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Doc9151
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Psilocybe cubensis
#26866151 - 08/06/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Found a couple nice fat cubensis growing in a compost pile that has horse poo mixed in from cleaning out horse stalls. Notice the heavy spore deposits on the cap, don't let them go to waste. Gently scrape the spores off the cap and save them to inoculate your pasture. I do this a few different ways. 1. put spores in a spray bottle filled with water and use it the spray under poo patties that are either old or fresh, it doesn't matter because fresh manure won't hurt the spores, but the spores won't germinate until the poo has aged. If you don't want to touch the manure you can use a stick and poke a hole and then spray some spores into the hole and close it up. 2. Smear spores on the boots or shoes that you are hunting in and they will fall off as you are walking the field. 3. use your finger, poke a hole in the turd, dip finger into spores and rub inside the hole and then plug the opening.
I can tell you that doing this will drastically increase the yields in your hunting area, I have been doing this for decades and have seen fields that barely produce come alive and produce heavy flushes. Don't expect immediate results, it takes time for the sopres to germinate and reach the knotting stage, it may even be the following season before you start to see improvements but I have literally transformed pastures from little to no growth to being able to pick several pounds within 2yrs of working a pasture.
Hopefully, my data collection will help me to understand this organism better and I can find ways to really make things take off and give us a better understanding of the species but I need more participants from around the world to contribute.
on a side note, there was snail chowing down on one of these guys and it left behind some huge turds, I'm curious if they absorb the active indoles or if they pass them through their dung and whether it produces metabolite after passing through their gut.
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Doc9151]
#26866166 - 08/06/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I actually tried spraying a nice horse/cow pasture here before with spores, on lots of occasions, and it never worked. They grow in the state directly under me,and my conditions should be right, but I never once found any thing in that field besides a few cinctulus,and a bunch of coprionids and shit.
I'm sure it works though, but I reckon my climate just gets too cold in the winter for them to make it, even with us having zone 8 winters for the past few years.
Good finds though, they are loaded with spore deposits!
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Allium]
#26866186 - 08/06/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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where u at
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Doc9151]
#26866200 - 08/06/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Far south West Kentucky, close to the Tennessee border. Cubes grow in Tennessee, so I'm shocked that with our drenching humidity and mild winters with no snow that they don't grow here. It makes no darn sense!
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Allium]
#26866223 - 08/06/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah I think I have only seen cubensis in compost piles in Kentucky or maybe it was Tennessee
edit: I want to clarify that the compost piles are enriched with horse manure and not regular compost
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Edited by Doc9151 (08/06/20 11:03 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Doc9151]
#26866246 - 08/06/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not here man, it had to have been Tennessee. I have searched nearly every field in this area, and they just can not grow here.
There was a guy here many years back that found huge flushes of cubes in Missouri, but I think that he put some spent cakes in the manure plies, and pretended like they grew there naturally.
Nomad was his username, now I remember.
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Allium]
#26866276 - 08/06/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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it was posted on this site in the past few months, wish I could remember where, but it wasn't in a field, only seen them in compost and that's probably because the compost generates enough heat through decomposition (in winter)to keep the mycelium happy and thriving. I find huge flushes in the middle of winter only on compost piles.
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Edited by Doc9151 (08/06/20 11:21 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Doc9151]
#26866306 - 08/06/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you're sure that it was Tennessee or Kentucky?
I lived in on the panhandle of Florida for over 10 years, and I used to hunt Cubes in the coldest parts of the winter. My buddies called me crazy for going out, but I wold bring back cubes with temps in the mid 40's, rain provided.
They ere also found straight from the manure, and never compost piles, go figure.
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Allium]
#26866425 - 08/06/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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my buddies here have been using spore water lately, old shroomerites who used it in 2011-15 are now just starting to make up, even if its been rechipped
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Joust]
#26866497 - 08/06/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure it was On the border of Kentucky and Tennessee, seems like I even saw one from Arkansas but it was only on compost piles with manure. It's bugging me that I can't think of where the thread is at, thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it
edit: When I make spore water, its heavily loaded, probably more than necessary but I get an abundance of them and feel better returning them to nature. I have also put them in the water trough for both horses and cows so they are already premixed with manure once deposited in the field but I only do that with permission.
Never,never, put anything into someone's feed or water troughs without asking first or you risk serious consequences. Especially if something were to happen to one or more animals and you are caught, that can lead to serious jail time, not to mention the ass whoopin you might get from the owners.
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Edited by Doc9151 (08/06/20 01:36 PM)
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Doc9151]
#26866549 - 08/06/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Doc9151 said: I'm pretty sure it was On the border of Kentucky and Tennessee, seems like I even saw one from Arkansas but it was only on compost piles with manure. It's bugging me that I can't think of where the thread is at, thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it
edit: When I make spore water, its heavily loaded, probably more than necessary but I get an abundance of them and feel better returning them to nature. I have also put them in the water trough for both horses and cows so they are already premixed with manure once deposited in the field but I only do that with permission.
Never,never, put anything into someone's feed or water troughs without asking first or you risk serious consequences. Especially if something were to happen to one or more animals and you are caught, that can lead to serious jail time, not to mention the ass whoopin you might get from the owners.
Thats why i normally just spread them back on the hay bales they got sitting around the edges for extra feed
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Doc9151
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I try to help them out whenever I can, if it's a species that I really like, I've gone as far as taking time and care to hang them off the ground several feet to help spores disperse easier in the wind.
I have all kinds of Boletaceae & gilled mushrooms in the yard now that weren't there before, just from tossing out old specimens after I'm done looking at them and have had my use of them.
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Doc9151]
#26866664 - 08/06/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Doc9151 said: I'm pretty sure it was On the border of Kentucky and Tennessee, seems like I even saw one from Arkansas but it was only on compost piles with manure. It's bugging me that I can't think of where the thread is at, thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it
edit: When I make spore water, its heavily loaded, probably more than necessary but I get an abundance of them and feel better returning them to nature. I have also put them in the water trough for both horses and cows so they are already premixed with manure once deposited in the field but I only do that with permission.
Never,never, put anything into someone's feed or water troughs without asking first or you risk serious consequences. Especially if something were to happen to one or more animals and you are caught, that can lead to serious jail time, not to mention the ass whoopin you might get from the owners.
Well, I've always known them to grow in Arkansas, right near the Conway area, and Tennessee, near Memphis, but never Kentucky.
Wish that you could find that post.
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis *DELETED* [Re: Allium]
#26867246 - 08/06/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Allium
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That is bad ass but I know they just wont grow here, sadly,and even if I did mange to get them going, they wouldn't survive the winter and fruit the following year.
Memphis is grow zone 8A and I'm 7A it's just too cold here, or they would grow here already.
I believe Cubensis will only survive in grow zone 8 and above this is why they have never been found in my state, or any state above Tennessee.
Thanks for looking out though
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis [Re: Allium]
#26867292 - 08/06/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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no worries, cheers
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