical degree if you still think the fraud numbers are statistically significant.
Edited by feevers (08/06/20 07:34 PM)
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151] 1
#26867131 - 08/06/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: That is not what I'm saying, what I am saying is that it opens up to door to mass corruption and don't try and tell me that the medical community is above corruption because we both know that isn't true. Medicine today is all about profit, not saving lives.
edit: Like I said, what incentive do they have to be honest??? They have $14,000 for each fudged result
Uh, there are plenty of not for profit hospitals. There is even one in town here run by the shriners that doesnt charge patients a dime
Even in for profit hospitals, medical care involves teams of people. Any one of those people can become an anonymous whistleblower if they suspect fraud. They literally teach you the whistleblowing process in school. I am not making this up
The amount medicare pays per patient is depending on the DRG. DRG based pay is how all treatment works, not just treatment with covid. If someone comes in with cellulitis, the insurance pays a set amount based on that drg. The job of a case manager is largely to ensure that cost of care does not exceed that amount. Ensuring this allows the hospital to remain functional by not going bankrupt. Caring for the average covid patient costs more than medicare pays for covid related drgs. The amount depends based on the treatment. Patients requiring ventilation get more. That is because you have to bring in RTs to treat them, and they stay more than twice as long as other patients, among other things.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26867169 - 08/06/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not talking about nonprofit hospitals, I'm talking about for profit institutions, but you're fooling yourself if you think nonprofits do not steal. You guys can think hospitals care about you all you want, but they only care about the bottom line. Ask yourself why a nonprofit CEO makes millions if they aren't there for the money.
I admit, I didn't read the original post, just sick and tired of hearing all the nonsense about this virus. Its all about the money
T9 answer your question about why I do not commit fraud, I'm not a criminal, I didn't get into medicine for money like 99% of my classmates. I served my country by providing my skills to my fellow Soldiers. Sailors. Marines, Airman and Guardsmen because I believe in paying my dues and serving others.
Yes. my statement was generalized a bit. but you can't just put names out there of everyone on the board of directors or name every shareholder. Hospitals in the U.S. are not for the people and someone living in a foreign country wouldn't understand what I mean unless of course they have similar systems in their country. I should have clarified American Hospitals and not lump them all together
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: feevers]
#26867186 - 08/06/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you're saying it's the admins doing it, don't you think it's a little strange that no nurse or doctor has said "Hey, the report says we have 20 covid patients and we only have 2".
Sure, every now and then the system will be abused and some hopsitals will be worse than others, but when excess deaths are far surpassing covid deaths, you may want a refund on that medical degree if you still think the fraud numbers are statistically significant.
Don't you understand that its not about how many are in the actual hospital but based on positive lab results
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151]
#26867191 - 08/06/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, for profit hospitals want to make money. Right now, they arent making money. They are losing money. This is simply a fact. I know many people who work in for profit hospitals. They have major paycuts, limited PPE, less drug availability, etc all because they are far into the red right now ad a result of the fact that it costs more money for them to care for covid patients than the government is paying. This is why for profit hospitals in mcallen texas simply refused to sccept covid patients. They estimated that they would have to cut elective surgeries which would bankrupt them. So patients there ended up in a filthy makeshift covid ward in a repurposed hospice unit. They could get away with it bc most patients were undocumented immigrants. That shit is fucked, but for profit hospitals who are accepting patients risk far greater liability by committing fraud.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Doc9151] 3
#26867195 - 08/06/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc9151 Don't you understand that its not about how many are in the actual hospital but based on positive lab results
this is totally false. The patient has to be admitted for treatment
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