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birdeatingspider said: The (lack of) logic some subscribe to is beyond unsettling. Yes, shortage of empathy, but I suspect these are folks that have issues with abandonment and attachment. The distortion is a mental illness though, and I do not mean that to be insulting.
Look Hammy, by now you have dug in your heels and doubled down. So your mind will not be changed.
What I do feel is a learning opportunity for you, would be to reflect upon how flexible you are, how often do you compromise in relationships?
Wearing a mask will not take away your liberty. Quit focusing on material value and look at the big picture.
Ten years down the road, will you reflect on the brutal mandate to wear a mask for a few months, or the lives lost/forever impacted-
Oh and on that note- saying that you dont want to be punished for other peoples lifestyle choices is bullshit.
You must be super lucky to not have yourself or a family member with a chronic illness that developed due to no consequence of their own. Be grateful.
Actually, I do. My mom just got back home from having to travel out of state to care for her sister, my aunt, which has developed dementia. Was that her fault? Maybe?
And this logic you speak of. A story.
I passed a car that was driving slow in the far left lane (fast lane). As I was passing this slow person on the right, plenty of opportunity for him/her to have gotten over, I look over and see the driver wearing a mask.
Driving 70mph on an interstate, wearing a mask with no other passengers.
How's that for logic?
Oh, and just an hour ago, a lady got out of her car and was already wearing a mask as she walked, by her self, across a parking lot.
Like, is the air just completely saturated with Covid now?
Please, explain this 'logic'. Thoroughly please, because as everyone on here is saying I don't understand mask.
Why was this lady wearing a mask walking from her car to home depot, which by the way, removed mask policy for customers.
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/walmart-home-depot-cvs-and-others-will-still-serve-customers-who-refuse-to-wear-masks-despite-new-rules/
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] 3
#26866786 - 08/06/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Because she may have passed closely by someone as she coughed sneezed or talked.
Whilst in this case she wasn't near somebody, she couldn't be sure that she would be alone so she did the responsible thing and wore a mask.
Logically if you still to this point cannot fathom why she wore a mask I think its rational for you to just give up.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: pineninja]
#26866812 - 08/06/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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And the guy in the car?
What's his excuse for wearing a mask?
Oh, that's right, I passed him with my window down doing 75mph, he was protecting me, wasn't he.
Edit.
That's really the best you've got? She may have passed someone as she sneezed or talked.
Pathetic.
There was no one around until she got to the door, even then, it's the middle of the afternoon on a Thursday and it's slow.
She wears a mask for virtue signals.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead]
#26866822 - 08/06/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive seen people do their grocery shopping with their bike helmet attached. People forget shit.
Also if I were in between getting out the car a short distance from where I hopped in I'd leave the mask in situ...the less you fiddle with it on and off the more likely it is to be effective.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead]
#26866826 - 08/06/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your ability now in this unique time to garner and hold attention is not because you have a valid opinion it's because you are virtue signalling a potential danger to society....best you think on that for awhile.
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Edited by pineninja (08/06/20 04:59 PM)
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] 3
#26866831 - 08/06/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Out of everything in my post, even explicitly stating I wasnt trying to insult you- You gave me 0 rating because I called you Hammy?!
I figured you store food in your cheeks, like a hamster.
Seriously questioning if you are old enough to interact on this site. You cant stand that people are wearing masks in their own cars, but you expect to be accepted for not wearing a mask.. How backwards are you.
Get a fucking grip.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead]
#26866845 - 08/06/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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He saved your life.
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birdeatingspider said: Get a fucking grip.
Tell that to Germany.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53622797
You're naive if you believe mask work at stopping aerosol viral transmission.
Must not understand aerosols.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead]
#26866863 - 08/06/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A vapenado proves you wrong.
I can do this all day.
Those vapors, aerosol, eventually it dissipates until it's invisible, but you can still smell it.
And see that? Toms, fluroride free toothpaste.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] 2
#26866870 - 08/06/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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HamHead said: And the guy in the car?
What's his excuse for wearing a mask?
Oh, that's right, I passed him with my window down doing 75mph, he was protecting me, wasn't he.
Edit.
That's really the best you've got? She may have passed someone as she sneezed or talked.
Pathetic.
There was no one around until she got to the door, even then, it's the middle of the afternoon on a Thursday and it's slow.
She wears a mask for virtue signals.

I didn't read the full post history, and I hope I'm not stepping into a shit storm, but, Two things here: 1. I saw someone with a mask in a car too. We can't guess their motives. Maybe they just didn't take it off because it's so easy to wear! It's not a torture device. 2. Just after my mom quit smoking she said "I never realized you can smell the people smoking in the cars ahead of you ..." If you can smell smoke from the other car's cabin, you are receiving vapor from them.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: pineninja]
#26866915 - 08/06/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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pineninja said: Your ability now in this unique time to garner and hold attention is not because you have a valid opinion it's because you are virtue signalling a potential danger to society....best you think on that for awhile.
You have no clue what virtue signalling is.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: budmanman]
#26866923 - 08/06/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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budmanman said: He saved your life.
Saint HamHead : The Patron Saint of Masks
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: InfiniteDreams] 1
#26867019 - 08/06/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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InfiniteDreams said:
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pineninja said: Your ability now in this unique time to garner and hold attention is not because you have a valid opinion it's because you are virtue signalling a potential danger to society....best you think on that for awhile.
You have no clue what virtue signalling is.
Nah ahh you don't.
Perhaps I know it well enough to play with the concept.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] 1
#26867030 - 08/06/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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HamHead said:
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birdeatingspider said: The (lack of) logic some subscribe to is beyond unsettling. Yes, shortage of empathy, but I suspect these are folks that have issues with abandonment and attachment. The distortion is a mental illness though, and I do not mean that to be insulting.
Look Hammy, by now you have dug in your heels and doubled down. So your mind will not be changed.
What I do feel is a learning opportunity for you, would be to reflect upon how flexible you are, how often do you compromise in relationships?
Wearing a mask will not take away your liberty. Quit focusing on material value and look at the big picture.
Ten years down the road, will you reflect on the brutal mandate to wear a mask for a few months, or the lives lost/forever impacted-
Oh and on that note- saying that you dont want to be punished for other peoples lifestyle choices is bullshit.
You must be super lucky to not have yourself or a family member with a chronic illness that developed due to no consequence of their own. Be grateful.
Actually, I do. My mom just got back home from having to travel out of state to care for her sister, my aunt, which has developed dementia. Was that her fault? Maybe?
And this logic you speak of. A story.
I passed a car that was driving slow in the far left lane (fast lane). As I was passing this slow person on the right, plenty of opportunity for him/her to have gotten over, I look over and see the driver wearing a mask.
Driving 70mph on an interstate, wearing a mask with no other passengers.
How's that for logic?
Oh, and just an hour ago, a lady got out of her car and was already wearing a mask as she walked, by her self, across a parking lot.
Like, is the air just completely saturated with Covid now?
Please, explain this 'logic'. Thoroughly please, because as everyone on here is saying I don't understand mask.
Why was this lady wearing a mask walking from her car to home depot, which by the way, removed mask policy for customers.
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/walmart-home-depot-cvs-and-others-will-still-serve-customers-who-refuse-to-wear-masks-despite-new-rules/
Actually if you were following non infowars like science covid is extremely airborne in every practical sense. So to explain the lady with a mask on with no one around, aerosol particulates of the virus can be carried 30-60 feet and maybe she's been following this science Here's an expert on aerosol particulates,air quality and atmospheric chemistry, just one of almost 300 promininent doctors to endorse this.
https://www.uchealth.org/today/covid-19-and-airborne-aerosols-what-you-need-to-know/
The virus that causes COVID-19 may be more infectious than previously known through airborne aerosols, spurring an international group of 239 scientists to call for new warnings from the World Health Organization (WHO).
The scientists are concerned that people who are spending time in poorly ventilated indoor spaces like bars, restaurants, churches, salons, classrooms and crowded modes of public transit may not understand how important it is for them to wear masks so they can prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
The group of experts includes Jose-Luis Jimenez, a University of Colorado Boulder expert on aerosols, atmospheric chemistry and air quality. Jimenez has been working with the group that published their paper, “It is Time to Address Airborne Transmission of COVID-19” in the journal, Clinical Infectious Diseases.
Jose-Luis Jimenez, a professor at the University of Colorado Boulder.
“The one thing we would like the world to do is to take this seriously, but not to be frightened. We need to explain what is going on. This is not like measles (which is highly transmissible in airborne particles) but, it can go through the air. And that’s why we need to do things like wear masks,” Jimenez said.
The warning from Jimenez and his fellow scientists already has generated action. WHO leaders now have pledged to review their guidance on airborne transmission, a move that Jimenez praised.
“We are glad that WHO is moving towards acknowledging the accumulating evidence and may add aerosol transmission indoors to the likely modes of transmission,” Jimenez said after WHO leaders responded to the scientists’ plea. “This would allow people around the world to better protect themselves and fight the pandemic.”
Jimenez and the other scientists have been urging health leaders to recognize and more openly warn the public about airborne spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.
Staying safe from airborne COVID-19 particles
Avoid the 3 Cs:
Closed and poorly ventilated spacesCrowdsClose contact
Other safety measures:
Always wear masks indoors and in crowded spaces.Stay at least 6 feet away from people.Open windows or use HEPA filters to refresh indoor air.
“There is significant potential for inhalation exposure to viruses in microscopic respiratory aerosols (micro-droplets) at short to medium distances…and we are advocating for the use of preventive measures to mitigate this route of airborne transmission,” the scientists wrote.
“Studies…have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that viruses are released during exhalation, talking and coughing in micro-droplets small enough to remain aloft in the air and pose a risk of exposure at distances beyond 1 to 2 meters (or about 3 to 6.5 feet) from an infected individual,” the group said.
“Of course we need to do more research, but the evidence is overwhelming that this happens,” Jimenez said.
Earlier this summer, he also co-authored a paper about a super-spreader event in which 53 members of the Skagit Valley Chorale in Mount Vernon, Wash. became sick. Jimenez said it’s clear that the choir member who was sick could not have personally coughed or propelled the virus onto all the other choir members. Thus, the virus-containing aerosols, which would have stayed suspended in the poorly ventilated room, provide the only reasonable explanation for how so many people became sick. Jimenez and others calculated how the aerosols spread in the room.
“Transmission by the airborne route is likely,” Jimenez and the study co-authors wrote. “It is vital to identify features of cases such as this so as to better understand the factors that promote super-spreading events.”
Jimenez said there is less concern about transmission in well-ventilated facilities like hospitals with good ventilation systems, new buildings or large places like grocery stores that also have good ventilation systems. In addition, by the time patients who are infected with SARS-CoV-2 are sick enough to be hospitalized, the concentrations of viable virus in their respiratory tracts are lower, and thus they likely are spreading fewer virus particles into the air. Researchers believe that people who get COVID-19 are most infectious when they begin to show symptoms. And experts believe that the virus spreads easily when people cough, sneeze, speak loudly, breathe forcefully or sing and are in close contact with other people.
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If you were to actually read anything I post, you may have noticed that I haven't pulled a single source from infowars. If I have, please copy/paste it and I'll eat these words. I avoid it because I know how much controversy it draws.
And thanks so much for pulling that article in arguments for the lady walking alone with no one around, wearing a mask, from her car to a home depot, which no longer requires face coverings.
It says so much about her and why she should really be wearing a mask outside. Shoikd have whipped my mobile device out, caught some video and go viral with a Karen video.

Really says a lot about being outside.
You know, wind blows. Sometimes it gust.

Thanks for more evidence that wearing mask outside is pointless.
The scientists are concerned that people who are spending time in poorly ventilated indoor spaces like bars, restaurants, churches, salons, classrooms and crowded modes of public transit may not understand how important it is for them to wear masks so they can prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
Closed and poorly ventilated spacesCrowdsClose contact
Always wear masks indoors and in crowded spaces.Stay at least 6 feet away from people.Open windows or use HEPA filters to refresh indoor air.
“There is significant potential for inhalation exposure to viruses in microscopic respiratory aerosols (micro-droplets) at short to medium distances…and we are advocating for the use of preventive measures to mitigate this route of airborne transmission,” the scientists wrote.
“Studies…have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that viruses are released during exhalation, talking and coughing in micro-droplets small enough to remain aloft in the air and pose a risk of exposure at distances beyond 1 to 2 meters (or about 3 to 6.5 feet) from an infected individual,” the group said.
“Of course we need to do more research, but the evidence is overwhelming that this happens,” Jimenez said.
Thus, the virus-containing aerosols, which would have stayed suspended in the poorly ventilated room, provide the only reasonable explanation for how so many people became sick. Jimenez and others calculated how the aerosols spread in the room.
In the room.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead] 1
#26867385 - 08/06/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah your right I'm the crazy one for not denying scienece during a pandemic sure buddy . Ventilated spaces are better but that is just willfully ignorant to say it's safer with ventilated air so masks are useless that's harmful potentially deadly bullshit. You're no expert but across the world doctors and overwhelming amount of studies say masks work. Even Trump said it recently it's gotten so hard to deny. Yet you tout it as if you've been working all your life studying it. You spreading a message that if wrong, which you are wrong people like the doctor Trump touted that believes in alien DNA and demon sperm to just name a few are trying to change people's minds to not wear a mask which WILL lead to more pain,suffering,out of control numbers and no end in sight. No going back to normal.
We can obviously see by the 49 states that had to re-close their states because Icus were at or past capacity during a wave of packed bars,rallies,protests,solid parties and churches that opening without going through the proper phases and antimask sentiment has made us the only country in the world next to Brazil that didn't do what was nessicary to reduce the strain our hospitals and save thousands more lives or possibly hundreds of thousands of lives.
No matter what I post we will call it illegitimate so with you a lot of times it's not even a debate you're side is right and you're not willing to look at the rest of the world's evidence even if it saves lives which is sick
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Seriously_trippin said: you're not willing to look at the rest of the world's evidence even if it saves lives which is sick
That's funny.
Forget about HCQ then and nevermind thousands of people protesting against mask in Germany.

If we wanted lives saved, HCQ would be used.
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: HamHead]
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Are we wearing a gas mask when someone farts?
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Re: I am now being told I have to wear a mask. [Re: starfire_xes]
#26867427 - 08/06/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Are we wearing a gas mask when someone farts?
Silent, but deadly.
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#26867448 - 08/06/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"The Communists’ chief purpose is to destroy every form of independence—independent work, independent action, independent property, independent thought, an independent mind, or an independent man. Conformity, alikeness, servility, submission and obedience are necessary to establish a Communist slave-state.” – Ayn Rand
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