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p9hu7 said: I've had slow colonization with non supplemented sawdust in large volume containers like 5 gal buckets, I just thought it must be inferior sub selection and never gave it a second go around.
What's your harvest from a sawdust bucket? I ultimately used my partially colonized bucket for spawn in an outdoor oyster bed so I didn't get to find out.
The trick with buckets (or ANY very large substrate), is you have to actually reduce the water content as you go up in size, not just scale up equally with the same ratio. Heavier substrates are more affected by gravity and the water will accumulate in the lower parts more.
So I had to keep reducing my water until I finally got it right. I never weighed harvests so I couldn't tell ya, I just liked buckets for the ease and fun of doing them!
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Re: Back to the roots kit [Re: Forrester]
#26866528 - 08/06/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah that was my problem, I applied the same water to HWFP ratio for 5lb blocks to the 5 gal bucket
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: https://alohamedicinals.com/organic-grain-spawn/
7.50 for blue oyster 2.5lb colonized spawn ? Jeez haha I don’t want to be that lazy but
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Re: Back to the roots kit [Re: CrashTest]
#26866651 - 08/06/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's very expensive considering they/you pay less than that for a 50lb bag of grain. That lead time though, 3-4 weeks plus shipping. Postal service is so fucked right now, your spawn will be getting fumbled around in the heat for who know's how long.
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Haha that’s very true man,I ordered 24 half pint jars they took 2 weeks and were 50% smashed when they arrived
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p9hu7 said: That's very expensive considering they/you pay less than that for a 50lb bag of grain. That lead time though, 3-4 weeks plus shipping. Postal service is so fucked right now, your spawn will be getting fumbled around in the heat for who know's how long.
You have to have something to start with. Unless you know of some magical way to get a monoculture. Sure someone may give you a dish, but then you never know what you are getting. I would rather pay a little and know what I got. Once you have the grain then make your own master slants and spawn. Aloha Elma is awesome.
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Re: Back to the roots kit [Re: CrashTest]
#26866782 - 08/06/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok I didnt know you were actually interested in getting a PC and starting your own grow. I thought you just wanted to try out a spawn block and see how you like the hobby. Otherwise I woulda said dont waste the money on it. But thats awesome man! Welcome to the worderful world oh home myco! You may have your own plan now but my personal fav way to go (as a small time hobbyist with a SAB and only grow enough to eat not sell) is to buy a syringe once a year. I get one syringe for like 12$ and it will last all year long if you propogate it into more LCs or Agar (it can potentially last forever but I like a fresh culture every year). Alot of ppl agree agar is best but I personally really like working with syringes. Its just sooo much easier to do needlework in a SAB than it is to fumble with dishes. I also just get super irritated when good agar chunks get stuck in the worst places inside your jars. You will find your own groove and what you like best, never stop experimenting and happy growing dude 🙂✌️
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p9hu7 said: That's very expensive considering they/you pay less than that for a 50lb bag of grain. That lead time though, 3-4 weeks plus shipping. Postal service is so fucked right now, your spawn will be getting fumbled around in the heat for who know's how long.
You have to have something to start with. Unless you know of some magical way to get a monoculture. Sure someone may give you a dish, but then you never know what you are getting. I would rather pay a little and know what I got. Once you have the grain then make your own master slants and spawn. Aloha Elma is awesome.
Any culture he receives from a vendor will be plenty good to start with. Purchasing grain spawn when you own your own presto is full retard and then some. He could purchase a culture from Aloha just as easily, compromise.
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I always had luck with LC syringes from vendors.
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Re: Back to the roots kit [Re: Forrester]
#26866849 - 08/06/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Same here, sporeworks has decent LC syringes which have always fruited well for me. I have cultures from all over and they're all perfectly suitable for small scale projects. It's certainly a different story when you're running a business, you want the best of the best phenos that have great colour, flavor, and vigor, that perfect culture that puts out.
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Yeah man I’m in love with everything myco so far. I got my PC in and I’m trying to sterilize my agar bottle but I don’t think my hot plate can get hot enough to heat the PC. The valve won’t pop up so I can vent and put the weight on haha. I have a stove but I’m trying to do everything in my room that is active related. But if I grow an edible species it can be a good cover for when I need to PC grain bags or jars or agar. I live with roommates who are chill but only my gf knows I’ve been growing actives.
I will def look into either buying a bag of grain and then I can propagate it on agar, or a syringe, but the grain bag might be cheaper and I can just toss a grain into a clean agar dish and clean it up
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Re: Back to the roots kit [Re: CrashTest]
#26866930 - 08/06/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whatever you think is best, I don't mean to sound pushy, just passionate. Now that you have all of the best info in hand you're able to make the best decision for you.
Gourmets are a great cover, nobody is going to be able to tell the difference between grains cooked for one species or the next, or even the mycelium of one species to the next. Tell everyone you're a gourmet mushroom farmer and they'll love it.
If you do decide on grain spawn go to Aloha like SHROOMSISAY01 suggested.
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Re: Back to the roots kit [Re: CrashTest]
#26867188 - 08/06/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hes right. Nobody will tell the difference! And neither will you, be sure to label your shit haha!
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Yes, be sure to label everything. Nothing like feeding your mom oyster mushroom and then she trips balls for 6 hours!!
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Hahaha that’s a fair point I really appreciate all of your guys’ tips. I think I might try a bag of colonized grain from the links shared in this post; I will look into purchasing a culture of some form In the near future but will weigh my options.
Then I think I can try to clean it up on agar and sterilize my own bags/jars and either do bags In a grow tent or buckets with grain jars. Once I get into a rhythm it will be easier going. I’m still starting out and just poured my first real petris tonight so we’ll see how it goes
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Re: Back to the roots kit [Re: CrashTest]
#26867291 - 08/06/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you buy grain there should be no cleanup. Just drop on agar and your next plates should be ready in about a week.
Here is the Aloha Elma which is probably my favorite oyster at the moment...

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